Epidemic of childless and miserable 40+ women

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I wonder why men wouldn't want to commit? Maybe because they enjoy the loose party-life too much. My Nan used to say "If they get the milk for free why buy the cow?" I think she had a point.

My son is a tall, good-looking man who dated a beautiful blonde. She was a little self-centered though - you could pick up clues. They broke up - he never said why.. I knew whoever got him was really making out because he's a good man - a rarity in today's culture. He actually cares about his customers and people love him.

He then dated a young woman who was overweight but had a pretty face and she pursued him until they married. She wouldn't have been my choice for him but after years of being married it's obvious that she loves him and made the best wife I ever could have hoped for him to marry. I realized that he was smart in who he chose. She makes him meals, does his laundry, and basically waits on him. i know that's not culturally accepted among today's women but that woman knew how to get a man and they have a great relationship.
Oh my gosh, this is so funny. So inorder for a woman to get a husband, she must pursue him, and when he graciously agrees to marry her, she must forget about any hopes or dreams she has and have only one ambition and that is to wait on him. This really is your idea of a perfect marriage/wife?

Well done to your son! At least he was mature enough to go against mommy's wishes and get married to the "overweight" woman who you didnt approve of. Well done indeed👍🏾💯

Well done to the beautiful blonde as well 💯. He never said why they broke up? Let me tell you why. Your son may be tall, good looking bla bla bla but Ms Blond wanted a little more in a man than just looks. Well done👍🏾
 

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Oh my gosh, this is so funny. So inorder for a woman to get a husband, she must pursue him, and when he graciously agrees to marry her, she must forget about any hopes or dreams she has and have only one ambition and that is to wait on him. This really is your idea of a perfect marriage/wife?

Well done to your son! At least he was mature enough to go against mommy's wishes and get married to the "overweight" woman who you didnt approve of. Well done indeed👍🏾💯

Well done to the beautiful blonde as well 💯. He never said why they broke up? Let me tell you why. Your son may be tall, good looking bla bla bla but Ms Blond wanted a little more in a man than just looks. Well done👍🏾
Your comments say far more about you than about anyone else.
 
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Praise Jesus he is a God of true justice, let the lovers of everything wrong be broken without a hand and laid very low, in the name of Jesus, amen!
 

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It was and is the objective of cultural marxist to undermine and destroy non- marxist societies.. Once you destroy a society then you can then take it over and build a communist society.. It's like what happens to new army recruits they are taken to camps and they are destroyed to a certain extent by their drill sergeant.. This includes a mental side.. Then once they have destroyed the recruit they then rebuild them into a person who will be mentaly suited to soildering..

Of course time and time again socialism / communism has failed where ever it has been tried because it denies human nature.. The same will happen to societies that embrace Feminism.. Feminist societies are effectively barren. The western feminist cultures are now unable to replace their own population and are now importing many thousands of people from cultures diametrically opposed to western culture.. The fall of western culture is inevitable because their culture cannot inherit the earth if they are failing to do the most basic thing that allows that to happen.. Having babies..

And yes the elites of the west did encourage feminism not for the benifit of woman but to effectivly doube the work force thus ensuring continued downward pressure on wages and conditions of their workers.. Bakc in the 1950's a working class man could afford to support a wife and kids and from time to time even afford to take them on a vacation.. Now in the west it takes both the husband and wife to be working in higher paying carriers to be able to afford the costs of living and often then cannot afford or are even allowed to take a week of work for a yearly vacation.. For most people a week on a beach only happens when they are colledge students or when they retire..
You nailed it. They encouraged feminism not for the benefit of women. I had never understood that keeping the downward pressure of wages was part of it but it makes sense. The pressure on people today is immense. Yes they're replacing us with foreigners - one part left out of it was that they want to destroy white/black Christian America. That's what I've read. Because you don't see Christians coming into the country - it's all people with religions far-removed from Christianity. Look at all the doctors that came in on H1b visas - they aren't Christian. And many came in on those visas who aren't real doctors. They've damaged people across America - but no one is talking about it.
 

saintrose

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I don't know what people mean when they say a woman choses "career ahead of family." Does it mean she decided to go to college? Or does it mean she decided to pursue graduate studies? Or, does it mean she decided to choose certain professions, and what are these professions? Even a "feminine" field such as nursing is a difficult career requiring odd hours with a lot of stress. It's not like the old movies where the girl walks around in heels carrying a tray. The only examples I can think of is if a woman rejected a proposal from a guy, or if she paused dating for school, then I can say she placed her career first. However, most people I know study/work and date at the same time.

