The key to the Pre-Trib Rapture:

Good verses

The rapture verses are totally different

You are supporting the fact that the 2nd coming on horses is not the rapture.

Last day includes the millennium.

If you read the bible to prove your point you will always find hooks to hang your beliefs on.
the bible does not promote pre tribulation rapture.

God always took His people through the trouble and saved them through the hardships. God didn't cause them to disappear before the hard times came He saved them through the hard times and will do the same at the end. The faithful will struggle and it will test many peoples faith but we are told to prepare for this. If i believe i'll be in heaven when big problems come, and i will be saved from any struggles and all the hardships, i have no need to prepare, i have no need to build an ark, i have no need to strengthen my faith, i have no need to study the bible, i have no need to be prepared because i'll be taken before the hard trials come.

I choose to be prepared. if i don't need it then praise God but if my faith is tested i'll be prepared.

Don't let the devil tell you not to prepare and that everything will be fine, because if it isn't fine you'll be unprepared.

Mar 14:38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

If you think that Matthew 27:51-53 is my imagination then there is really no sense for you to respond to me at all...........
"At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53They came out of the tombs after Jesus' resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people."

And that is YOUR opinion.

It is my opinion that The Judgment Seat of Christ takes place when the believers see Jesus at the Rapture.

The Judgment of believers will occur immediately following the rapture. The rapture is a future event, an imminent event, when all born again believers will be caught up in the air by Jesus and taken home, by Him, to Heaven. The timing of the Judgment Seat of Christ is given in the following scriptures:

• In Luke 14:12-14, reward is associated with the resurrection and the rapture is when the church is resurrected. The term Church refers to believers.
• In Revelation 19:8, when the Lord returns with His bride at the end of the tribulation, she is seen already rewarded. Her reward is described as fine linen, the righteous acts of the saints undoubtedly the result of rewards.
• In 2 Timothy 4:8 and 1 Corinthians 4:5, rewards are associated with "that day" and with the Lord's coming. Again, for the church this means the event of the rapture.

So the order of events will be
(a) the rapture which includes our glorification or resurrection bodies,
(b) exaltation into the heavens with the Lord,
(c) examination before the Bema, and
(d) compensation or rewards.

Key Rapture Scriptures

The Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words." 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18.

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality." 1 Corinthians 15:51-53.

Yep, just as the scripture states, they were (Raised From The Dead) just as Lazarus and Tabitha, who later died a physical death.

No they didnt receive glorified bodies or visit relatives, as your imagination claimed.

1. The rapture of the church.
Christ comes in the clouds to “snatch away” all those who trust in Him (1 Corinthians 15:52). At this same time, the “dead in Christ” will be resurrected and taken to heaven, too. From our perspective today, this is the next event in the eschatological timeline. The rapture is imminent; no other biblical prophecy needs to be fulfilled before the rapture happens.

2. The rise of the Antichrist.
After the church is taken out of the way (2 Thessalonians 2:7–8), a satanically empowered man will gain worldwide control with promises of peace (Revelation 13:1; Daniel 9:27). He will be aided by another man, called the false prophet, who heads up a religious system that requires worship of the Antichrist (Revelation 19:20).

3. The tribulation.
A period of seven years in which God’s judgment is poured out on sinful humanity (Revelation 6–16). The Antichrist’s rise to power is associated with this time period. During the tribulation on earth, the Church will be in heaven. It is thought that at this time the Judgment Seat of Christ and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb will occur in heaven (2 Corinthians 5:10; Revelation 19:6–10).

4. The Battle of Gog and Magog.
In the first part of the tribulation, a great army from the north, in alliance with several other countries from the Middle East and Africa, attacks Israel and is defeated by God’s supernatural intervention (Ezekiel 38–39). (Some commentators place this battle just before the start of the tribulation.)

5. The abomination of desolation.
At the midway point of the seven-year tribulation, the Antichrist breaks his covenant with Israel and shows his true colors. The Jews are scattered, and many of them turn to the Lord, realizing that Jesus is their Savior. A great persecution breaks out against all those who believe in Christ (Daniel 12:11; Mark 13:14; Revelation 12:17).

