When you have to suppress yourself to be friends

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I have an online friend for about 1 1/2 years. We have had some great moments during this time, but generally I started to feel very unhappy and no longer wanted to reach out to them. The main point being is that I was suppressing myself and conforming to them. The reason was because it hurt too much to be rejected all the time. My friend is very different than I am. They are quite closed in share a little; write a little. For instance they would write one sentence about something and that's pretty much all. They ever, if rarely, ask me about myself, and if they do it's always on a shallow subject level. They tell me that I can write about/share/complain about whatever I want, that's it's not problem for them, but most often if not all of the time, they never respond to my comments. It's like I never said anything. I used to ask them questions, maybe 1, 2 at the most, to show my interest in them as a friend, it was sincere since I am curious to learn/know more about them. I would say about 95% + of the time, the don't answer my question. I find it VER rude, personally, and it makes me feel very stupid when my question isn't answered; I feel like a fool.. This has gone on more or less since i have been their friend, however, they were much better in the beginning, and it seemed to drop off after 4- 5 months, or so.

During this time i have not been shy to tell them several times that we are very different communicators. I am very open and they are very closed. I am very curious about them and they don't demonstrate much curiosity or interest in/ about me. I have expressed as well that they don't write enough to keep the relationship going, as I can't be the only one to keep it going but nevertheless, am I really, if they don't respond to me.. It feels very much like talking to a wall. However, having said that, they have demonstrated at various times they do appreciate me and they do like me. .. at one point saying that I made them happy. I'm not sure... sometimes I 'feel' this person is very manipulative. and they are laughing behind my back. I don't know if it is true or not, but sometimes I think they are a sick person.

Recently things came to a head where I asked them some questions about their faith, when they prompted me that they wanted to friendly debate something. I agreed and when I did, they backed down and didn't answer any of my questions. They instead wrote about things that never made sense, and they gloated that they were so blessed in knowing the knowledge they did, even though they could not share it with me.

I ended up leaving the friendship. I told them again before I left that we were very different communicators, that they never answered my questions (and I asked 2-3 times) and that I didn't think there was a fix for it. What exacerbate the problem for me, is that they didn't even try to have a conversation about that - maybe by explaining why they were the way they were, or trying to dispel any wrong impressions I may have.. This all so that I could gain an understanding, at the very least. But no, they never did at all, and this just verifies the lack of connection this produces.

My point in writing is to get it off my chest because sometimes writing releases or gives new insight, but I just feel so darn bad for leaving them.
It's not an easy thing these days to have and acquire friends, and I am not a person who lets go easily. I am a very loyal person, almost to the end. H However, if I feel I am abused, I eventually have enough. But having said that as Christians, shouldn't we be patient and long suffering and shouldn't we bear each others burdens. None of us is perfect and each of us have many flaws.. It's hard to know what to do.. I am curious to know what others would do in my situation. Thank you in Advance, and Happy Easter!
 

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Based on what you have written in the OP - I would say...

Too many red flags - especially this:

They instead wrote about things that never made sense, and they gloated that they were so blessed in knowing the knowledge they did, even though they could not share it with me.

I think you probably did the right thing by breaking it off.

Don't feel bad.
 
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Based on what you have written in the OP - I would say...

Too many red flags - especially this:




I think you probably did the right thing by breaking it off.

Don't feel bad.
Thank you Gary, I really appreciate your reply.. I do.

What was it about that comment that especially called out to you as a red flag? As a backstory my friend is a Christian, and they attend a small church where they teach a very rare doctrine, that is heretical. It seems very cultish to me. I asked them a few questions most of them were yes/no answers, and they couldn't answer them. This was after they told me that they were the ones who came up with the interpretations themselves and then said how blessed they were that they knew how to rightly divide the Word. In the next reply they tried to give me verses and descriptions but didn't answer the questions.. It was kinda shocking but it had no relevance to my questions at all. They then asked me if maybe I wasn't saved.. I guess because I said their teachings were heretical based on that I found some answers on Google. They then said that if I would go on skype with them and the pastor (their brother(s) in the church they would answer and then later sent me a video of their brother preaching. I refused, and said that I didn't want to be indoctrinated, I just wanted to basically understand their doctrinal beliefs.
 

