Immigration To The USA, Is There Evil Intent?

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USA Immigration History, Should It Be Repeated?

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Criminals 'in exodus from Cuba': US fears Castro emptying his jails - into Florida
  • Sunday 28 August 1994
THE UNITED STATES believes Cuba has started to release prisoners from its jails and suspects that President Fidel Castro is about to send them to join the boat people leaving the island for Florida.
This would immediately escalate the confrontation between Washington and Havana. During the last exodus of Cubans in 1980, Mr Castro created a crisis for the White House by sending criminals, drug addicts and mentally retarded people to the US.
 
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Maybe it is still happening. A couple weeks ago at work some big Cuban guy with tattoos clubbed a tiny defensive woman with a pipe and then took off running. Not sure if the cops caught him or not. He needs to go to prison and then deported back to where he came from. There are a lot of Cubans where I work and none of them bothered to learn to speak English except for a few that learned how to say good morning and an occasional thank you. Generally, they stay in their little cliques.
 
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Truth7t7 said:
USA Immigration History, Should It Be Repeated?

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Criminals 'in exodus from Cuba': US fears Castro emptying his jails - into Florida
  • Sunday 28 August 1994
THE UNITED STATES believes Cuba has started to release prisoners from its jails and suspects that President Fidel Castro is about to send them to join the boat people leaving the island for Florida.
This would immediately escalate the confrontation between Washington and Havana. During the last exodus of Cubans in 1980, Mr Castro created a crisis for the White House by sending criminals, drug addicts and mentally retarded people to the US.
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I agree with your post except the 'Mr. Castro' part. The guy was a real pig who got off on mistreating people. He certainly doesn't rate a "Mr." .
 
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Truth7t7 said:
USA Immigration History, Should It Be Repeated?

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Criminals 'in exodus from Cuba': US fears Castro emptying his jails - into Florida
  • Sunday 28 August 1994
THE UNITED STATES believes Cuba has started to release prisoners from its jails and suspects that President Fidel Castro is about to send them to join the boat people leaving the island for Florida.
This would immediately escalate the confrontation between Washington and Havana. During the last exodus of Cubans in 1980, Mr Castro created a crisis for the White House by sending criminals, drug addicts and mentally retarded people to the US.
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I think it depends if we actually need more immigrants for functional purposes. If so then what is that functional purpose? If the intent of allowing immigration is to do what the already present populace can do without them then the purpose of immigration becomes defeated.

If they claim it is purely for humanitarian reasons then they should be highly selective with who they allow in. If people are coming and placing unnecessary burden on the local, state, and national economies, increasing crime, reducing quality of life for others, then it isn't humanitarian.

The government is either unwilling or unable to stop immigration or there are ulterior motives. After eliminating all possible good motives there is a strong case to make for sinister intent.
 
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Is there evil intent? 1000% yes.

Large scale immigration is the exact same thing as war. It's happening in Europe. It's happening in the US.

When the muslims were raping and pillaging in Christian Europe a long time ago, there were certain people living in those Christian strongholds that would open the gates for the invaders to let them in. They were working against their Christian hosts. These people are doing the same thing today. Both in Europe and in the US.

Observe patterns. If reality doesn't match your preconceived theories, then your theories are wrong. Seek truth.
 
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Runningman said:
I think it depends if we actually need more immigrants for functional purposes. If so then what is that functional purpose? If the intent of allowing immigration is to do what the already present populace can do without them then the purpose of immigration becomes defeated.

If they claim it is purely for humanitarian reasons then they should be highly selective with who they allow in. If people are coming and placing unnecessary burden on the local, state, and national economies, increasing crime, reducing quality of life for others, then it isn't humanitarian.

The government is either unwilling or unable to stop immigration or there are ulterior motives. After eliminating all possible good motives there is a strong case to make for sinister intent.
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It's my opinion the current sanctuary states/cities are for future votes

I can't disagree immigrants are needed for farm work, how many American citizen's are going to pick crops? None

I believe criminals, drug addicts, mentally ill, etc are pushed to America's southern border, Fidel Castro isn't alone, George Soros or whoever was payment ng for the food and transportation?

I have always wondered how (7-Eleven) works out their employees from (India)
It's standard across the US, they maintain 80%+ Indian employees in California?
 
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It's my opinion the current sanctuary states/cities are for future votes

I can't disagree immigrants are needed for farm work, how many American citizen's are going to pick crops? None

I believe criminals, drug addicts, mentally ill, etc are pushed to America's southern border, Fidel Castro isn't alone, George Soros or whoever was payment ng for the food and transportation?

