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Nehemiah6 said:
The Sephardim (Sephardic Jews) go all the way back to the Palestinian Jews at the time of Christ. They were scattered throughout the world since 70 AD. They would be a part of the twelve tribes of Israel. Even though the Ashkenazim dominated Israel since 1948, there were always Sepahardic Jews in the world. And Christ would have resembled them. "He came unto His own, and His own received Him not".
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This is true. Many have renounced Yahweh over some of their tribulations. But my Great Grandmother had a written Hebrew Tanakh to which she made my Grandfather read. He converted to Christ when he became an adult. He raised his own family believing in Christ and my Father raised us believing in Christ. We were sort of Messianic Jews before it became a thing.

As for myself, I was taught from the Hebrew, but I have always Believed in Christ as God. I don't even think about the Jewish Traditions because we never kept them since we were taught they all now represent Christ. And we have always believed that Christ was God throughout the entire Bible. Like He claimed to be in Exodus 6, as the Burning Bush to Moses, He said He was the ELOHIM (GOD) of Abraham/Isaac/Jacob and Moses called Him ELOHIM (GOD). And we knew He was I AM.

So even though I did walk away and spent time in the world, when I returned and rededicated my life back to God, I dedicated my life to ELOHIM/I AM!
 
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acts5_29 said:
Sorry to hear you are that intent on marginalizing a race of people. Let alone the race that Jesus was born in to.
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No, I am only stating the facts. By insisting Jesus was a Palestinian you are marginalizing the Jews, worse yet God's Word.
You never answered my question I asked you the other day, 'which Bible are you reading? The Koran?'
 
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No, you are marginalizing a Middle Eastern race of people. Besides, you are NOT stating the facts.

"Palestine's" word origins date back to the Philistines--which referred to the land back in 1250 BC -- more than 1200 years before Jesus' birth, contrary to what you claimed. It got renamed from Canaan...to Philistia...to Judea, by the time Jesus was born. Then, the Romans named it Palestina in response to not one but TWO Jewish revolts--the second being the Bar Kochba revolt, occurring 130 years after Jesus' birth, as you stated. The Romans did not want it named "Judea", named after the rebels. You will see in this source Herodotus plainly referring to the region as Palestine more than 500 years before Jesus' birth. You are quite wrong:
https://www.ancient.eu/palestine/

Now: are you truly, seriously prepared to go on record as claiming that all the people of one race just magically vacated the region and moved somewhere else every time someone decided to rename the region? And do tell: how is it possible that there was a SECOND Jewish rebellion in 132 AD, if all the Jews suddenly left the area in the Diaspora in 70 AD?

But yes, I get it. You are bound and determined to make God's Word "say" that He has an elite race, and that those Middle Easterners are all terrorists who are just jealous because they are not "chosen" like the Jews are. And let me remind you, if they were so elite, they would not have LOST those rebellions.
 
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acts5_29 said:
No, you are marginalizing a Middle Eastern race of people. Besides, you are NOT stating the facts.

"Palestine's" word origins date back to the Philistines--which referred to the land back in 1250 BC -- more than 1200 years before Jesus' birth, contrary to what you claimed. It got renamed from Canaan...to Philistia...to Judea, by the time Jesus was born. Then, the Romans named it Palestina in response to not one but TWO Jewish revolts--the second being the Bar Kochba revolt, occurring 130 years after Jesus' birth, as you stated. The Romans did not want it named "Judea", named after the rebels. You will see in this source Herodotus plainly referring to the region as Palestine more than 500 years before Jesus' birth. You are quite wrong:
https://www.ancient.eu/palestine/

Now: are you truly, seriously prepared to go on record as claiming that all the people of one race just magically vacated the region and moved somewhere else every time someone decided to rename the region? And do tell: how is it possible that there was a SECOND Jewish rebellion in 132 AD, if all the Jews suddenly left the area in the Diaspora in 70 AD?

But yes, I get it. You are bound and determined to make God's Word "say" that He has an elite race, and that those Middle Easterners are all terrorists who are just jealous because they are not "chosen" like the Jews are. And let me remind you, if they were so elite, they would not have LOST those rebellions.
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So now Jesus is a Philistine.
Tell me before I go further, which book do you believe is God's Holy Word, the Bible or the Koran?
 
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bojack said:
I think it means more like He wasn't like King Saul , a head taller that the rest and that he had to get 5 pounds of hair, haircuts every year .. As in Sean Connery wishes he wasn't so plain and looked like more me .. LOL, I believe Isaiah, just not the hear say from what I deem unreliable sources
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Correction to my post, It was Absolom with the 5 lbs of hair .. King Saul was tall and ''goodly''
 
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acts5_29 said:
Sorry to hear you are that intent on marginalizing a race of people. Let alone the race that Jesus was born in to.
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Jesus was a Jew, why does that marginalize anyone? That was his race.
 
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So now Jesus is a Philistine.
Tell me before I go further, which book do you believe is God's Holy Word, the Bible or the Koran?
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Okay dude, because you are so intent on this, I will play along.

Let's say you're right. You found me out: that guy named acts5_29 is actually a secret undercover Muslim agent. You mean to tell me that it is in fact the Muslim "terrorists" who are fighting for racial equality, while it is the Christians who absolutely insist on being racist? If I was one of those Christians, I would be embarrassed. Actually...no "would" about it. I am embarrassed. Very. I have literally apologized to non-Christians for behaviors like yours.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Jesus was a Jew, why does that marginalize anyone? That was his race.
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"Jew" is a religion, not a race. Again, you are marginalizing the Palestinians, who are of Middle Eastern descent. Jesus was a Palestinian, born to Palestinian parents. In Palestine. Christianity is a Middle Eastern religion. It is your injection of racist overtones to it--that is what is Western.
 