Lynx

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Howdy beammeup and welcome to the forum. (Unfortunately there's no intelligent life here either.) :p

You may have been trying to get a cup of ant milk. In other words, you may have been trying to get something out of the online conversation that was not there to get. Some people are not effusively profuse in any kind of communication. You may have been looking for a deep, meaningful connection that was just not there to find.
 
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Howdy beammeup and welcome to the forum. (Unfortunately there's no intelligent life here either.) :p

You may have been trying to get a cup of ant milk. In other words, you may have been trying to get something out of the online conversation that was not there to get. Some people are not effusively profuse in any kind of communication. You may have been looking for a deep, meaningful connection that was just not there to find.
LOL to your first sentence :) Yes that's true I do look for deep meaningful conversation. .. I don't mind shallow talk, it can be silly and fun, and it's good to have to balance heaviness out. There's a time and place for everything. I have had some really good friendships with people online in the past, but each time they failed because the other person wasn't a Christian, and they were always offended when I brought up my faith, even though I respected their New Age or Hindu faith, or whatever they believed.

For this past one, we are just not compatible. .. If my friend would have answered my questions, and was interested in my comments, I would still have stuck around no matter our differences, but I just think that is really rude. I would never do that. I don't want to be treated like that, it's very hurtful. because then they would reply with something about themselves, like I had never asked a question.. . I then ended up not asking any questions at all, and writing very little - I was suppressing myself, and I became very unhappy. I guess at least I did tell them several times in a kind way, but they never really responded to help me understand them.

It's too bad it's so hard to find friends. I remember when I was in elementary and highschool, I had so many friends it was so much fun, and now as an adult it's so hard to find friends. .especially now with the covid.
 
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I have an online friend for about 1 1/2 years. We have had some great moments during this time, but generally I started to feel very unhappy and no longer wanted to reach out to them. The main point being is that I was suppressing myself and conforming to them. The reason was because it hurt too much to be rejected all the time. My friend is very different than I am. They are quite closed in share a little; write a little. For instance they would write one sentence about something and that's pretty much all. They ever, if rarely, ask me about myself, and if they do it's always on a shallow subject level. They tell me that I can write about/share/complain about whatever I want, that's it's not problem for them, but most often if not all of the time, they never respond to my comments. It's like I never said anything. I used to ask them questions, maybe 1, 2 at the most, to show my interest in them as a friend, it was sincere since I am curious to learn/know more about them. I would say about 95% + of the time, the don't answer my question. I find it VER rude, personally, and it makes me feel very stupid when my question isn't answered; I feel like a fool.. This has gone on more or less since i have been their friend, however, they were much better in the beginning, and it seemed to drop off after 4- 5 months, or so.

During this time i have not been shy to tell them several times that we are very different communicators. I am very open and they are very closed. I am very curious about them and they don't demonstrate much curiosity or interest in/ about me. I have expressed as well that they don't write enough to keep the relationship going, as I can't be the only one to keep it going but nevertheless, am I really, if they don't respond to me.. It feels very much like talking to a wall. However, having said that, they have demonstrated at various times they do appreciate me and they do like me. .. at one point saying that I made them happy. I'm not sure... sometimes I 'feel' this person is very manipulative. and they are laughing behind my back. I don't know if it is true or not, but sometimes I think they are a sick person.

Recently things came to a head where I asked them some questions about their faith, when they prompted me that they wanted to friendly debate something. I agreed and when I did, they backed down and didn't answer any of my questions. They instead wrote about things that never made sense, and they gloated that they were so blessed in knowing the knowledge they did, even though they could not share it with me.

