The great "Wonder" "Woman" - Revelation 12

The great "Wonder" "Woman" - Revelation 12

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Let's discuss these passages from the Bible.

Some questions to think about:

Who is this great "Wonder" "Woman"?

Who is this great "Red" "Dragon"?

Who is this "child"?

What is the "Sun"?

What is the "moon"?

What are the "twelve stars"?

What are the "seven heads"?

What are "the ten horns"?

What are the "seven crowns" upon the "seven heads"?

What is the "tail"?

What is the "third part"?

What is "of the stars of Heaven"?

What is the "rod of Iron"?

What is this "caught up to God and to His throne"?

Some have said that the "woman" of Revelation 12 is 'Mary', but is that possible according to the text itself?

Story in the Stars by Joe Amaral in Winnipeg, MB, Canada - YouTube

Maybe this can help you.

I haven't been able to answer all the questions about my current knowledge

1.Who is this great "Wonder" "Woman"?

In a sense, the earth's most suitable meaning is in line with the description of Scripture.
http://www.earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7072
a woman clothed with the sun(The sun shines on the earth), and the moon under her feet(The earth is the master of the moon), and upon her head a crown of twelve stars(Maybe the twelve constellations,Although it's not biblical):

But I think the deeper meaning here represents the truth of The Creator,the law of The Creator,The profound truth of the creator breeds life

2.What are the "seven heads"?

These seven evil thoughts represent seven heads

Proverbs 6
16 These six things doth the Lord hate, yea, seven are an abomination unto Him:
17 a proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 a false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

3.What are "the ten horns"?

Seven evil thoughts represent seven heads,
Ten sins caused by these seven evil thoughts,
And things that can cause harm as horns.


4.What are the "seven crowns" upon the "seven heads"?

bowels of mercies,
kindness,
humbleness of mind,
meekness,
longsuffering,
forgiving one another,
and above all these things put on charity

Hope this may help you understaning else well,then tell me the others answers

The woman in Revelation 12 symbolizes Israel, or more precisely believing Israel. The twelve stars represent the 12 tribes of Israel, and since she is clothed with the sun, that represents imputed righteousness, which is given to believers by the Sun of Righteousness -- Christ. The man child who would rule all nations with a rod of iron is none other than Christ Himself.

Earth is the mother land, Israel is the womb of the earth, and 'Mary' is the mother of Jesus ,
This is God's original plan, the plan for life, which was prepared from the beginning,
not a single one can be omitted

To concentrate on Who the Woman of Revelation 12 is, it is best to show first who she isn't - and why. But before we do this, let's cut down the amount of speculation that goes on among Bible student. The Man-Child can only be ONE OF TWO PEOPLE. The ONLY ones who will rule the Nations with "a rod of iron" is Jesus Himself (Ps.2:9; Rev.19:15), and the Christians who OVERCOME the apostasy of the Church (Rev.2:27). If the Man-Child is Jesus, then the Woman must be Mary, or, if you really stretch things, Israel. Here are the facts then about these two:

1. The Woman is a "sign" (lit. Gk.) - Mary, and Israel, are not "signs". They are real
2. The Woman is in heaven. Mary was, and is, never in heaven. Israel do not aspire to heaven. They seek a Land - Canaan
3. The Woman, though she is in heaven, gives birth on earth. Neither Mary not Israel did this
4. The Man-Child is raptured to the throne in heaven directly after birth. But the Woman already has "other seed" BEFORE the Man-Child. Jesus was firstborn to Mary
5. The Man-Child is raptured to heaven directly after his birth. Jesus was not
6. The Woman flees to the Wilderness for 1260 days. Mary fled to Egypt, then, a lush civilized Land, first of the world powers
7. The Woman is clothed with the sun. If our Lord Jesus is the "sun of righteousness" (Mal.4:2) Israel refused Him and murdered Him
8. The Woman has a crown. A crown is for ruling. Israel have lost the Kingdom (Matt.21:43)
9. The Woman has the moon under her feet. The "lesser light is to rule the night". Neither Mary, nor Israel ruled the dark time on earth
10. In Joseph's dream in Genesis 37 the sun is Jacob, in Revelation it is a Garment
11. In Joseph's dream the moon is one of FOUR woman who brought forth Israel, in Revelation it is a footstool
12. In Joseph's dream only one star rules - Him, and not Jesus since He came from Judah
13. The Woman has THREE SEEDS, (i) the Man-Child, (ii) those "who have the testimony of Jesus Christ", and (iii) those "who keep the commandments of God". Neither Mary, nor Israel, brought forth those who would have the "testimony of Jesus Christ"

