Nature of man --- a different biblical perspective worth considering ( part 1)

this could be interpreted in two ways:

1. that on day 6 both Adam & Woman ((later renamed Eve)) were created
2. that Adam was created on day 6, and the comment '..and female' is parenthetically affirming that God made both the male and the female human -- not just one & not the other

if both Adam & Woman were made on day 6, then all of Genesis 2:7-32 takes place in the middle of Genesis 1:27
i.e. Adam names every living soul on earth in a single day ?? long day, erm, "yom"

however does Genesis 2:1-6 indicate that planting Eden, taking Adam and placing him in the garden, bringing all the living souls to him to name, and then creating Woman -- is it indicated that all this takes place either on or after the 7th day?

hmmmm

You made that up.
If you don't get real,nobody is going to respect your view.

The only way "adam could not sin" is for God to make him a robot.

His choice was established /ability to choose ,when God commanded him not to eat of the tree.
To eat/not eat.
The devil has always helped men to sin.

All you are seeing in Adam sinning is his ability to sin.
That is all.
Unless you also can see that FROM THE START man has an obsession with the forbidden.

NOT..."adam could not sin"

Just watch......somehow that dynamic is some foundation for yet another false doctrine[/QUOTE] Are you placing limitations on God's supreme power and nature. I do not agree with you on the robot thing. There is nothing impossible for Him to do.

Yes, his choice was established when God commanded him not to eat of the tree. I agree with you and I know I have not said otherwise. This command and choice came into effect after the separation.

I maintain my earlier stand that the man who was made in God's image and likeness, whom God made male and female and called Adam was incapable of sinning.

also of note:

in a literal translation of this verse, Adam ((the man, him)) is singular.
a male and a female ((them)) is plural.

so this isn't written as if it's two aspects of a single person, later separated from each other -- it's written as if a male and a female are two distinct individuals. right?



i don't know whether i completely agree with your perspective on this @infinitekhanol but it's a really interesting topic to think about; thanks for making the thread

For me, when looking at the nature of man from the standpoint of the scripture, I do not think the day he was made has much bearing on his nature, so, I do not pay much attention to it, at least for now. Hence, I cannot answer your question.

tho i may sound like it, i'm not trying to grill you; the topic brings up a thousand questions in my mind and i'm just expressing a couple of them

so it's OK you don't have some ready answer, i mean, who does?? neither of us is everyone's teacher.
but it's part of where my thinking is going while i mull over all these things.

Wow I mean wow

we can live sinless?

i think John never get the memo

if we claim to be without sin WE DECEIVE OURSELVES and there IS NO TRUTH in us.

saying you can be sinless is not just a cult, it a lie

if Adam was “incapable” of sin

1. God was wasting his time putting the forbidden tree there to tempt him, because he could not be tempted
2. Adam never would have sinned
3. we would still have a perfect earth living in a perfect state

Thank you too for maintaining an open mind throughout your discussion and for enlightening me on the likely questions that could come up in discussions of the topic. I appreciate.

Maybe if you compare Genesis 5:1 with what you have tabled above, it might help. I know people use that to refer to Adam as a generic name for mankind. I have a different view. I know the Holy Spirit will always guide us all to all truth if we remain steadfast and sincere. Thanks for chatting with me

Could someone direct me to a tall glass of understanding....the o.p said Adam was spirit.
How could a being made from dirt flesh and bone be spirit?
I gots to know😕😕😕