What should be done to discourage girls from entering certain fields? If parents want to discourage their girls from choosing certain careers, this needs to implemented early in childhood. I don't know too many parents who raise their girls this way, and I'm not even sure if it's fair to the child. Most parents raise their girls telling them that they can be whatever they want/reach for the stars, etc. I think that's the underlying influence on why girls place importance in careers - how they were raised. The girls go through schools earning good/great grades, they gain interest in certain fields some of which take longer time in study. Some jobs require longer hours, such as law or owning a business. It is very obvious when parents do not place importance on school or careers, their kids in general (girl included) are fine with getting Cs, not going to college, etc. So, I think the biggest influence is probably parents/immediate people in one's lives.
I think culture sometimes overrules that. If youth see their peers all going in one direction it's very very hard for them to go in another. Many movies and cartoons today belittle families - it's next to impossible to try to raise your child right in western culture.
 

saintrose

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That is quite sad...I can imagine what you went through...@PC123 😔


Though I don't feel like my life is miserable...well of course, I get lonely sometimes...so I agree about that 40+ women childless and miserable...It does really affect everyone if we are going to be honest here...the only thing that keeps me hopeful the only thing that puts smile on my lips is the LORD but without Him I think I'll be lost...I'LL be jumping from one man to another and I'll be sleeping around...or I got few failed marriages already... It is quite hard actually to keep your hopes up when you are seeing gray hairs on your head lol...


So, I think the title of @saintrose's thread have some truths...because though it doesn't apply to me I know that if not because of God's grace being a 40+ childless and single woman would make my life so lonely and maybe miserable 😅

Last night I just got a message from a man on messenger from my town...he is quite direct about his intentions...he said to me if you will accept me we'll marry immediately... I was like wow this man is interesting...but while I was talking to him I asked him a few things...he is not a believer,he just broke up with his woman a month ago,he drinks,he smokes and he lets his older sister to support his kids for their education I asked why?he said because his sister is working overseas and maybe he thinks his older sister has money that much because she is working abroad..


I was thinking about this man's offer lol lol I was like I want family...but would I learn to love this man in the long run? Can I tolerate his drinking and smoking habits? Can I compromise my faith...? He has two kids and that's fine I guess...He has work earning ok...He looks ok also... I immediately turned him down in the end...because of one reason(aside from being an unbeliever)...he failed to take his responsibility as a father...If he can't support and take full responsibility for his own kids ...why would you ask me to trust my life to you...I am a stranger 🤔 I guess am I fussy? 😮
You have a good head on your shoulders and I'll be praying that God will bring someone good into your life. Our last pastor was unmarried and he was tall, had a great personality, and would make a great companion but didn't meet the right woman either. I told him he should go on a dating site. Maybe he thought that wouldn't look right in his position, but I think there are eligible people but the problem is finding them.

I've had a few breakthroughs fasting. I've gone through a lot - and to be honest, I wouldn't wish raising children on anyone in today's culture - especially if you're in the west. The culture is just so poisoned. I was at a ballgame and I was sickened by the raw meanness of the kids! And no one corrected them! The pitcher made the mistake of screaming at someone I loved. His parents were both school teachers who sat behind me and did nothing. I yelled from where I was sitting "That's no way to treat a teammate! What's wrong with you!" The entire field grew silent. My family shushed me embarrassed. But a curious thing happened: the pitcher turned and apologized - as he should. I wasn't done. I was so upset that I yelled at the coaches for not controlling the little monsters. I was related to one of the coaches through marriage. It wasn't his fault either - it was the parents. Why wouldn't parents correct their kids?

So believe me - someone with a good heart is needed for these youth today. I actually lost a lot of hope in humanity after witnessing the raw cruelty on that ball field. Those kids were NASTY and parents didn't correct them - that was the saddest of all. The powers that be that have control of Hollywood have poisoned the culture.
 

saintrose

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The short answer is no, it's not realistic at all... It's the same for men.
I would site the exact same reasons; trust, career, promiscuity, fussiness and I'm sure there are other reasons as well



I would call it an innate drive, especially in our 20's when our libido is at its highest...
But there comes a time when that innate drive is overtaken by another innate drive which is to have a family...

Personally, I never felt that desire to have a family until my ex left me for some rich grandpa about 6 years ago...
That realization that I would never have a child, that I would not have anyone to love or have anyone to love me was devastating...

It can be so devastating that it can drive a person to suicide...
Many people have heard that 75% of suicides are men but that's not the whole story...
For every suicide that occurs there are about 25-30 failed attempts at suicide, 75% of which are women...

One can draw a few conclusions from that but the point I'm making is that it affects everyone
Did you ever try to meet someone else? Some men father children later in life. Our neighbors have about 9 adopted kids - they always have a gang of kids at their house and take on more kids all the time.