I ended up leaving the friendship. I told them again before I left that we were very different communicators, that they never answered my questions (and I asked 2-3 times) and that I didn't think there was a fix for it. What exacerbate the problem for me, is that they didn't even try to have a conversation about that - maybe by explaining why they were the way they were, or trying to dispel any wrong impressions I may have.. This all so that I could gain an understanding, at the very least. But no, they never did at all, and this just verifies the lack of connection this produces.

My point in writing is to get it off my chest because sometimes writing releases or gives new insight, but I just feel so darn bad for leaving them.
It's not an easy thing these days to have and acquire friends, and I am not a person who lets go easily. I am a very loyal person, almost to the end. H However, if I feel I am abused, I eventually have enough. But having said that as Christians, shouldn't we be patient and long suffering and shouldn't we bear each others burdens. None of us is perfect and each of us have many flaws.. It's hard to know what to do.. I am curious to know what others would do in my situation. Thank you in Advance, and Happy Easter!
All that I can say is that you sound like my Siamese twin...we must have been separated at birth.

My whole life has been like what you just described.

By nature, I'm very deep, open, and honest , and it's been an extremely rare experience when I've found someone who was interested in more than just a shallow conversation.

I'm sorry for what you went through, but I honestly feel like you made the right decision in breaking off the "friendship". I put "friendship" in quotes because it really sounds like it was a one-sided relationship, and that's not what friendship truly is.
 
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I have an online friend for about 1 1/2 years. We have had some great moments during this time, but generally I started to feel very unhappy and no longer wanted to reach out to them. The main point being is that I was suppressing myself and conforming to them. The reason was because it hurt too much to be rejected all the time. My friend is very different than I am. They are quite closed in share a little; write a little. For instance they would write one sentence about something and that's pretty much all. They ever, if rarely, ask me about myself, and if they do it's always on a shallow subject level. They tell me that I can write about/share/complain about whatever I want, that's it's not problem for them, but most often if not all of the time, they never respond to my comments. It's like I never said anything. I used to ask them questions, maybe 1, 2 at the most, to show my interest in them as a friend, it was sincere since I am curious to learn/know more about them. I would say about 95% + of the time, the don't answer my question. I find it VER rude, personally, and it makes me feel very stupid when my question isn't answered; I feel like a fool.. This has gone on more or less since i have been their friend, however, they were much better in the beginning, and it seemed to drop off after 4- 5 months, or so.

During this time i have not been shy to tell them several times that we are very different communicators. I am very open and they are very closed. I am very curious about them and they don't demonstrate much curiosity or interest in/ about me. I have expressed as well that they don't write enough to keep the relationship going, as I can't be the only one to keep it going but nevertheless, am I really, if they don't respond to me.. It feels very much like talking to a wall. However, having said that, they have demonstrated at various times they do appreciate me and they do like me. .. at one point saying that I made them happy. I'm not sure... sometimes I 'feel' this person is very manipulative. and they are laughing behind my back. I don't know if it is true or not, but sometimes I think they are a sick person.

Recently things came to a head where I asked them some questions about their faith, when they prompted me that they wanted to friendly debate something. I agreed and when I did, they backed down and didn't answer any of my questions. They instead wrote about things that never made sense, and they gloated that they were so blessed in knowing the knowledge they did, even though they could not share it with me.

I ended up leaving the friendship. I told them again before I left that we were very different communicators, that they never answered my questions (and I asked 2-3 times) and that I didn't think there was a fix for it. What exacerbate the problem for me, is that they didn't even try to have a conversation about that - maybe by explaining why they were the way they were, or trying to dispel any wrong impressions I may have.. This all so that I could gain an understanding, at the very least. But no, they never did at all, and this just verifies the lack of connection this produces.

My point in writing is to get it off my chest because sometimes writing releases or gives new insight, but I just feel so darn bad for leaving them.
It's not an easy thing these days to have and acquire friends, and I am not a person who lets go easily. I am a very loyal person, almost to the end. H However, if I feel I am abused, I eventually have enough. But having said that as Christians, shouldn't we be patient and long suffering and shouldn't we bear each others burdens. None of us is perfect and each of us have many flaws.. It's hard to know what to do.. I am curious to know what others would do in my situation. Thank you in Advance, and Happy Easter!
In that situation I would do exactly what you did, talk it out, and be upfront with what my expectations are going forward. I would want to rule out that it was a fluke and their behavior is just a symptom of something they're going through while giving them a chance to explain themselves.