I have always wondered how (7-Eleven) works out their employees from (India)
It's standard across the US, they maintain 80%+ Indian employees in California?
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I know a lot of Americans who will do manual labor but either don't or won't because they are undercut by cheaper foreign immigrant labor. They can't compete with that. It's standard practice in the farmhand industry to hire/pay "under the table."

The H-1B market is cornered. If you research that you'll find that the people who originally came here under an H-1B visa eventually became citizens themselves and bought up franchises for convenience stores. Then they call back home to all of their family and friends, guaranteeing to hire them at their store in the US. They played the long game and still are.

Eventually more and more H-1B immigrants get here permanently, spread out across the land to start their own franchise, call back home to get their family and friends on board, then repeat the process.

You thought that was an accident or something? Lol, nah this was all coordinated. They had patience and played the long game. Now, a generation later, they own most of the convenience store market in the US.

Edit: and yes I agree sanctuary cities and states will be used for votes. If they haven't already granted those people amnesty then give them voting rights then it's coming.
 
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I know a lot of Americans who will do manual labor but either don't or won't because they are undercut by cheaper foreign immigrant labor. They can't compete with that. It's standard practice in the farmhand industry to hire/pay "under the table."

The H-1B market is cornered. If you research that you'll find that the people who originally came here under an H-1B visa eventually became citizens themselves and bought up franchises for convenience stores. Then they call back home to all of their family and friends, guaranteeing to hire them at their store in the US. They played the long game and still are.

Eventually more and more H-1B immigrants get here permanently, spread out across the land to start their own franchise, call back home to get their family and friends on board, then repeat the process.

You thought that was an accident or something? Lol, nah this was all coordinated. They had patience and played the long game. Now, a generation later, they own most of the convenience store market in the US.

Edit: and yes I agree sanctuary cities and states will be used for votes. If they haven't already granted those people amnesty then give them voting rights then it's coming.
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I fully agree the immigrants undercut wages in manual labor markets.

In California they hang out.in the Home Depot parking lot, 50+ every day.

Interesting on the India franchise game, same would apply to smaller hotels in the US

Vietnamese (Nail/Hair Salons)

Cambodian (Donut Shops)

Somebody has to be pulling the strings politically?
 
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I fully agree the immigrants undercut wages in manual labor markets.

In California they hang out.in the Home Depot parking lot, 50+ every day.

Interesting on the India franchise game, same would apply to smaller hotels in the US

Vietnamese (Nail/Hair Salons)

Cambodian (Donut Shops)

Somebody has to be pulling the strings politically?
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Yes, definitely. The government controls the quotas for the H-1B visa program. They know it gives jobs to international workers while citizens struggle with unemployment. They know that by creating diversity quotas and tax incentives for foreign workers only encourages businesses to not hire American. I think Trump is actually trying to reverse this.
 
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Migrants getting pampered are future votes. That is why Europe is doing a lot for refugees and economic migrants. Her own people have turned against the EU so the EU is depopulating her own people.
Most European people want to leave EU and let each country decide for its own.

So keep in mind, migrants are voters. The dumber they are the better for the system.
 
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Is there evil intent? Well, yeahhhh!
 
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Truth7t7 said:
I can't disagree immigrants are needed for farm work, how many American citizen's are going to pick crops? None
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That's a lame excuse for immigration. Today it is much more than illegal immigration into the US. It is migrant invasion with evil intent.

What is totally inexcusable is that given the history of bitter relations between Mexico and America for almost 200 years, not a single politician or president saw fit to build a proper wall along the southern border. And Trump's wall is not a wall -- it is merely a fence, and people have been known to scale over it. It also collapsed in some sections because of natural disasters.

And there are still tunnels which are being discovered under the border. Had a proper wall extended at least 50-100 feet both above and below ground level, with proper safeguards, the traffic in narcotics and humans could have been stopped altogether. And drones could be used to patrol the border 24/7 without risk to border agents.
 
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That's a lame excuse for immigration. Today it is much more than illegal immigration into the US. It is migrant invasion with evil intent.

What is totally inexcusable is that given the history of bitter relations between Mexico and America for almost 200 years, not a single politician or president saw fit to build a proper wall along the southern border. And Trump's wall is not a wall -- it is merely a fence, and people have been known to scale over it. It also collapsed in some sections because of natural disasters.

