Not By Works

I sense that you are thinking I should be striving for more but you do not know me nor do you know my walk with God. He knows me and he leads and directs my steps. Yes, all is well with my soul...

Experiences can be deceiving. We don't know what went on in their lives at that particular moment. What we do have is the word of God, in black and white. Experience should be backed up by scripture first and foremost. That doesn't mean every story will play out exactly as it did in scripture, however we need to take experiences and stories of them in the context that they happened.

For what it's worth, while I believe people can be given visions of hell and the afterlife, I don't believe that anyone can actually go there and return.

Habrews 9:27

Who in the Bible is described as dying and going to heaven besides the man in the story Jesus told, that is, Lazarus, which some people think doesn't describe a real man anyway?

Who in the Bible is described as dying and going to heaven besides the man in the story Jesus told, that is, Lazarus, which some people think doesn't describe a real man anyway?

Then why would you claim a person in your position and belief may in the end, not be saved?

I don’t think that at all. I merely meant what I said. You are satisfied and that’s OK. Not many want to know God.

Yes experience


Yes experiences can be decieving and everything must be viewed from a biblical point.

Yes every story will not be similar to those in scripture.
I agree with what you said, but what should one do when the Bible is not explicit?

Do you believe that Lazarus rose from the dead?That is his experience, however, the Bible does not tell us wether he went to heaven or hell.

Hello mailman....

You are to follow peace.

It’s the command form for the reader alone to do.

Doesn’t say God is to pursue giving us peace. Says we are to do the action.

Same with holiness.

Hello and good morning.

There is no peace outside of God and His Christ......

BY HIS SPIRIT, again ,nothing in and of ourselves.....

Yahweh has given those who are His, His peace, to walk BY HIS SPIRIT, nothing we DO in and of ourselves.

Yahweh sets men apart (HOLY) to walk in HOLINESS, BY HIS SPIRIT, nothing we do in and of ourselves.

Who in the Bible is described as dying and going to heaven besides the man in the story Jesus told, that is, Lazarus, which some people think doesn't describe a real man anyway?

So you can be saved and do those things?

john tells us we who are born of god can’t live in sin, whoever lives in sin has never seen or known God
I am actually suprised you think that person was ever saved,

So I am going to heaven if I am saved but found guilty of being a serial killer and don't even care about my actions? If yes please provide me with scripture so I can do thorough investigation.

I think that was my question

Answer my question adequately, support it with scriptures.

Well I don know what semantics is but hopefully your not amused by the Bible when it says we should stir each other to good works.

Big in this context is very complicated but thanks for the tip. So every scripture that says good works you substitute with Kingdom of heaven so that you are not amused.

I wonder what happens to you when you read the book of Revelation because I see good works/ deeds mentioned a lot. You also laugh?

They are not in the Bible.

I confessed with my mouth and believed in my heart that Jesus died on the cross... but that did not automatically renew my mind nor did it help in changing my ways.
Some people only end here
Question: Am I really saved?

Every stage is crucial.

I read the Bible, my mind became renewed and my ways were changed through the power of the Holy Spirit.
Something terrible might happen to me on this phase of my life and I might suddenly resort to my old ways or even indulge in certain evil practices that I never experienced before. My conscience is now dead and I am no longer sensitive to the Holy Spirit until I die.
Question: Did I loose my salvation?


Then I repent and my ways are changed(that is before I die)
Question: Am I saved again?

Where is the preaching encouraging good works which the Bible tells us to do? All I read is we will (automatically) want to do good works although some admit this is a process (meaning some day in the future they’ll do good works when they feel like it (are changed.))

“Stir one another up to good works” not “discourage one another from doing good works for others trying to earn something” is the scripture.

I tell those who want to see God to obey Him. You preach over and over “works won’t save you” as though someone thinks they do.

To be honest with you, I just realized that what I said was not well thought out.

Let me just say that when we look closely at the lives of the Apostles, we can see an evidence of good works. They did not do as they pleased, even Paul talks about pleasing God. The good works were their present reality etc(Past, Present, future=salvation). However, they also struggled with sin, always praying to God to have victory over sin.

Yes sin was paid for at the cross, but Paul still prayed that God should help him. I believe everything in the Bible has the same value and we should not value something over the other.

The Apostles set a good example for us to follow, they inspire us to be like Christ. I don't see anyone who sought to be evil and their lives don't condone evil. They were people who loved God yet struggled with sin and always depended on God as their source for victory over sin.

Yes we are new creations by grace through faith in Christ but we should also become new creations through the process of being sanctified by His word. God works in us to will and to act according to His good purpose.

The only thing am confident about is that Lazarus died but I don't know if he went to heaven or not. I believe he was a real man.

you do

You just got some reason can not admit it