If we came to an understanding that we have similar goals in the friendship then I would start looking for them to be forthcoming with more conversation.

If they teased me with privileged information then withheld it when I showed interest I would probably think they wanted to manipulate me. I would probably try to dig it out of them, but if they refused I think the dynamic of the friendship would change like how yours did.

There should be trust, respect, and sharing in a friendship and it sounds like you gave him chances to get involved and he decided not to.

I think you made the right choice.

I went through something similar to this lately. I made the same decision as you. I don't feel bad. It was better to just part ways.
 
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A relationship is meant to be reciprocal, not one sided. Sounds like you made the right decision.

















:)
Thank you Magenta:D:giggle: You make me feel really welcome! :giggle::giggle: Thank you for your analysis, I really appreciate it!
 

Lynx

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LOL to your first sentence :) Yes that's true I do look for deep meaningful conversation. .. I don't mind shallow talk, it can be silly and fun, and it's good to have to balance heaviness out. There's a time and place for everything. I have had some really good friendships with people online in the past, but each time they failed because the other person wasn't a Christian, and they were always offended when I brought up my faith, even though I respected their New Age or Hindu faith, or whatever they believed.

For this past one, we are just not compatible. .. If my friend would have answered my questions, and was interested in my comments, I would still have stuck around no matter our differences, but I just think that is really rude. I would never do that. I don't want to be treated like that, it's very hurtful. because then they would reply with something about themselves, like I had never asked a question.. . I then ended up not asking any questions at all, and writing very little - I was suppressing myself, and I became very unhappy. I guess at least I did tell them several times in a kind way, but they never really responded to help me understand them.

It's too bad it's so hard to find friends. I remember when I was in elementary and highschool, I had so many friends it was so much fun, and now as an adult it's so hard to find friends. .especially now with the covid.
Either take what is offered or move on. If all a friend wants to do is play online chess and not talk about anything EXCEPT chess, either play and talk chess or move on and find somebody else to talk to.

From what you already said, it seems like you chose move on. All I'm trying to say at this point is, be more philosophical about moving on. ;)
 
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All that I can say is that you sound like my Siamese twin...we must have been separated at birth.

My whole life has been like what you just described.

By nature, I'm very deep, open, and honest , and it's been an extremely rare experience when I've found someone who was interested in more than just a shallow conversation.

I'm sorry for what you went through, but I honestly feel like you made the right decision in breaking off the "friendship". I put "friendship" in quotes because it really sounds like it was a one-sided relationship, and that's not what friendship truly is.
Ha ha that's funny :):giggle: Siamese Twins :) It's so nice to finally meet you! :) I have been like this my whole life, too.. In fact, this is really crazy.. I recently read my diary when I was in Grade 7 and Grade 10, and I was shocked to read that a certain best friend that I had was not my best friend so much anymore because they were not open and honest with me.. It just hit me that I have been like that in craving deep connections since I was a child.. I really didn't remember that!

Thank you for your analysis and advice, I really appreciate it. It did feel to me, definitely, like it was one sided. I used to have these thoughts that they were laughing at me behind my back whenever they didn't answer my question, or when they told me I could freely write or complain as much as possible about something, that they liked it even, but then they never responded and instead replied with something shallow from themselves. It made me think that maybe I didn't know that person at all. ..
 
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In that situation I would do exactly what you did, talk it out, and be upfront with what my expectations are going forward. I would want to rule out that it was a fluke and their behavior is just a symptom of something they're going through while giving them a chance to explain themselves.

If we came to an understanding that we have similar goals in the friendship then I would start looking for them to be forthcoming with more conversation.