This last point leads us to the correct answer. In Galatians the problem was that some Jews, who were believers, brought a teaching from Jerusalem that it was good to start by believing in Jesus, but to be sanctified one must keep the Law. Throughout Galatians, TWO PARTIES, TWO COVENANTS and TWO PEOPLES are CONTRASTED. In nearly every mention, one party is the Party under Law, and the other, under Grace. By Chapter 4:23 these two parties have been CONTRASTED in a multitude of ways. The final contrast is Hagar and Sarah and their respective SEED - Ishmael who stands for the Law, bondage and Jerusalem that was then (before it is razed by Titus), and Sarah the barren who is not under Law. But in verse 26 there is a sudden change in the principle of Galatians. Paul gives "Jerusalem ABOVE" as "MOTHER OF US ALL". That is, heavenly Jerusalem is MOTHER of BOTH those under Law ("who keep the commandments of God"), AND is MOTHER of those under Promise - The Galatian Believers ("who have the testimony of Jesus Christ"). And the Man-Child "who is to rule the Nations with a rod of iron" is

1. "seed" of the heavenly Woman who is raptured. Israel are not raptured and Jesus was not raptured after His birth
2. "seed" who overcomes the Devil (only some of the Church do - the Overcomers)
3. "seed" who overcame by the blood of Jesus Christ. (Only the Church can do this. Jesus does not need His blood to Overcome, and Israel refuse His blood)
4. "seed" who displace Satan from heaven. Although our Lord Jesus defeated and overcame Satan, Satan was not yet displaced from heaven for another 2,000 years. It is only at the end of the age when the "rest of her seed" must flee for 1260 days, and Satan "has but a short while" that Satan is cast to earth by Michael (See Daniel 12:1-2).

I propose that the evidence shows, if the Bible is interpreted with the Bible (and not privately - 2nd Pet.1:20), that the Woman of Revelation 12 is New Jerusalem, Mother of US all - Christian and Israel (See Revelation 21 for "walls and gates")

I think it is necessary for me to give more details about what I have learned。
It's a metaphor, but not entirely.because the Almighty of God.
You are dust, but return to dust.
Eve is The mother of all,she has returned to dust,also Adam.
What you probably don't know is that the earth looks like Adam and Eve turning back to dust. I can't put the pictures, cuz human shame heart,but you can check The link here(Pls take a look about these pics,then you can understand well.)

http://www.earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7072

Even they're dead, I'm talking about Adam and Eve, but life still goes on.

I don't know if you can see on the map that the location of the house of Israel is exactly the location of a woman's womb.

This is Israel Why so special in The eyes of creator.Everything is about life in the eyes of creator.

Women have dysmenorrhea，It's a physiological phenomenon,In the Old Testament, the stories of Israel's war and bloodshed are like the physiological phenomenon of woman.(Some people can't accept bloody things, but in fact, in the eyes of the creator, this is a normal phenomenon that a living person should have. Maybe I have said something secret, maybe Adam and Eve are still alive in the eyes of the creator)

Since the physiological phenomenon of women can be considered as such on earth，So the necessary conditions for a woman to get pregnant, you know, tadpoles and egg and placenta.

Maybe that's why Rome was so active on earth at that time.Men's physiological phenomena need organ activity.

The Virgin Mary was creator's chosen ovum.It seems that women only ovulate one ovum at a time.That makes sense.

Of crouse the child is Jesus.son of man and son of god,Indeed, you deserve praise our creator.

so tell me who is The wonder women now?

Maybe this will help? He just released this video.

