When Jesus 'broke the rules'

This question leads my mind to the story about the women caught in adultery that said according to Mosaic law, she should be stoned
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What Jesus did, after they tried to trip him up has always been a little baffling to me until, I heard someone else explain the verses in a different way.
Jesus pretended like he didn’t hear them and starting writing in the sand. Anything written in sand will disappear when the wind comes.

In a nutshell, the law was not written to point the finger at others wrongdoings, it was written for personal growth within.

As to why I do not trust the Talmud. It was these oral interpretations that probably led to such disconnect from the basics of the Mosaic law.

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first of all,
LEV. 20:10.
And (the man that commits adultery) with another man's wife, even he that commits adultery
with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
(((BOTH))) it takes (((TWO))) to 'commit 'ADULTERY'...

Jesus will not partake of this 'SHAM trial', because, one of the 'adulterers is MISSING, (the MAN)' (HELL-OH).
in first century Judaism, 'adultery' was a 'female crime'!!!
draw your own conclusion's...

Jesus was in the temple. The temple is made of stone. Jesus was writing (with the finger of God) on stone. No sand.
((Just like the 10 Commandments were written in stone by the finger of God.))

Just now, I am reading a book about resurrection accounts, and while explaining the historical circumstances, it cited Talmud "Any evidence which a woman gives is not valid" as beliefs of the Jews of the day, and Josephus confirming it. So Mary Magdalene and the rest of the women's testimony about the risen Jesus, according to the Talmud, should have gone down the drain and been considered invalid and a fabrication... women were not acceptable as legal witnesses in Jewish court, their views were very Muslim like in that regard.

What you profess is in conflict with what God says, that makes you wrong; it's heresy. The Sabbath was not an ordinance, it preceeded the law and is spoken of in Genesis. The Sabbath has nothing to do with works of righteousness hoping to attain Salvation...that's heresy.

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6Since therefore it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly received the good news failed to enter because of disobedience, 7again he appoints a certain day, “Today,” saying through David so long afterward, in the words already quoted,
“Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts.” Heb 4

8For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken of another day later on. 9So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, 10for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from His. Heb 4

11Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience. Heb 4

There are 4 witnesses against what you profess. And Jesus' quote is the 5th:
Jesus said, "I WILL give you rest."

It's future tense; Jesus has NOT YET given this rest. Hebrews witnesses with Jesus that the rest is yet to come.
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The Sabbath has nothing to do with works of the flesh in trying to obtain righteousness. The Sabbath is simply rest, as in not doing work, not doing your own pleasure, but drawing near to God.

The Sabbath is a day of rest holy to God and therefore also holy to His people. The Sabbath precedes the law, is not an ordinance, and has nothing to do with works; it's simply God ordained rest in Him.

God was not doing works of the flesh or resting from works of the flesh. To say that God rested from works of the flesh is absurd.

Take it to the Lord.

You've fallen into twisted Scripture. Seek the Lord on this because you are preaching heresy.

It's the Word of God that YOU DISREGARD in favor of your fanciful man-u-factured, made-up HERESY.

YOU PREACH HERESY. REPENT.

take a chill pill. your behavior is obnoxious. I created this thread for DISCUSSION and ideas. not for someone to come along and take it over and accuse others

par for the course though I guess. anytime someone brings something to the table that requires thought, someone comes along and screams so that the truth is forgotten

Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

I agree with you - the Pharisees didn't understand the reason because it's spiritually discerned. Sabbath was about finding rest from one's own dead works in God. All they could see with the carnal eyes was "don't taste, don't touch, don't do this on such and such day". They thought they were made for Sabbath, when in reality Sabbath as a holiday was made for man's sake to foretell the things to come. They didn't understand the reality Sabbath was foreshadowing when they saw it in Jesus, and were (are?) still clinging to a shadow form of godliness.

Regarding the table, there has yet been mention of the usual thread derail of food. Food for thought perhaps.

I'm thinking of lasagna with a side of Caesar salad.
Hungry? Me? Nooooo.

We just had pizza for dinner. It was scrumptious. I love lasagna and salads. Now, I'm getting hungry again.

For starters, this member is offering her own perception and is not at all preaching. I can't see a single thing that was posted by this member that is heresy. Only sinners need to repent, no sin committed here.

congratulations on causing this thread to go so far off the rails it may never come back

oh the Holy Spirit does lead us into all truth, but I have to wonder what spirit works so hard at calling others heretics when they either do not understand what is written or they have personally decided who is or is not a heretic

I won't be replying to you again

you are divisive and not at all helpful

one thing though

I never called Jesus a sinner

maybe if you actually read instead of blowing off the top of your head all the time, you would understand what others write

there is no heresy in this thread.

If that were true with regard to the woman caught in adultery, Jesus would have then stepped aside after he used his finger and drew in the sand stone, and let her be stoned to death.
He didn't. Instead he challenged her accusers that the first to be without sin cast that first stone at her.
John 8
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.[a] 2 Early in the morning he came to the temple courts again. All the people came to him, and he sat down and began to teach[b] them. 3 The experts in the law[c] and the Pharisees[d] brought a woman who had been caught committing adultery. They made her stand in front of them 4 and said to Jesus,[e] “Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of adultery. 5 In the law Moses commanded us to stone to death[f] such women.[g] What then do you say?” 6 (Now they were asking this in an attempt to trap him, so that they could bring charges against[h] him.)[i] Jesus bent down and wrote on the ground with his finger.[j] 7 When they persisted in asking him, he stood up straight[k] and replied,[l] “Whoever among you is guiltless[m] may be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Then[n] he bent over again and wrote on the ground.
9 Now when they heard this, they began to drift away one at a time, starting with the older ones,[o] until Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. 10 Jesus stood up straight[p] and said to her, “Woman,[q] where are they? Did no one condemn you?” 11 She replied, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you either. Go, and from now on do not sin any more.”]][r]

For starters, this member is offering her own perception and is not at all preaching. I can't see a single thing that was posted by this member that is heresy. Only sinners need to repent, no sin committed here.

Are you Roman Catholic?
I ask because prior to and after the Reformation, what are today called Protestants, Protest-ants with regard to RCC doctrine, Protestants were considered to believe in heresy.

Maybe rather than be so condemning and immediately judgmental of our brother/sister, perhaps consider they were not aware God's laws began in Genesis as did the Sabbath day of rest.

You can? Where? They tempke was so utterly destroyed Josephus states when he went after the destruction there was no sign it was ever there. We have many eyewitness accounts to this truth

So it is a law to work on the Sabbath? You would think that a Christian would know that any other Christian would tell of how the rule was broken so the law could be kept.

Have you taken Christ into your heart? Christ in the heart works for peace.