If they teased me with privileged information then withheld it when I showed interest I would probably think they wanted to manipulate me. I would probably try to dig it out of them, but if they refused I think the dynamic of the friendship would change like how yours did.

There should be trust, respect, and sharing in a friendship and it sounds like you gave him chances to get involved and he decided not to.

I think you made the right choice.

I went through something similar to this lately. I made the same decision as you. I don't feel bad. It was better to just part ways.
I said this in just the previous post to another person.. but you dont know how many times I had this thought or feeling or sense come over me that when they didn't answer a question, or when they didn't comment (when they told me to freely write and even complain to high heaven) and then they didn't respond at all like I had written nothing... that they were secretly laughing behind my back.. It felt like at times they would reel me in and we would have a good time, and then the next they would reel me out.. if that makes sense.. .? I had that sense over me so many times.. . There was one day not too long ago I shared some personal experience and it wasn't that much at all. They replied to me 2 days later, and asked me "So how are you doing????" They never responded to my previous comments that I shared with them. I think they are a chronic manipulator.. . Just recently when they couldn't answer my questions that they asked me to ask them... Their excuse was that they didn't want to write a 'novel'.. but of course it was an excuse because they really couldn't tell me.. I felt that was a put down to me... It had been a long time since I had written anything to them or asked them anything.. several months already I had stopped. So I think they were not honest with me, and that was one of the reasons I left because we arent incompatible then.

Thank you so much for your advice, I really appreciate it! it was very helpful!:):)
 

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Thank you Gary, I really appreciate your reply.. I do.

What was it about that comment that especially called out to you as a red flag? As a backstory my friend is a Christian, and they attend a small church where they teach a very rare doctrine, that is heretical. It seems very cultish to me. I asked them a few questions most of them were yes/no answers, and they couldn't answer them. This was after they told me that they were the ones who came up with the interpretations themselves and then said how blessed they were that they knew how to rightly divide the Word. In the next reply they tried to give me verses and descriptions but didn't answer the questions.. It was kinda shocking but it had no relevance to my questions at all. They then asked me if maybe I wasn't saved.. I guess because I said their teachings were heretical based on that I found some answers on Google. They then said that if I would go on skype with them and the pastor (their brother(s) in the church they would answer and then later sent me a video of their brother preaching. I refused, and said that I didn't want to be indoctrinated, I just wanted to basically understand their doctrinal beliefs.
Because of my knowledge of occult / esoteric things...

Also, and more to the point - as a rule - any 'knowledge' that someone is so 'blessed' to have - is worth sharing.

Simple as that.

Can you give any [more] specifics about their beliefs - especially, that which you find to be contradictory to the Bible?

What verses did they show you?

Do you have a link to the video?
 
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Ha ha that's funny :):giggle: Siamese Twins :) It's so nice to finally meet you! :) I have been like this my whole life, too.. In fact, this is really crazy.. I recently read my diary when I was in Grade 7 and Grade 10, and I was shocked to read that a certain best friend that I had was not my best friend so much anymore because they were not open and honest with me.. It just hit me that I have been like that in craving deep connections since I was a child.. I really didn't remember that!

Thank you for your analysis and advice, I really appreciate it. It did feel to me, definitely, like it was one sided. I used to have these thoughts that they were laughing at me behind my back whenever they didn't answer my question, or when they told me I could freely write or complain as much as possible about something, that they liked it even, but then they never responded and instead replied with something shallow from themselves. It made me think that maybe I didn't know that person at all. ..
Whatever you do, don't ever suppress yourself from being yourself.

I did that for much of my life, and I actually went through a period of time when I actually hated myself, but didn't know why.

After much prayer, the LORD revealed to me, in more ways than just one, that the reason why I hated myself was because I wasn't being myself.

I recently shared a poem here that I penned the day that I was finally set free.

