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I wasn't "overlooking" it.
Bear in mind that I was emphasizing that v.31 does not say "from the four corners OF HEAVEN" (not that the verse makes no mention whatsoever of "the heavens" also, it does!<--but in THAT phrase [the full phrase at the end], it means "from the extremities" i.e. no place left out... not that the "TO" word is implying that's the "destination-location"--as in, "[they'll be] gathered 'FROM here TO Timbuktu'" is saying "gathered from EVERYWHERE," rather than its saying the "destination-location" is "Timbuktu". No. Not what it's conveying... but is what some are suggesting that it is...)
Bear in mind that I was emphasizing that v.31 does not say "from the four corners OF HEAVEN" (not that the verse makes no mention whatsoever of "the heavens" also, it does!<--but in THAT phrase [the full phrase at the end], it means "from the extremities" i.e. no place left out... not that the "TO" word is implying that's the "destination-location"--as in, "[they'll be] gathered 'FROM here TO Timbuktu'" is saying "gathered from EVERYWHERE," rather than its saying the "destination-location" is "Timbuktu". No. Not what it's conveying... but is what some are suggesting that it is...)
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God asked Noah to prepare an ark for the coming flood. Could God have taken Noah away? Yes, but God didn't and God used the work of Noah for multiple reasons. God didn't need an Ark to protect His people and animals but Noah still had to do all that work.
We need to do a great work to be ready and to prepare for the flood that is coming. God will protect His people but not by flashing them away.
Zec_13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
We need to do a great work to be ready and to prepare for the flood that is coming. God will protect His people but not by flashing them away.
Zec_13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
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Major, you present 12 points, and not one deals with the presented facts of the (FIRE) below, not one 
Once Again, What Are You Going To Do With All That Fire Seen Below In Scripture, "At The Second Coming" Of Jesus Christ, Pretend Like It Dosent Exist?
There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation.
This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ!
(Behold, I Make All Things New)
2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.
Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.
Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.
Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.
Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Once Again, What Are You Going To Do With All That Fire Seen Below In Scripture, "At The Second Coming" Of Jesus Christ, Pretend Like It Dosent Exist?
There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation.
This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ!
(Behold, I Make All Things New)
2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.
Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.
Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.
Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.
Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Agreed.
Consider:
--"last DAYS [plural]" (depending on context) can be referring to that which I had put in my Post #184 (like where it says in Hosea 5:14-6:3 - https://christianchat.com/threads/the-key-to-the-pre-trib-rapture.198174/post-4522873 - about the "after TWO DAYS" and "IN the THIRD DAY" from the time of His ascension... i.e. there are "THREE DAYS TOTAL" [i.e. 3000 yrs; aka the 7000 yrs total from Creation]--"last DAYS" = 3 "DAYS [PLURAL]" TOTAL) [caveat: I'm not suggesting EVERY reference to "last days [plural]" speaks of "all three" of these] ;
--"the last DAY [SINGULAR]" would be the LAST ^ of those THREE ^ (i.e. the 7th Millennium; aka the "sabbatismos" of Heb4:9), which (of course) INCLUDES the "millennium" (the MK age) just as you say (which MK is also a part of "the DOTL" [earthly-located] time period... i.e. MK=the "SUN of righteousness ARISE"/"reign... GLORIOUSLY"/"BLESSING" aspect... whereas "the DOTL" in its ENTIRETY also INCLUDES "the 7-yr trib" years... that is, the "DARK / DARKNESS / IN THE NIGHT [/JUDGMENTs] / NIGHT WATCHES" aspect AS WELL).
The phrases "The Last Day" ["-DAY [SINGULAR]"] and "The Day of the Lord" are NOT merely "a singular 24-hr day"... RIGHT!
Consider:
--"last DAYS [plural]" (depending on context) can be referring to that which I had put in my Post #184 (like where it says in Hosea 5:14-6:3 - https://christianchat.com/threads/the-key-to-the-pre-trib-rapture.198174/post-4522873 - about the "after TWO DAYS" and "IN the THIRD DAY" from the time of His ascension... i.e. there are "THREE DAYS TOTAL" [i.e. 3000 yrs; aka the 7000 yrs total from Creation]--"last DAYS" = 3 "DAYS [PLURAL]" TOTAL) [caveat: I'm not suggesting EVERY reference to "last days [plural]" speaks of "all three" of these] ;
--"the last DAY [SINGULAR]" would be the LAST ^ of those THREE ^ (i.e. the 7th Millennium; aka the "sabbatismos" of Heb4:9), which (of course) INCLUDES the "millennium" (the MK age) just as you say (which MK is also a part of "the DOTL" [earthly-located] time period... i.e. MK=the "SUN of righteousness ARISE"/"reign... GLORIOUSLY"/"BLESSING" aspect... whereas "the DOTL" in its ENTIRETY also INCLUDES "the 7-yr trib" years... that is, the "DARK / DARKNESS / IN THE NIGHT [/JUDGMENTs] / NIGHT WATCHES" aspect AS WELL).
The phrases "The Last Day" ["-DAY [SINGULAR]"] and "The Day of the Lord" are NOT merely "a singular 24-hr day"... RIGHT!