Here's what I'd put in a different post/thread, some time back:

[see also 1 Chronicles 5:1-2isv - "5:1 Here is a record of[a] the descendants of Reuben, Israel’s firstborn. (He was the firstborn, but because he defiled his father’s marriage bed, his birthright was transferred to the descendants of Israel’s son Joseph. As a result, Reuben is not enrolled in the genealogy according to the birthright. 2 Even though Judah became prominent among his relatives—that is, the Commander-in-chief will be his descendant—nevertheless the right of the firstborn went to Joseph.)" (see again verses at TOP [note: different post/thread])]

Yes. I believe that this birthright was carried to Ephraim, for after the division of Israel after Solomon, the ten northern Tribes are sometimes called "Ephraim". Maybe Manasseh lost out because he did not want to cross Jordan and inherit the Land that God set for him. But I can't insist on that.

^ I found this interesting:

[quoting Gaebelein on Genesis 49, at BibleHub]


And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

CHAPTER 49 Jacob’s Prophecy

1. The call of Jacob: “Gather yourselves together” (Genesis 49:1-2)

2. The prophecy concerning his sons (Genesis 49:3-27)

Reuben (Genesis 49:3-4)

Simeon and Levi (Genesis 49:5-7)

Judah (Genesis 49:8-12)

Zebulun (Genesis 49:13)

Issachar (Genesis 49:14-15)

Dan (Genesis 49:16-18)

Gad (Genesis 49:19)

Asher (Genesis 49:20)

Naphtali (Genesis 49:21)

Joseph and Benjamin (Genesis 49:22-27)

The last words of Jacob to his sons are often called “the blessings.” What he said is rather a prophecy. Concerning Judah he saith the most because from Judah there was to come the Shiloh, that is, the Messiah. Jacob’s prophecy covers in a remarkable way the entire history of Israel, past, present and future. We give a few brief hints, which will be helpful in a closer study of this important chapter. Seven periods of Israel’s history are given here.

1. Reuben, Simeon and Levi show the character of the nation up to the time of Christ. 2. Judah points clearly to the period of this nation when our Lord was on the earth. 3. Zebulun and Issachar, where the sea and commerce, indolence and service are prominent, describes Israel scattered among the nations during this age. 4. Dan shows Israel apostate during antichrist (Dan is left out in Revelation 7). 5. Gad, Asher and Naphtali describe the godly remnant during the great tribulation. 6. Joseph speaks of the second coming of Christ; and 7. Benjamin, the son of the right hand, of the righteous rule of the King.

--Gaebelein - Genesis 49 Gaebelein's Annotated Bible (biblehub.com)


[end quoting; bold and underline mine]


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my guess its a WOMAN pastor lol

the red dragon is the devil that tries to say that women pastors dont exist and kill the child thats she raises. As she raises a man child, not a boy child.

Q: Who is this great "Wonder" "Woman"?

A: The woman of Revelation 12 is said to be clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and wearing a crown of twelve stars. Theses symbols reveal who she is, as they are also used in Genesis 37:9-10

"I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me. He told his father and brothers, but his father rebuked him and said, “What is this dream that you have had? Will your mother and brothers and I actually come and bow down to the ground before you?”

Jacob gives us the literal meaning to the sybolism:

Sun = Jacob

Moon = Wife/wives

Stars = Eleven of the twelve tribes, with Joseph being the twelve star.

Therefore, the woman clothe with the sun, with the moon under her feet and wearing a crown of twelves stars, represents the Nation Israel as a whole. This would mean that when Satan and his angels are cast to the earth as a result of the 7th trumpet/3rd woe, the woman/Israel will flee out into the desert where she will be cared for during that 1260 days, which is that last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period.

Q: Who is this great "Red" "Dragon"?

A: "And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Q: Who is this "child"?

A: First of all, The 'Male Child' is not Jesus as commonly interpreted, for He does not fit the criteria. The 'Male Child' is said to be caught up to God and His throne before the dragon/Satan can devour/kill him. The words 'caught up' translated from 'harpazo' means to be snatched up suddenly, force suddenly exercised. It is the same word used to describe the living church when they are 'caught up' to meet the Lord in the air and when Paul was 'caught up' to the third heaven and when Philip was snatched away from the eunuch. The word infers a sudden decisive snatching up or away. This did not happen to Jesus. For in keeping with the context, Jesus was crucified, buried and resurrected and later ascended to the right hand of the Father.