You can read it here if you're interested:

https://christianchat.com/christian-poems-poetry/freedom-from-the-fear-of-man.197946/

More in line with the title of your thread, I remember one day when I was in church many years ago, shortly before I wrote that poem, and I recall crying out within my spirit for God to show me what was wrong with me. Just at that moment, someone stood up in the church and brought forth what I believe was a word of knowledge. Basically, the word was that there was someone there that night who was like a bottle of cologne with a strong scent (not like BO...lol), and that he was afraid to take the cap off because he was afraid that his personality would be too strong for others to bear. I knew instantly that I was that someone, and I'm no longer "bottled up".

Anyhow, I believe that you made the right choice, and I hope that you make some like-minded friends here.
 
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Because of my knowledge of occult / esoteric things...

Also, and more to the point - as a rule - any 'knowledge' that someone is so 'blessed' to have - is worth sharing.

Simple as that.

Can you give any [more] specifics about their beliefs - especially, that which you find to be contradictory to the Bible?

What verses did they show you?

Do you have a link to the video?
Their small church in which their brother(s) preach, believes in the 'Mid Acts Dispensationalism' doctrine. I googled it and it described it as "rare but growing.. " So they believe that only the books of Paul are valid for study and 'for us' (they believe in grace through faith alone salvation, which I agree). All other books in OT and NT are for Israel they say, and they are only for information purposes. They are not to be cross referenced, or studied for any benefit because they are 'not for us'.. This means that they do not consider any of the prophesies, including the book of Revelation as 'for us' or benefit to us, either. They believe that the Bride of Christ is Israel and not the Church. 'This is how they 'rightly divide the Word."

I was shocked that they wrote me in capital letters even, how blessed they were in knowing how to rightly dividing the Word, but yet could not explain what they believed, especially when they said the revelation for this doctrine came on their own. Their 1st excuse was that they didn't want to write me a novel.. and then suggested that I should go on Skype so that their brother can answer just some very simple questions I had about their beliefs.. yes/no.. I really didn't want more than that. I didn't want to be indoctrinated. I really feel they are brainwashed. .. they write notes from their Brother's bible studies, and sometimes sends them to me... and even before I knew all this information (I never really knew) I always got a sense that it was just that - just notes. I sensed they had no conviction...

I could send a video, but feel a little hesitant because of my disclosure here... I did some research, and looked up the main pastor of the church and he is listed on a few websites as teaching heresy.. so I feel like I was making a truthful assessment.

Thanks:)
 
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Whatever you do, don't ever suppress yourself from being yourself.

I did that for much of my life, and I actually went through a period of time when I actually hated myself, but didn't know why.

After much prayer, the LORD revealed to me, in more ways than just one, that the reason why I hated myself was because I wasn't being myself.

I recently shared a poem here that I penned the day that I was finally set free.

You can read it here if you're interested:

https://christianchat.com/christian-poems-poetry/freedom-from-the-fear-of-man.197946/

More in line with the title of your thread, I remember one day when I was in church many years ago, shortly before I wrote that poem, and I recall crying out within my spirit for God to show me what was wrong with me. Just at that moment, someone stood up in the church and brought forth what I believe was a word of knowledge. Basically, the word was that there was someone there that night who was like a bottle of cologne with a strong scent (not like BO...lol), and that he was afraid to take the cap off because he was afraid that his personality would be too strong for others to bear. I knew instantly that I was that someone, and I'm no longer "bottled up".

Anyhow, I believe that you made the right choice, and I hope that you make some like-minded friends here.
Well, I think we are really Siamese twins.. as I have struggled with the fear of man for most of my life. It has been the most prevalent fear that has kept me down, and it has hurt me the most in my life. I would gather to say, maybe.. that you are a gentle and sensitive soul? I would describe myself as a chameleon, too.. I can fit and form into whatever the other person I think expects from me.. i don't like conflict, and I too have been frightened by my own personality and it's suffocating to be like that. It's true, when I suppress I hate myself.. Yes, I started to hate myself with this friend.. I couldn't do it anymore, amidst the guilty feelings. I think that if one suppresses themselves somehow people sense it and take advantage of you, and I have had lots of that. .