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The Remnant Of Israel
Micah 7:12-17KJV
12 In that day also he shall come even to thee from Assyria, and from the fortified cities, and from the fortress even to the river, and from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain.
13 Notwithstanding the land shall be desolate because of them that dwell therein, for the fruit of their doings.
14 Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old.
15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things.
16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf.
17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms of the earth: they shall be afraid of the Lord our God, and shall fear because of thee.
Micah 7:12-17KJV
12 In that day also he shall come even to thee from Assyria, and from the fortified cities, and from the fortress even to the river, and from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain.
13 Notwithstanding the land shall be desolate because of them that dwell therein, for the fruit of their doings.
14 Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old.
15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things.
16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf.
17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms of the earth: they shall be afraid of the Lord our God, and shall fear because of thee.
Consider the following:
2Th1:7-8 says,
"7 and to you being oppressed, repose with us IN the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in a fire of flame, inflicting vengeance on those not knowing God and on those not obeying the gospel of our Lord Jesus,
9 who will [future tense] suffer the penalty of eternal destruction away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He shall come to be glorified in His saints [note: NOT "TO glorify His saints"], and to be marveled at among all those having believed because 'the testimony of us to you' was believed IN THAT DAY"
--Consider how many times "fire" is used in the Book of Revelation (esp. after, say, chpt 8), not to mention the "angels" helping carrying out the Trumpets and Vials judgments unfolding upon the earth;
--Consider Rev3:18 (said to Laodicea), "I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that..." (after having said, "I will spew you..."--which I believe means, basically, into the tribulation period; Recall, I do not believe "churchES" is equated with the phrase "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY"... IOW, the "lukewarm" are NOT SAVED [never were SAVED], rather than meaning "wishy-washy, milque-toast CHRISTIANS". No.);
--Consider that Lk18:8's "[avenge] IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" is the SAME "future, specific, LIMITED time-period" that Rev1:1 ALSO speaks of (1:1 / 1:19c / 4:1--i.e. the SEVEN YEAR TRIB); as well as does Romans 16:20 "will CRUSH Satan UNDER YOUR FEET *IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]*"<--*this* verse addressed specifically to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (recall: "we shall JUDGE ANGELS" 1Cor6:3[14]);
--2Th1:7-8's "INFLICTING VENGEANCE ON" is not merely speaking of "a singular 24-hr day," nor a mere "split-second moment of time" ("IN THE REVELATION OF" doesn't either); only vv.9-10a/b are speaking of His "'openly manifest' RETURN [to the earth / Rev19]"
2Th1:7-8 says,
"7 and to you being oppressed, repose with us IN the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in a fire of flame, inflicting vengeance on those not knowing God and on those not obeying the gospel of our Lord Jesus,
9 who will [future tense] suffer the penalty of eternal destruction away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He shall come to be glorified in His saints [note: NOT "TO glorify His saints"], and to be marveled at among all those having believed because 'the testimony of us to you' was believed IN THAT DAY"
--Consider how many times "fire" is used in the Book of Revelation (esp. after, say, chpt 8), not to mention the "angels" helping carrying out the Trumpets and Vials judgments unfolding upon the earth;
--Consider Rev3:18 (said to Laodicea), "I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that..." (after having said, "I will spew you..."--which I believe means, basically, into the tribulation period; Recall, I do not believe "churchES" is equated with the phrase "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY"... IOW, the "lukewarm" are NOT SAVED [never were SAVED], rather than meaning "wishy-washy, milque-toast CHRISTIANS". No.);
--Consider that Lk18:8's "[avenge] IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" is the SAME "future, specific, LIMITED time-period" that Rev1:1 ALSO speaks of (1:1 / 1:19c / 4:1--i.e. the SEVEN YEAR TRIB); as well as does Romans 16:20 "will CRUSH Satan UNDER YOUR FEET *IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]*"<--*this* verse addressed specifically to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (recall: "we shall JUDGE ANGELS" 1Cor6:3[14]);
--2Th1:7-8's "INFLICTING VENGEANCE ON" is not merely speaking of "a singular 24-hr day," nor a mere "split-second moment of time" ("IN THE REVELATION OF" doesn't either); only vv.9-10a/b are speaking of His "'openly manifest' RETURN [to the earth / Rev19]"
^ [meant to ADD this one too]
--Isa61:-2 "1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD,
and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn" (recall, in Lk4:19, Jesus STOPPED READING at v.2a... 2b is yet "FUTURE" [again, not merely "a singular 24-hr day"])
--Isa61:-2 "1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD,
and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn" (recall, in Lk4:19, Jesus STOPPED READING at v.2a... 2b is yet "FUTURE" [again, not merely "a singular 24-hr day"])
By the way, that ^ is during the SAME time period that 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 speaks of:
"10 and in every deception of wickedness unto those perishing, in return for which they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be saved. 11 And because of this, God will send to them a working of delusion, for them to believe the lie / the false / the pseudei, 12 in order that all those not having believed the truth [<--same as 2Th1:8 speaks of!] but having delighted in unrighteousness should be judged."
