Not By Works

Calvinism's "Total Depravity" doctrine is used to "prove" humans don't have "free will choice" because it says humanity is so "totally depraved" that God has to reach down to the "chosen" and unplug their ears and remove their blinders so that they can understand they're chosen for salvation, while the "unchosen" are left as blind, deaf, and totally oblivious to God's presence as is the Pinball Wizard, right or wrong?

Now, here's why that doctrine is stupid: Satan is the most depraved being to ever exist, and grows more depraved by the hour, it seems yet he's still fully able to discern the presence of God, communicate with God, debate with God, and exercise free will choice to disobey God in all things where God allows it....


.....humans who are light years behind Satan in depravity -- in our knowledge, thinking, and years of experience -- are somehow so "totally depraved" that we can't discern the presence of God, be approached by God, reasoned with by Him, and then offered a choice by Him to either walk with Him or go the other way, unless we are among the "chosen"?

Calvinism is just another form of "Exclusivity Religion" not unlike Luciferian occultism, Catholicism, Eternal Tormentism, etc., all of which say, "I know the path and you don't because you're not worthy, so away with thee, ye profane."

Assuming you're married, I'm sure you wouldn't be satisfied with your husband saying to you, "Hey babe, I hate the idea of cheating on you and hurting you, but when I do, I'll be trusting in your promise "until death do us part."

But, the god of OSAS supposedly settles for such nonsense, right?

Not explicitly, but certainly implicitly, as I've shown over and over.

I’m actually not married.

Not as you have shown, but as you have accused. And Paul was accused of the very same thing - why?

The example is irrelevant. God has promised eternal life to as many as receive Jesus and believe on him. Reading in the Word of God there are promises God will keep his own. God doesn’t lie. I haven’t always believed in eternal security. I came to that conclusion through reading the Bible.

You may read Eph.2 (about sinners being dead in their sins) and Rom.9 (where it speaks about God's choices outside man).

Neither satan nor sinners do have any power of their own. All power and authority is from God. I don't really see the meaning behind comparing satan with men, it isn't really the same thing.

Where do you find exclusivist claims of calvinism? Any source?

The thing is: can one jump out and in of one's salvation?

can i crawl back and forth out of mother's womb over and over?

can the leopard change his spots.

What a distortion of the Word of God as well as a distortion of the Law of Moses. You speak of "fornication, sex with your neighbor's wife, etc" a lot. Are you speaking from experience or word of mouth.

"No man ascendeth up to heaven" is in the context of the verses before it which deals with a knowledge of heavenly things. Jesus is saying, "No one ascended to heaven and came back down to tell us about it except Me."
Elijah indeed went to heaven and received his immortal body.
Enoch never died in Hebrews 11.

It isn't "my" wishy-washy gospel. I read, discern the "Gospel of God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth." I believe His promise of eternal life through salvation by, through and because of Jesus Christ Savior of the world.

I do not believe so. If you are saved, you are in Christ, in the body of Christ and sealed with the Holy Spirit of God.

As David said wherever I go. I can’t hide from you because there you are. And YOU HOLD ONTO ME

Sadly some want to seal themselves

a gospel of 'you save yourself and/or keep yourself saved' certainly doesn't save anyone.
a gospel of 'you can't depend on God to keep you' and 'God doesn't carry the lost sheep home on His shoulder' doesn't save anyone.
a gospel of 'eternal life is temporary' doesn't save anyone.
a gospel depending on human will, desire and effort is no gospel at all.

If you were?

Proven accusations, unlike those which were against Paul.

There many reasons why OSAS is not Biblical, such as the Unmerciful Servant who was totally forgiven, but his latter end wound up worse than the beginning....so why adhere to such a doctrine, if not to excuse "Christian" iniquity, the workers of which Jesus will command to depart from Him?

The way you worded it is why I corrected you. Seemed you were assuming