I like to encourage Christians to be foster parents because of what I witnessed. Our other unsaved neighbor's had an adopted girl and they mistreated her. The father openly said he was doing it to get a new truck. It was heartbreaking. One of the women who worked in the lunchroom told me the young girl was horribly bullied. I learned a huge lesson that year in politics and liars.

I called the school and told the principle that the young girl was being bullied. To protect HIMSELF he sent me a letter, basically calling me a liar and in pretty, flowery, language stating "no such thing was happening."

It's all about protecting THEIR JOBS and NOT the child. And if you speak truth they will call you a liar.

I couldn't stand that guy over a number of things - he had no business working with children. An older saint and I prayed for his removal. A friend called me to tell me he was out. It took about a year. I cried. I called my old friend and she asked me to send her the article after it came out in the local paper and I did. It's close to impossible to remove a principal.

That was one of the most clear answers to prayer that I've had.

But my point is: if you have love to give you are needed. BADLY.
 

saintrose

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That is quite sad...I can imagine what you went through...@PC123 😔


Though I don't feel like my life is miserable...well of course, I get lonely sometimes...so I agree about that 40+ women childless and miserable...It does really affect everyone if we are going to be honest here...the only thing that keeps me hopeful the only thing that puts smile on my lips is the LORD but without Him I think I'll be lost...I'LL be jumping from one man to another and I'll be sleeping around...or I got few failed marriages already... It is quite hard actually to keep your hopes up when you are seeing gray hairs on your head lol...


So, I think the title of @saintrose's thread have some truths...because though it doesn't apply to me I know that if not because of God's grace being a 40+ childless and single woman would make my life so lonely and maybe miserable 😅

Last night I just got a message from a man on messenger from my town...he is quite direct about his intentions...he said to me if you will accept me we'll marry immediately... I was like wow this man is interesting...but while I was talking to him I asked him a few things...he is not a believer,he just broke up with his woman a month ago,he drinks,he smokes and he lets his older sister to support his kids for their education I asked why?he said because his sister is working overseas and maybe he thinks his older sister has money that much because she is working abroad..


I was thinking about this man's offer lol lol I was like I want family...but would I learn to love this man in the long run? Can I tolerate his drinking and smoking habits? Can I compromise my faith...? He has two kids and that's fine I guess...He has work earning ok...He looks ok also... I immediately turned him down in the end...because of one reason(aside from being an unbeliever)...he failed to take his responsibility as a father...If he can't support and take full responsibility for his own kids ...why would you ask me to trust my life to you...I am a stranger 🤔 I guess am I fussy? 😮
There you go - why don't you and PC123 talk?
 

saintrose

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Not everyone wants to get married and not everyone wants kids and there's nothing wrong with it
Of course not. Everyone should make their own decisions. My concern is more about the people who are being led in specific directions by societal demands. 'Some' women have bought into the beliefs - pushed by the elite - that being a wife and mother is for dummies and that a career is what she should be spending her time pursuing.

The elite have crafted a lot of subtle ways in which this message is sent to young women. Now we're beginning to see the fruits of it: many women in their 40's who gave up having a family to pursue a career are unhappy. I first watched a documentary on this and saw a woman in her 40's who had become a lawyer - cry on camera. She said "everybody told me to pursue a career; nobody told me to pursue having a family."

Several authors have written about it.
 

saintrose

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Your attitude stinks and if that is what you think all women want, then you simply operate out of prejudice and ignorance.

Oh sure I've had some tall boyfriends and pretty good looking too.

My husband that I have been married to for almost 21 years? About 5' 9" and sorta cute but not a movie star. He works hard for the money he earns but does make a good living. No 100 K though.

I contribute to the household as well and do not sit on the sofa watching soaps and eating chocolates all day.

You exhibit cliche attitudes with regards to women and I bet you can be a real turnoff to many women.

I see you are not married. Maybe set your sights lower and treat women with respect and as if you believe God gave them a brain.
After a friend divorced I was helping them to find how to meet others. Was I shocked to read the comments on one singles site. . A woman wrote that her brother met women and the first thing they wanted to know was how much he made. She said that he was so sickened by the blatant status-seeking of these women that he would drive an older car just to test women out. So there does seem to be a subset of women who seek status.
 
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lol this has become a matchmaking thread.
 

saintrose

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May I ask why ? Thanks 🤔
You made a nice comment to him - maybe you could be mutually supportive? Maybe I spoke out of turn or without thinking carefully. It's early and I haven't had my second cup of coffee.
 

saintrose

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lol this has become a matchmaking thread.
eeek maybe I should keep my thoughts to myself and just let things happen naturally. There is no erase button on here when you put your foot in your mouth.
 