And there are still tunnels which are being discovered under the border. Had a proper wall extended at least 50-100 feet both above and below ground level, with proper safeguards, the traffic in narcotics and humans could have been stopped altogether. And drones could be used to patrol the border 24/7 without risk to border agents.
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You acts as if I support illegal immigration, (I Don't)

Migrant invasion with evil intent?

Wow, thats a brilliant analysis nobody would have thought about, sorta like Fidel Castro releasing criminals from Cuba to migrate to Florida? (y)

Your living in a vacuum thinking American Citizens are going to work the fields and orchards picking America's food.

A wall 50-100 above and below ground?

At a cost of $20 Trillion (y)

Your a good armchair quarterback, running President Trump into the ground every chance you get.

President Trump is a true American Patriot, A Hero!

He has went against all odds in battle against the Rhinos, Swamp, Democrats, Media, and still performed beyond his promises and many's expectations.

Trump/Pence 2020
 
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wow what a bunch of armchair priveliged forumers who dont live in the real world.

why do some immigrants ' not bother to learn english? ' because they were never taught it! Didnt grow up speaking it! Maybe they come to a new country to escape poverty and death!

maybe some ARE learning it the only way they know how by immersing themselves in your country! but why should they speak english to their own people when they can speak their own langauge fluently and not be made to feel like idiots?


I am amazed at your ignorance. How about get off your high horse and TEACH english?
 
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wow what a bunch of armchair priveliged forumers who dont live in the real world.

why do some immigrants ' not bother to learn english? ' because they were never taught it! Didnt grow up speaking it! Maybe they come to a new country to escape poverty and death!

maybe some ARE learning it the only way they know how by immersing themselves in your country! but why should they speak english to their own people when they can speak their own langauge fluently and not be made to feel like idiots?


I am amazed at your ignorance. How about get off your high horse and TEACH english?
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Ignorance?

Cuba's Fidel Castro emptied his prison and mental institutions and sent them to the US.

China has sent spy's, infiltrating every aspect of American society, stealing trade secrets in espionage.

Mexico, Central & South America has sent many criminals including drug dealers and murderers.

President Trump is stopping the evil, Merritt Based immigration, like most (Intelligent) not (Ignorant) countries do (y)

Make America Great Again!

Trump/Pence 2020
 
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Lanolin said:
why do some immigrants ' not bother to learn english? ' because they were never taught it!
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By 'immigrants' I presume you are referring to those individuals who migrate to the United States for the purpose of becoming U.S. citizens and not those who are merely seeking temporary migrant visa's to visit, work, or attend school, correct?

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I am amazed at your ignorance.
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It is a requirement for immigrants who lawfully enter the U.S. for the purpose of becoming a U.S. citizen is the completion of the naturalization process in which they are required to demonstrate to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) that they can read, speak, and write basic English In such, the onus to learn to speak, read and write in English is on those seeking to become U.S. Citizens, unless they are exempt.
 
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Your living in a vacuum thinking American Citizens are going to work the fields and orchards picking America's food.
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Of course not, the typical American worker is going to take the full-time employment versus seasonal part-time employment even if job has an average wage less than the average wage for the seasonal part-time work of $13.03 an hour. Migrant farm work isn't the only labor intensive type of employment in the labor market.
 
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I would think any country is vulnerable to intent of others if their immigration laws and security have holes that allow exploitation.
Germany is very strict with immigration prosecution. The refugee crisis is another matter itself. In many ways it is a crisis for the native peoples here more than it is for those claiming refuge.
 
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Lanolin said:
wow what a bunch of armchair priveliged forumers who dont live in the real world.

why do some immigrants ' not bother to learn english? ' because they were never taught it! Didnt grow up speaking it! Maybe they come to a new country to escape poverty and death!

maybe some ARE learning it the only way they know how by immersing themselves in your country! but why should they speak english to their own people when they can speak their own langauge fluently and not be made to feel like idiots?


I am amazed at your ignorance. How about get off your high horse and TEACH english?
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Lots of anger there.
What is privileged? Law abiding?
In the America I use to know immigrants expecting to attain citizenship status were required to speak and read basic English.They would have to prove it in their interview with immigration and naturalization officials when filing the N400 citizen application.

Most people abroad know English. There really is no excuse not to when living in a country that borders America. There is also a difference between those who claim not to speak the language and those who know the language but refuse to speak it. What person steals into a country and then claims to be too dumb to speak the native tongue?
In Germany some retail products are labeled in other language but not as a matter of mandate.
America seems to be the only country that is weak when protecting its self in these areas.
 
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