The 'Male Child" is a collective name representing the 144,000 Israelites from the twelve tribes, who will recognize Jesus as their Messiah, the first fruits out of Israel. This group is mentioned in Revelation 14:4 as those who will have not defiled themselves with woman, which would make them all males, ergo, the Male Child. This Male Child will be caught up to God's throne before the dragon/Satan can devour them. I would also go as far to say that, since they will be caught up like the living church, in the same way, they will also be changed immortal and glorified as well.

Q: What is the "Sun"?

A: Jacob

Q: What is the "moon"?

A: Jacob's wife or wives

Q: What are the "twelve stars"?

A: Jacob's twelve son's i.e. the twelve tribes of Israel

Q: What are the "seven heads"?

A: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. There are also seven kings. (Rev.17:9-10)

Q: What are "the ten horns"?

A: The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. (Rev.17:12)

Q: What are the "seven crowns" upon the "seven heads"?

A: There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. (Rev.17:10).

In opposition to the ten kings who will rule concurrently with the beast in the future, the seven kings are a succession of kings, where as John was receiving this information from the angel five of those kings had already ruled. King number six, referred to as 'one is' was ruling at the time that John was receiving this information.

Q: What is the "tail"?

A: The tail does not symbolically represent anything. It is meant to convey that the dragon/Satan is responsible for a third of the angels being cast to the earth, which is the original number who rebelled with him in their original fall. Satan and these angels will be cast to the earth in the middle of the seven years.

Q: What is the "third part"?

A: A third of the original angels who rebelled with Satan

Q: What is "of the stars of Heaven"?

A: 'He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him - (Rev.12:9). The stars are symbolic representing Satan's angels

Q: What is the "rod of Iron"?

A: It means that the Male Child/144,000 will rule with Christ during the millennial kingdom. This is also said of those who overcome within the church and the saints who come out of the great tribulation - (Rev.2:26, Rev.20:4-6)

Q: What is this "caught up to God and to His throne"?[/QUOTE]

A: This has already been mentioned above, but just like the living church at the resurrection, the Male Child/144,000 will be caught up to heaven as well. Below is the definition of the word 'harpazo' translated as 'caught up' or 'snatched up.'

Strong's Concordance
harpazó: to seize, catch up, snatch away
Original Word: ἁρπάζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: harpazó
Phonetic Spelling: (har-pad'-zo)
Definition: to seize, catch up, snatch away
Usage: I seize, snatch, obtain by robbery.

HELPS Word-studies
726 harpázō – properly, seize by force; snatch up, suddenly and decisively

No, the woman is not representing Mary. See Genesis 37:9-10 for her identity.

I remember when this entire verse appeared in the heavens exactly as it was written I made a thread about it but of course was shut down by many of it being a sign even though the evidence was as clear as glass.
The women I do believe represents more than one thing it represents Israel it represents the virgins in heart or pure in heart in the church it represents a prophetic guideline to pay attention to.
If I remember correctly this sign appeared three years ago if I am correct in my memory that number is important to pay attention to because the number three in scripture is a very holy and sacred number
And though it is not the subject of this thread the christmas star or as some call it the star of Bethlehem appeared on the 21st in december just one day after my birthday.

Again mostly my saying it was a sign if not the sign of the son of man which very well may be it was discounted.
Ever since my 8 years of salvation I have witness three major signs the first being the blood moon tedrads the second the sign of revelations actually appearing in the stars and planets the third being this star that we recently experienced, notice also the date this star appeared on the twenty fisst in scripture from my understanding 21 represents God dealing with sin and rebellion of man what year are we in now?

Now more than ever we need to dive deep into the study of bible prophecy we need to be aware of the signs we need to have an understanding of the history present and future of bible prophecy we need to listen to the voice of wisdom because we can debate and argue all we want on interpretations our held beliefs views and understanding doctrine and scriptural insights of bible prophecy but one thing is for sure this is not the time to be unaware of bible prophecy

Good day, Blain!