Your poem is beautiful, I completely get you! It's so wonderful that God wants us to be ourselves and accepts us completely as ourselves, and that He wants to hear everything on our hearts and that He never tires.. . That is very healing. I find that I have gotten much better over the years, and the Word of God has been the primary reason, but I still struggle with it, even in some faint form. It's a learned behavior, I think, that becomes a habit - a way of coping.. I believe mine stems from childhood trauma. So much of who we are was formed in our early years.

Thank you for sharing, it was very helpful for me.. . and a reminder to never suppress myself again... that it's an alert signal that something is very wrong.. . I am so happy you were freed from this.. :):giggle:
 
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Either take what is offered or move on. If all a friend wants to do is play online chess and not talk about anything EXCEPT chess, either play and talk chess or move on and find somebody else to talk to.

From what you already said, it seems like you chose move on. All I'm trying to say at this point is, be more philosophical about moving on. ;)
Good point, I like your analogy with the chess game, and it makes perfect sense. It's a choice on whether I am willing to sacrifice, if it is worth it more to keep the friendship.. to just to have a friend at all.. . Yes, I feel encouraged by all of you, along with my own inner convictions that I should move on, and that it's ok, I can stop feeling bad about it. I just want to do the right thing.. I have been unhappy for more than 6 months, at least, suppressing myself and hating myself and I no longer can go back anymore. If my friend would have countered my complaints and we could have had a respectful and kind conversation to work it out, it could have saved the friendship, but they decided not to defend or share their views in order to address my concerns... So therefore, nothing will change.

Philosophical... I really like that and will do that. :)


Thank you again for helping me. :):)
 
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Well, I think we are really Siamese twins.. as I have struggled with the fear of man for most of my life. It has been the most prevalent fear that has kept me down, and it has hurt me the most in my life. I would gather to say, maybe.. that you are a gentle and sensitive soul? I would describe myself as a chameleon, too.. I can fit and form into whatever the other person I think expects from me.. i don't like conflict, and I too have been frightened by my own personality and it's suffocating to be like that. It's true, when I suppress I hate myself.. Yes, I started to hate myself with this friend.. I couldn't do it anymore, amidst the guilty feelings. I think that if one suppresses themselves somehow people sense it and take advantage of you, and I have had lots of that. .

Your poem is beautiful, I completely get you! It's so wonderful that God wants us to be ourselves and accepts us completely as ourselves, and that He wants to hear everything on our hearts and that He never tires.. . That is very healing. I find that I have gotten much better over the years, and the Word of God has been the primary reason, but I still struggle with it, even in some faint form. It's a learned behavior, I think, that becomes a habit - a way of coping.. I believe mine stems from childhood trauma. So much of who we are was formed in our early years.

Thank you for sharing, it was very helpful for me.. . and a reminder to never suppress myself again... that it's an alert signal that something is very wrong.. . I am so happy you were freed from this.. :):giggle:
I'm definitely a gentle and sensitive soul...although if you saw my posts in the Bible Discussion Forum, then you might think that I'm a sword-wielding maniac...lol.

I honestly don't like conflict either, but God had to do a serious number on me to get me to change in that department. Basically, he showed me years ago that I was a man-pleaser, as opposed to being a God-pleaser, and that if I truly loved people, then conflict was inevitable at times.

I totally agree with your comment that "so much of who we are was formed in our early years", but, at the same time, the "new birth" can change even that.

If I could leave you with one verse of scripture that totally revolutionized my life in relation to the fear of man, then it would most definitely be the following:

"Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:" (I Peter 2:23)

My problem used to be that my self-worth was determined on a horizontal plane. In other words, I cared way too much about what other people thought about me, and I basically became whatever I needed to become in order to fit in or be accepted.

Now?

Like Jesus, my focus is constantly turned upwards, or on a vertical plane, in that I care what God himself, the righteous judge, thinks about me.

It may not seem like that big of an adjustment, but it literally changed my entire life.

Anyhow, this thread is supposed to be about you, and I know where you're coming from.