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acts5_29 said:
No, you are marginalizing a Middle Eastern race of people. Besides, you are NOT stating the facts.

"Palestine's" word origins date back to the Philistines--which referred to the land back in 1250 BC -- more than 1200 years before Jesus' birth, contrary to what you claimed. It got renamed from Canaan...to Philistia...to Judea, by the time Jesus was born. Then, the Romans named it Palestina in response to not one but TWO Jewish revolts--the second being the Bar Kochba revolt, occurring 130 years after Jesus' birth, as you stated. The Romans did not want it named "Judea", named after the rebels. You will see in this source Herodotus plainly referring to the region as Palestine more than 500 years before Jesus' birth. You are quite wrong:
https://www.ancient.eu/palestine/

Now: are you truly, seriously prepared to go on record as claiming that all the people of one race just magically vacated the region and moved somewhere else every time someone decided to rename the region? And do tell: how is it possible that there was a SECOND Jewish rebellion in 132 AD, if all the Jews suddenly left the area in the Diaspora in 70 AD?

But yes, I get it. You are bound and determined to make God's Word "say" that He has an elite race, and that those Middle Easterners are all terrorists who are just jealous because they are not "chosen" like the Jews are. And let me remind you, if they were so elite, they would not have LOST those rebellions.
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https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/jesus-was-not-a-palestinian-he-was-a-mizrahi-jew/
 
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kaylagrl said:
https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/jesus-was-not-a-palestinian-he-was-a-mizrahi-jew/
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Ah yes, says your source straight from the IDF:

Hen Mazzig is an international speaker, writer, activist and social media enthusiast from Tel Aviv. He served as a humanitarian affairs officer in the IDF's Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories unit. Twitter @HenMazzig.

Give me a break. Those guys are not even Christian. Maybe your religion (seeing as how you quoted it), but not Christian. Yet you somehow consider non-Christians a credible source about Jesus....
 
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acts5_29 said:
"Jew" is a religion, not a race.
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Judaism is a religion, Jew is a race of people. Google it.


acts5_29 said:
Again, you are marginalizing the Palestinians, who are of Middle Eastern descent.
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Why would saying Jesus was a Jew, which he was, offend ME people?




acts5_29 said:
Jesus was a Palestinian, born to Palestinian parents.
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Nope, he was a Jew.



acts5_29 said:
Christianity is a Middle Eastern religion. It is your injection of racist overtones to it--that is what is Western.
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Do not call me a racist!!! That is a vile and judgmental thing for you to say. You do not know me. Jesus was a JEW and that is fact. That's nothing against people from the ME. The Bible is clear Jesus is Jewish.
 
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acts5_29 said:
Ah yes, says your source straight from the IDF:

Hen Mazzig is an international speaker, writer, activist and social media enthusiast from Tel Aviv. He served as a humanitarian affairs officer in the IDF's Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories unit. Twitter @HenMazzig.

Give me a break. Those guys are not even Christian. Maybe your religion (seeing as how you quoted it), but not Christian. Yet you somehow consider non-Christians a credible source about Jesus....
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Christian?!! The Bible says Jesus was a Jew. Period, done over.
 
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acts5_29 said:
Okay dude, because you are so intent on this, I will play along.

Let's say you're right. You found me out: that guy named acts5_29 is actually a secret undercover Muslim agent. You mean to tell me that it is in fact the Muslim "terrorists" who are fighting for racial equality, while it is the Christians who absolutely insist on being racist? If I was one of those Christians, I would be embarrassed. Actually...no "would" about it. I am embarrassed. Very. I have literally apologized to non-Christians for behaviors like yours.
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Please answer: which book do you believe is God's Holy Word, the Bible or the Koran?
 
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acts5_29 said:
"Jew" is a religion, not a race. Again, you are marginalizing the Palestinians, who are of Middle Eastern descent. Jesus was a Palestinian, born to Palestinian parents. In Palestine. Christianity is a Middle Eastern religion. It is your injection of racist overtones to it--that is what is Western.
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Please answer: which book do you believe is God's Holy Word, the Bible or the Koran?
 
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acts5_29 said:
Ah yes, says your source straight from the IDF:

Hen Mazzig is an international speaker, writer, activist and social media enthusiast from Tel Aviv. He served as a humanitarian affairs officer in the IDF's Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories unit. Twitter @HenMazzig.

Give me a break. Those guys are not even Christian. Maybe your religion (seeing as how you quoted it), but not Christian. Yet you somehow consider non-Christians a credible source about Jesus....
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Please answer: which book do you believe is God's Holy Word, the Bible or the Koran?
 
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I find it very interesting that Poster acts_5:29 fell deafeningly silent since the question ...
"Please answer: which book do you believe is God's Holy Word, the Bible or the Koran? "
was directed at him...
 
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Jesus lineage was from tribe of Judah, making him Jewish. Judaism sprang from the religion the Judah tribe stuck with (which was extra biblical when they started adding their own customs and interpretations to Mosaic laws). Judah was just one of the twelve tribes of Israel. Collectively they are known as Israelites.

But the correct term for his group of people is Hebrew. This doesnt actually go by skin colour but the language spoken among groups of people.

Esther was able to not be seen as Jewish cos she was speaking the language if the rulers of the time. Just as Moses could pass off as Egyptian since he spoke Egyptian and was raised in an egyptian family. Even though esther may not have looked completely persian and Moses did not look egyptian they dressed the same and spoke the language and could pass. Although back then you could change the way you dress and how tanned you were, but you couldnt change the shape of your nose.

nowadays people can get plastic surgery if they really really want to, but a roman nose doesnt look good on everybody.
 
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