The woman symbolically only represents one thing, which is the unbelieving nation of Israel.

God gives us this answer in Genesis 37:9-10 by using the same symbols of the sun, moon and stars and identifying those symbols as Jacob, his wife and his son's. Therefore, the woman as a whole represents the nation Israel.

The fact that the woman is going to flee out into the wilderness, would do away with multiple meanings. Otherwise you would have virgins as the church fleeing out into the Judean wilderness as well.

The woman fleeing out into the wilderness is synonymous with the following:

"So when you (Israel) see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ described by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop come down to retrieve anything from his house. And let no one in the field return for his cloak.

So, when the sacrifices are stopped and the abomination is set up in the holy place within the temple, which takes place in the middle of the seven years, this is when Israel is to flee out into the wilderness. This time line matches the woman/Israel fleeing out into the wilderness where she will be cared for 1260 days, which in 30 day month increments is referring to that last 3 1/2 years.

The woman represents the unbelieving nation of Israel and nothing else. The Male Child that she gives birth to is a collective name representing the 144,000 believing Israelites who will come out of the unbelieving nation of Israel, ergo, gives birth to.

No, I do not believe "the woman" is "Mary".


Revelation 12:6 -

"And the woman fled into the wilderness, where God had prepared a place for her to be nourished for 1,260 days."


Revelation 12:14 -

"But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle to fly from the presence of the serpent to her place in the wilderness, where she was nourished for a time, and times, and half a time."


I believe this is at the MID-trib-to-END-trib time-slot, and parallels Matthew 24:16-21 -

16 then those in Judea, let them flee to the mountains; 17 the one on the housetop, do not let him come down to take anything out of his house; 18 and the one in the field, do not let him return back to take his cloak.

19 And woe to those having in womb, and to the ones nursing infants in those days! 20 But pray that your flight might not be in winter, nor on a Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, and never shall be.



Revelation 12:13 says,

"And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth [that's MID-trib, with 1260 days remaining until Christ's RETURN to the earth], he persecuted the woman who had brought forth the male [G730 - arsena / arren]" (this means that she "had brought forth the male" at some point PRIOR TO this MID-point in the trib, but that at MID-trib is when she "FLED" ['FLEE']).


My understanding is that this "the male [G730; v.13]" / "the man child" is "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" who had been "caught UP" PRIOR TO the FIRST SEAL (way back before the ENTIRE [7] trib years commenced).

I realize my viewpoint is in minority, but I'm not the only one to hold this view... = )

Here's a very brief listing of those holding the view that "the man child" of Rev12 is "the Church [which is His body]" (which viewpoint I am also inclined toward believing as well), fairly certain there were [/are] more:

William Kelly (1870)

Charles Stanley (1800s [NOT the guy in Atlanta today = D ])

CH Mackintosh (1800s)

William E Blackstone (1904)

Harry A Ironside (1919)

Geneva Study Bible notes (?)

Dr Michael Svigel (DTS, 2014)


Oh, and this guy too:


Anglican Rector of Midleton and Canon of Cloyne, Chester wrote in his expansive 1882 work Old Testament Light on New Testament Prophecy:

"Now if the male Man-child of Rev. xii. is to be regarded as solely representing the Lord Jesus Christ ascended into the heavens, as some interpreters affirm; or as representing the visible Christian Church exalted into political power, as taught by others, it were not easy to establish any parallelism, or any correspondence whatsoever between Zech. iii. and Rev. xii. But if the Man-child represents, as is the belief of many students of prophecy, the entire body of “the dead in Christ” raised, and the living in Christ who shall be changed, and both together caught up to meet Him in the air—or if, as I have suggested in the article above referred to—he is to be rather regarded as a portion of the Jewish people—of 'the remnant according to the election of grace' incorporated by conversion to Christ into the Church of this dispensation—and thus 'brought forth'—'born again,'—and then, 'caught up to God and to His throne,' in the rapture of the risen and living saints of 1 Thess. iv.—then, in either of these cases, I submit that this vision of Zechariah iii. corresponds most accurately."