IOW, this will be occurring within A DURATION OF TIME, not merely a split-second moment of time at Christ's RETURN/Second Coming to the earth, Rev19. No. [rather, during the ENTIRE "7 yr period" leading UP TO His return to the earth; 2Th1:7-8 = 2Th2:10-12 ! (during a TIME-PERIOD)]
"10 and in every deception of wickedness unto those perishing, in return for which they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be saved. 11 And because of this, God will send to them a working of delusion, for them to believe the lie / the false / the pseudei, 12 in order that all those not having believed the truth [<--same as 2Th1:8 speaks of!] but having delighted in unrighteousness should be judged."
IOW, this will be occurring within A DURATION OF TIME, not merely a split-second moment of time at Christ's RETURN/Second Coming to the earth, Rev19. No. [rather, during the ENTIRE "7 yr period" leading UP TO His return to the earth; 2Th1:7-8 = 2Th2:10-12 ! (during a TIME-PERIOD)]
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There are not multi comings in the clouds with power and glory. What is described by Jesus is the same event that Paul speaks about in 2. Thess.2.
If you distinguish tribulation as coming from men from the wrath of God which comes from God then post trib has plenty support.
Paul says "through great tribulation must we enter the kingdom" and he is speaking about persecution.
The great tribulation is the great persecution we are told to expect in the last times.
When John the Revelator sees the multitude in heaven which no man can number he is told "these are they who have come out of great tribulation, they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb"
I believe they are martyrs of the great trib.
There are not multi comings in the clouds with power and glory. What is described by Jesus is the same event that Paul speaks about in 2. Thess.2.
If you distinguish tribulation as coming from men from the wrath of God which comes from God then post trib has plenty support.
Paul says "through great tribulation must we enter the kingdom" and he is speaking about persecution.
The great tribulation is the great persecution we are told to expect in the last times.
When John the Revelator sees the multitude in heaven which no man can number he is told "these are they who have come out of great tribulation, they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb"
I believe they are martyrs of the great trib.
2 thess 1. 7-9
WHEN, when, when ...the Lord is revealed from heaven. It is a 1, 000 years ... when He comes His first job after gathering us to Himself is to destroy Antichrist and those armies who have come up with him to Jerusalem. The kingdom is set up and rolled out from Jerusalem. And the rebels who are not slain are pushed back to the four corners of the earth.
If you go only by the Jewish prophets and the Jerusalem apostles you'll miss it. Paul had it right.
Once again the prophets and the Jerusalem crowd are not wrong but they miss out the whole Rapture event. See the rapture doesn't affect the Jews and the millennium does not affect the church.
WHEN, when, when ...the Lord is revealed from heaven. It is a 1, 000 years ... when He comes His first job after gathering us to Himself is to destroy Antichrist and those armies who have come up with him to Jerusalem. The kingdom is set up and rolled out from Jerusalem. And the rebels who are not slain are pushed back to the four corners of the earth.
If you go only by the Jewish prophets and the Jerusalem apostles you'll miss it. Paul had it right.
Once again the prophets and the Jerusalem crowd are not wrong but they miss out the whole Rapture event. See the rapture doesn't affect the Jews and the millennium does not affect the church.
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Consider that the verse actually shows these words to be in the PLURAL: "through many [PLURAL] tribulationS [PLURAL]"
Acts 14:22 Greek Text Analysis (biblehub.com)
(we all agree "the Church which is His body" has experienced this ['persecutionS and tribulationS'] throughout its existence on the earth, since the first century... see again 2Th1:4 re: the Thessalonians' own ongoing experiences with this [and the *reason* they found it easy to be persuaded by those telling them "the Day of the Lord IS PRESENT [PERFECT indicative]"--they were not being persuaded by "unreasonable" ideas, or things with absolutely no evidence, things that many ppl suggest was meant in this verse, 2Th2:2])
Acts 14:22 Greek Text Analysis (biblehub.com)
(we all agree "the Church which is His body" has experienced this ['persecutionS and tribulationS'] throughout its existence on the earth, since the first century... see again 2Th1:4 re: the Thessalonians' own ongoing experiences with this [and the *reason* they found it easy to be persuaded by those telling them "the Day of the Lord IS PRESENT [PERFECT indicative]"--they were not being persuaded by "unreasonable" ideas, or things with absolutely no evidence, things that many ppl suggest was meant in this verse, 2Th2:2])
"""If you distinguish tribulation as coming from men from the wrath of God which comes from God then post trib has plenty support."""
Postrib on horses with war like king killing the ac.
Rev 14 has Jesus gathering ripe fruit with a sickle in his hand sitting on a cloud.during the gt
Either that is true and 1 thes is true and we can only have room for a pretrib rapture....or one of them is false and we can no longer trust the bible.
That is what postribbers want us to believe.
The bible is wrong????
Postrib on horses with war like king killing the ac.
Rev 14 has Jesus gathering ripe fruit with a sickle in his hand sitting on a cloud.during the gt
Either that is true and 1 thes is true and we can only have room for a pretrib rapture....or one of them is false and we can no longer trust the bible.
That is what postribbers want us to believe.
The bible is wrong????