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It is almost the majority on this site who cannot discuss scripture without trying to shoot others down with words. They don't discuss scripture but hurl mean words at anyone who does not agree with them.
Jesus told us not to try shooting mean words at others, even to calling them a fool. I have even read posts calling someone a devil, saying they were a fool would be mild.
I wish sponsors of this site would stop such tactics, but even those in authority on this site joins in becoming an enemy instead of discussing issues.
Jesus told us not to try shooting mean words at others, even to calling them a fool. I have even read posts calling someone a devil, saying they were a fool would be mild.
I wish sponsors of this site would stop such tactics, but even those in authority on this site joins in becoming an enemy instead of discussing issues.
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well, I never said Jesus broke the law. in fact, just the opposite
you can go to the back of the class
imagine a person can insert themself into a thread, totally misread it but decide they need to teach others the truth when they have missed the truth being presented
oh wait. we don't have to imagine
you can go to the back of the class
imagine a person can insert themself into a thread, totally misread it but decide they need to teach others the truth when they have missed the truth being presented
oh wait. we don't have to imagine
You are contradicting yourself. The title of your thread says "When Jesus broke the rules"
Even in what you have stated in your thread implies that you believe that Jesus broke the law.
Prior to even writing this thread, you said that you were going to create a thread about when Jesus broke the rules.
The bible is not an easy book to understand and we have all misunderstood certain parts of scripture and have learned later on that we were incorrect. You are not the only one who has misinterpreted the bible.
It is better to say that you was wrong about what you initially believed and you have repented.
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Yes, God's laws are now written on our hearts with the blood of Jesus. Jesus who is the perfect example of living in obedience to God's laws.
Hebrews 8 (ESV)
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Hebrews 8 (ESV)
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
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you have obviously not thread
you are completely skewed on your opinions of what I said
if you cannot be bothered to read the thread, because it does not say anything about Jesus being a sinner, then kindly refrain from trying to condemn the thread
this is exactly what you should do. I have been here for years and you just arrived in June. If I had heretical beliefs they would banned me a long time ago
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what are you even talking about?
this is not a thread about law
Jesus is the end of the law. His work is finished. the 10 commandments were summed up by Jesus when He said love God and love your neighbor
we now have the Holy Spirit indwelling us and the law was only a shadow of what was to come...God's plan of restoration to all of mankind through the blood of His Son
people who are focused on the law cannot be focused on salvation at the same time
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MY POST AGAIN FROM PAGE 2 OF THIS THREAD, # 38
I would agree that the law was not written for some to condemn others. the law was given for this reason:
19Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator is unnecessary, however, for only one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, then, opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come from the law. 22But the Scripture pronounces all things confined by sin, so that by faith in Jesus Christ the promise might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
Galatians 3
further:
10 For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. 2 Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins? 3 But in these sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
so we see from scripture the law was never meant to be the end or to create perfection as no human being has ever been able to keep all of it, hence the thousands of animals slaughtered as sacrifices for sins committed
I would agree that the law was not written for some to condemn others. the law was given for this reason:
19Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator is unnecessary, however, for only one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, then, opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come from the law. 22But the Scripture pronounces all things confined by sin, so that by faith in Jesus Christ the promise might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
Galatians 3
further:
10 For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. 2 Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins? 3 But in these sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
so we see from scripture the law was never meant to be the end or to create perfection as no human being has ever been able to keep all of it, hence the thousands of animals slaughtered as sacrifices for sins committed
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HERE IS A POST FROM ANOTHER MEMBER WHO UNDERSTOOD THE THREAD
Tararose, post: 4398304, member: 301878"]Jesus did not actually break the law of God - in this instance or any other.
They wanted to Trick Him. Had he stoned her or Said ok stone her, he would have actually broken the law.... of course if he had said let her go free it would also have appeared he was breaking the law of Moses. This was because of how they presented Their question, very cunningly- or so they thought. Jesus as usual answered the matter of their hearts and showed mercy - all
Without breaking one letter of the law of God.
Here we see the actual law in question.
Deuteronomy 22:22-24
“If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel. “If there is a betrothed virgin, and a man meets her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbor's wife. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.
Without the man she was committing the offence with, there was simply no evidence of their claim and the requirement of the law was not met. Nowhere does it say It is ok to stone only one of the adulterers. If she was, as they said, caught “in the act”, surely the man had been right there with her. Why had they not brought him also to be stoned? This was a deliberate attempt to trap Jesus into saying something they could twist as Jesus speaking or acting against the law.
Basically they were pushing him to be seen to Let a sinful Woman get away with breaking the law, Or To be seen to break the law in stoning her without the man - without the required evidence and requirements of the very law in question.
He wisely put the ball back in their courts.
Jesus could not and did not break the law of God or He could not have been our sacrifice.
Tararose, post: 4398304, member: 301878"]Jesus did not actually break the law of God - in this instance or any other.
They wanted to Trick Him. Had he stoned her or Said ok stone her, he would have actually broken the law.... of course if he had said let her go free it would also have appeared he was breaking the law of Moses. This was because of how they presented Their question, very cunningly- or so they thought. Jesus as usual answered the matter of their hearts and showed mercy - all
Without breaking one letter of the law of God.
Here we see the actual law in question.
Deuteronomy 22:22-24
“If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel. “If there is a betrothed virgin, and a man meets her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbor's wife. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.
Without the man she was committing the offence with, there was simply no evidence of their claim and the requirement of the law was not met. Nowhere does it say It is ok to stone only one of the adulterers. If she was, as they said, caught “in the act”, surely the man had been right there with her. Why had they not brought him also to be stoned? This was a deliberate attempt to trap Jesus into saying something they could twist as Jesus speaking or acting against the law.
Basically they were pushing him to be seen to Let a sinful Woman get away with breaking the law, Or To be seen to break the law in stoning her without the man - without the required evidence and requirements of the very law in question.
He wisely put the ball back in their courts.
Jesus could not and did not break the law of God or He could not have been our sacrifice.
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