The Woman = Israel, the CODE is found in Gen. 37:9 as Ahwatukee points out. The reason it's called a SIGN IN Heaven is because the Designated Beast in this chapter is Satan, who is still in Heaven. Thus the 7 Crowns designate the Red Dragon/Satan as the Ruler of all earth as per his birthright we gave over unto him by sinning and following him. We can see this in Luke 4 where he tells Jesus to worship him and he will give all these kingdoms of the whole world over into him, so Satan is over ALL THE EARTH, and the 7 Crowns only = 7 Kingdoms whole ruled over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region on each side of the Church Age. The Crowns in Rev. 13 are on the 10 horns because the Anti-Christ rules from Europe, his base. The 10 stands for completeness, and thus 10 means all Europe which was fractured and could not come back together as one for many years, thus the Iron and Clay symbolism. Even with the seed of men (Royal Marriage), they could not accomplish this, but the Little Horn is born amidst the 10 (in Greece).

The Male child is Jesus, who of course will eventually rule with a rod of iron.

The Sun = Jacob, the Moon = Rachel and or Leah.

The 12 Stars = the 12 tribes of Israel.

The Seven Heads = Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, AND the coming Anti-Christ.

I explained the 10 and what the CROWNS MEAN. The Crowns DESIGNATE who is being spoken of, in Rev. 12 it's about Satan the Dragon, in Rev. 13 it's about the Anti-Christ, thus the crowns are on the 10 Horns of Europe. In Rev. 17 there are NO CROWNS, that's because Apollyon has NO KINGDOM on this earth, he is under Satan in the Spirit world, and he's not human, thus his only Kingdom is the Bottomless Pit. Thus as per the 7 Beasts with 10 Horns of the Mediterranean Sea Region, he has no crown there, he just a Demon Satan appoints as aa Principality over the Region, one whom God placed in the pit for nigh 2000 years until the 1st Woe frees him. Thus Apollyon is the Scarlet Colored Beast.

1/3 of the Angels followed Satan, so the tail paints a picture of them following their leaders "TAIL" so t speak.

THE Stars of Heaven as Job described them were Angels in many cases.

Jesus of course goes to Heaven, offers the perfect sacrifice, then returns with the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Good day, Rondonmon!

The woman is not a real would, but is symbolically representing Israel.

The woman being pregnant is not a real pregnancy, but is symbolically representing 144,000 believing Israelites coming out of the unbelieving nation of Israel.

The dragon is symbolic representing Satan

Since the woman being pregnant and giving birth are symbolic in meaning, this would demonstrate that her giving birth cannot be referring to Jesus' literal birth.

In addition, the Male Child is said to be 'caught up' to God and His throne. As I described in the previous post, the word 'harpazo' means a force suddenly exercised, a snatching up. That said, Jesus was not snatched up in the sense of that word. In keeping with the context, Jesus would have been devoured, where the Male Child was not, but was caught up to God's throne before He could do that. It wasn't until later that Jesus ascended to God's right hand, which is not the description of 'harpazo.'

There are three groups who are said will rule with and iron scepter:

1). Jesus: And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter - Revelation 19:15

2). Overcomers within the Church: And to the one who overcomes and continues in My work until the end, I will give authority over the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter and shatter them like pottery"

3). The Male Child/144,000: And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter - Rev.12:5

Note: Remember, the woman is not literally giving birth, therefore it is not speaking about the literal birth of Jesus. Everything that is happening in Revelation 12 are future events which take place after the church been gathered.

All that said, the Male Child is a collective name symbolically representing the 144,000 Israelite believers who come out of the unbelieving nation of Israel, ergo, Israel gives birth to the 144,000.

Jesus as the Male Child is a common knee-jerk reaction because of the reference to Israel as the woman giving birth. However, they forget about the fact that everything described in that chapter, the woman, the dragon, the Male Child, are all symbolism. Simply put, if the woman is not a literal woman, then her pregnancy is not a literal pregnancy and neither is the child she gives birth to literal.

The Male Child = 144,000 who come out of (gives birth to) the unbelieving nation of Israel