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eeek maybe I should keep my thoughts to myself and just let things happen naturally. There is no erase button on here when you put your foot in your mouth.
It would be nice to see @Kireina matched with someone and having that family she desires. Sometimes a little outside help can push a little to make that happen.
 

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You nailed it. They encouraged feminism not for the benefit of women. I had never understood that keeping the downward pressure of wages was part of it but it makes sense. The pressure on people today is immense. Yes they're replacing us with foreigners - one part left out of it was that they want to destroy white/black Christian America. That's what I've read. Because you don't see Christians coming into the country - it's all people with religions far-removed from Christianity. Look at all the doctors that came in on H1b visas - they aren't Christian. And many came in on those visas who aren't real doctors. They've damaged people across America - but no one is talking about it.
Well we know that Communism has atheism as one of it's foundations.. And feminism is out to destroy the patriachy and lets face it God is the ultimate patriach.. It's not a co-incidence that a lot of feminists cannot stand Christianity.. Especially Bible based Christianity..
 

saintrose

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Oh my gosh, this is so funny. So inorder for a woman to get a husband, she must pursue him, and when he graciously agrees to marry her, she must forget about any hopes or dreams she has and have only one ambition and that is to wait on him. This really is your idea of a perfect marriage/wife?

Well done to your son! At least he was mature enough to go against mommy's wishes and get married to the "overweight" woman who you didnt approve of. Well done indeed👍🏾💯

Well done to the beautiful blonde as well 💯. He never said why they broke up? Let me tell you why. Your son may be tall, good looking bla bla bla but Ms Blond wanted a little more in a man than just looks. Well done👍🏾
It's good to know that we have a prophet on the forum (or one who reads cards?) who can tell why one person she doesn't know breaks up with another person she doesn't know. And does so in an accusatory, snippety way to boot. Mighty Christian of ya.

No. I didn't say any of that. You did. Their relationship worked for THEM. She didn't give up her dreams - he supported her while she pursued her art career and is now joining with someone else to open some store. I pointed out that the gorgeous blonde who he dated was self-centered and the "beautiful people" aren't always the ones with the right spirit who make the best mate. My son didn't "graciously agree" to marry his wife - she showed him L-O-V-E and it was expressed in A-C-T-I-O-N. Many young women today - western women - would likely look down on that kind of giving love. She won him over with love.

It's touched on in Peter 3:3: "let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price."

I think it takes wisdom and strength of character when society teaches you that you should have the trophy husband or trophy wife and you thumb your nose at them and your friends and marry the girl who your friends put you down for. (And be honest: we know when someone rates high on the desirability score but people lie about it when it's locked within the secrets of their hearts)

I'll point out that my son wasn't the sought after class President, captain of the football team, voted Most Likely to Succeed. He wasn't the type that all the girls would flock to because they thought he was going to be the next head of Comcast and their futures would be all set. Which shows that some shallow people go after others only because they're politically connected and not even because they're physically attracted to them. A lot of weird stuff like that goes on - where people learn to bury their real feelings early on.

If we're honest we know that in high school it's all about dating the best looking, the best connected, the class President. The most likely to succeed.

Christians like to act like they eschew all that but I've found most churches are just as bad as the world with their popularity contests. I was never a politicker nor was my husband and nor were any of our children. I'll also add that my son and his wife don't attend church but they live more a "Christian" walk than most people in high positions in the church hierarchy. They did completely free work for an older man with cancer, and constantly give breaks to people down on their luck - even though they themselves aren't doing great financially. All the people I used to hold in high esteem and who I thought were these great Christians really weren't. And many things they do which look good - and when for college - they do it to look good on paper - they don't do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

It took years of seeing the inside of churches and how they work to see that they really aren't much different than the world.

So Ma'am let's see how well you do and how well your kids turn out navigating this screwed up world and screwed up church and all the wrong messages sent to them and you as you struggle to get through it.

And let's not forget all the self-appointed social justice warriors just looking to put you down for some perceived wrong they think you've committed who want to pound you into the ground for that you encounter on Christian forums...
 

saintrose

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It would be nice to see @Kireina matched with someone and having that family she desires. Sometimes a little outside help can push a little to make that happen.
She seems to have a good spirit - I'd like to see her find that special someone. I know how hard it has to be in today's culture. It's so haywire today.
 
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She seems to have a good spirit - I'd like to see her find that special someone. I know how hard it has to be in today's culture. It's so haywire today.
yes it is definately difficult to find someone normal, nice and genuine in the world today when the opposite is promoted.