6. The Battle of Armageddon.
At the end of the tribulation, Jesus returns with the armies of heaven (Mark 14:62). He saves Jerusalem from annihilation and defeats the armies of the nations fighting under the banner of the Antichrist (Revelation 19:11–21). The Antichrist and the false prophet are captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20).

7. The judgment of the nations.
Christ will judge the survivors of the tribulation, separating the righteous from the wicked as “sheep” and “goats” (Matthew 25:31–46). (It is thought that at this time the Old Testament saints will be raised from the dead.) The righteous will enter the Millennial Kingdom; the wicked will be cast into hell.

8. The binding of Satan.
Satan will be bound and held in a bottomless pit for the next 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1–3).

9. The Millennial Kingdom.
Jesus Himself will rule the world, and Jerusalem will be the capital. This will be a 1,000-year period of peace and prosperity on earth (Revelation 20; Isaiah 60–62). Memorial sacrifices will be offered in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem (Ezekiel 40–48).

10. The last battle.
At the end of the 1,000 years, Satan will be released from his prison for a short time.

11. The Great White Throne Judgment.
All those in hell will be brought forth, and all the wicked from all eras of history will be resurrected to stand before God to be judged.

12. The new creation.
God completely remakes the heavens and the earth.

No Pre-Trib rapture is seen in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 below, who you kidding

The main scripture used by supporters of the pre-trib rapture teaching is 1 Thess 4:15-17 below, this is nothing more than the (Second Coming) (Last Day) resurrection, not a Pre-Trib rapture.

1. Is a resurrection of the believer seen in 1 Thess 4:15-17 below, 100% yes!

2. Does this resurrection take place on the (Last Day) as Jesus Christ taught below in John 6:39-40, 100% yes!

3. Is the (Last Day) the time of final judgement as Jesus Christ taught in John 12:48 below, 100% yes!

Many deny the truth of Gods words below, that are simple, clear, and very easy to understand.

(THE SECOND COMING, LAST DAY RESURRECTION)

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17KJV
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

(THE LAST DAY RESURRECTION)

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

(THE LAST DAY JUDGEMENT)

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Those people were raised to LIFE. What do you then think that they did????

They either went back to live their lives and then die.

Or they were given glorifed bodies and assended to heaven.

There is no other answer possible.

And that again is your opinion.

The Sheep and Goat judgment then, is not a parable, but a clear warning to Tribulation Survivors that once the Lord returns, the time for accepting Him as their Savior will have ended and the consequences will be severe and eternal. But notice how even after it’s too late they call Him Lord? Read Paul’s words from Philippians 2:9-11.

The tribulation saints will serve their Lord Jesus Christ in the midst of desperate surroundings. Faithful to the end, many of these believers will die for their faith. But in their death, they overcome; “They overcame [Satan] by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death” (Revelation 12:11). And God will reward them: “He who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them. Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat upon them, nor any scorching heat. For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; he will lead them to springs of living water. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes” (Revelation 7:15–17).

I am in complete agreement with everything you said so far. But according to Revelation 12:6, 14, the Woman/Israel will flee out into the wilderness to a place where she will be cared for by God during the last 3 1/2 years.

I disagree.

The FINAL Judgemnt is in Revelation 20:12-15 which is after Armageddon and the 1000 year rule of Christ we see.............
"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

I agree completely. Sorry to have left that out.

That will be at the mid-point of the 7 year Tribulation and when the A/C stands in the Temple and says that he is God.......
at that moment the Jews will know that they have stepped into a pile of "stuff".

Then they flee to I think Petre which is a wilderness area east of Israel.

Thnaks for your comment!

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The rapture is a matter of faith in Jesus Christ, not a matter of faith in the rapture. See you on the way UP!

I can not agree with your opinion.

The phrase "Last Days" in the Bible is a technicale term used to apply only to that time just prior to Jesus' 2nd return, and it refers to the whole period of time from the death, resurrection and ascension of Christ to the end when He comes again at Armageddon.

What version is that, the amplified children's bible?

What a Kroc, Pre-Trib Rapture, Blinded By John N. Darby & Adulterer C.I. Scofield

You are so miss led and wrong.