"Rightly Dividing" 2 Timothy 2:15

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" rightly dividing " = clear to understand.
Modern translation = changes to whatever you want it to mean .
 
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throughfaith said:
" rightly dividing " = clear to understand.
Modern translation = changes to whatever you want it to mean .
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from post #2 --

if a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand,​
and if a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand​
(Matthew 3:24-25) ​

if God's word is "divided" it cannot stand.
therefore 'rightly dividing' it is not seeking to divide it at all.

my view is -- use it right, in alignment with the spirit of the cut, of the parry, and of the thrust. cut straight, not crooked.

you want to talk about Noah? then understand how it is testifying of Christ. use it to teach the gospel - Peter did.
saying 'we're not supposed to build an ark; that scripture isn't for us' is not, in my opinion, skillfulness with the sword. it's like having a double edged weapon and deciding one edge is only for decoration - by saying so you haven't proven that the back edge is not for war; you've proven that you don't understand its use.
 
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posthuman said:
from post #2 --

if a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand,​
and if a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand​
(Matthew 3:24-25) ​

if God's word is "divided" it cannot stand.
therefore 'rightly dividing' it is not seeking to divide it at all.

use it right, in alignment with the spirit of the cut, of the parry, and of the thrust.
you want to talk about Noah? then understand how it is testifying of Christ. saying 'we're not supposed to build an ark; that scripture isn't for us' is not, in my opinion, skillfulness with the sword. it's like having a double edged weapon and deciding one edge is only for decoration.
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is says rightly dividing . Mathew 3.24 with context says 'divided '. Different context , completely different meaning. Its strange why you make that connection, that's quite a stretch?

Let's go with 'use it right ' . How vague is that ? 'use it right ' how ? It raises more questions than it answers.
 
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posthuman said:
from post #2 --

if a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand,​
and if a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand​
(Matthew 3:24-25) ​

if God's word is "divided" it cannot stand.
therefore 'rightly dividing' it is not seeking to divide it at all.

my view is -- use it right, in alignment with the spirit of the cut, of the parry, and of the thrust. cut straight, not crooked.

you want to talk about Noah? then understand how it is testifying of Christ. use it to teach the gospel - Peter did.
saying 'we're not supposed to build an ark; that scripture isn't for us' is not, in my opinion, skillfulness with the sword. it's like having a double edged weapon and deciding one edge is only for decoration - by saying so you haven't proven that the back edge is not for war; you've proven that you don't understand its use.
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You don't have a verse that tells you how to use the word . Other than ' use it right ' . The response to that instruction should be " yeah thanks for stating the obvious, but how ? "
 
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throughfaith said:
15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
As it reads .
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Question the word I have highlighted there what does it mean ?
Blessings
Bill
 
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throughfaith said:
You don't have a verse that tells you how to use the word
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but yes; i do:

Search the scriptures!
For in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me.
(John 5:39, akjv)​
 
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Guojing said:
You ever wonder why, before Paul, Israel/Hebrews/Jews never had to "rightly divide the word of truth"?
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people were free to misuse the word of God before some certain day? :oops:

:LOL:
 
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posthuman said:
but yes; i do:

Search the scriptures!​
For in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me.​
(John 5:39, akjv)​
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'search 'yes that would tie in with the bereans who were more noble ect . But without rightly dividing you may miss the sign posts in your search .
 
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people were free to misuse the word of God before some certain day? :oops:

:LOL:
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There was no need to rightly divide the word of truth before Paul, because there was only one truth, Israel's truth.

You were either Israel and part of the covenants, or you were not and completely excluded from the covenants. Ephesians 2:11-12

So all of Israel's truth was for a believer, before Paul.
 
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That one would be self evident .
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Clue the word meaning has change in the past century or so .
σπουδάζω

spoudazō

11x: to hurry; be bent upon, to endeavor earnestly, strive,
Blessings
Bill
 
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throughfaith said:
'search 'yes that would tie in with the bereans who were more noble ect . But without rightly dividing you may miss the sign posts in your search .
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maybe you missed the signpost, i will write it large 'so that he who runs may read it':
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"they testify of Me"​
 
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posthuman said:
people were free to misuse the word of God before some certain day? :oops:

:LOL:[/QUOT
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Laish said:
Clue the word meaning has change in the past century or so .
σπουδάζω

spoudazō

11x: to hurry; be bent upon, to endeavor earnestly, strive,
Blessings
Bill
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' study ' is good .
 
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Laish said:
Clue the word meaning has change in the past century or so .
σπουδάζω

spoudazō

11x: to hurry; be bent upon, to endeavor earnestly, strive,
Blessings
Bill
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The command is to “STUDY”; the command is to “study” the word of God; the command is to “study” so that you can “RIGHTLY DIVIDE” those words of truth.
 
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maybe you missed the signpost, i will write it large 'so that he who runs may read it':
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"they testify of Me"​
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As its evident every cult and False religion sits in the four gospels and has no clue of ' rightly dividing ' ,you can line up all day long every verse that ' testifies of Jesus ' ,and have no understanding on how to appropriate.
 
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throughfaith said:
A thought on the modern translations on this verse . Why would such an obvious statement need to be made . If it really is saying such wishy washy things such as " who correctly explains the word of truth." ..? This is just too obvious to be a correct translation.
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What's too obvious is your "King James Onlyist" mentality. With such a narrow view, it's no wonder you argue with so many people.
 
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What's too obvious is your "King James Onlyist" mentality. With such a narrow view, it's no wonder you argue with so many people.
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A narrow view, would be to be ignorant of the arguments for both sides, which i already stated . You missed it. I'm not arguing.
 
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