THE LIE IN LORDSHIP SALVATION THEORY

Can you point me to "them"? Do they live on the "other" side of town? We can't have them " lordship Salvationists" runnin around, praising the name of Jesus!!! We need to get'em all and destroy them forever!!!!

Nice verses, I've read'em before. But what do you have to say about what I wrote. You've addressed nothing at all to the point you can only be playing games now.

He's just going to skip right past what you say bro.

IS DEMANDING CHRISTIANS TO PROVE THEY HAVE SAVING FAITH WITHOUT STATING A STANDARD TO CHECK FOR COMPLIANCE, MEANINGFUL?
If you say works accompany salvation, its fine. But if you go beyond and say that works prove saving faith, then you have to state the standard of works required to prove one has saving faith or else the standard of proof for having a saving faith becomes subjective and arbitrary to each individual and eventually making no sense except blabbery.
(SUDAKAR) is scared of stating the standard for fear of being exposed he has not met the standard himself, and is looking like a hypocrite!

I don't need to skip past.

HOW DO LORDSHIP SALVATIONISTS ACCUSE OTHER CHRISTIANS HYPOCRITICALLY?
Lordship Salvationists are sinful according to the Lord's command in mathew 5:48 & yet accuse christians who commit sin as "unsaved"!!!
If they had turned from their sins they would have obeyed the Lord's command in mathew 5:48!! They call Him Lord Lord in order to be saved but they don't do what He said in mathew 5:48.
In order to be saved, they have changed their mind by lowering the bar of what lordship requires in mathew 5:48 to suit their degree of sinfulness. Their concept of lordship is "diluted" & subjective and not according to mathew 5:48!!
Anyway they haven't repented according to mathew 5:48 but according to a standard which they invent subjectively. That's phoney lordship.

I fixed this for you.

Okay, so your claim here is that you do live up to Mat 5:48? "You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.".

You are perfect as the Father is perfect? Is that your assertion here?

Let me repeat it if that helps you.


I don't trust in my works. Perhaps you might trust in works to prove your saving faith. So you must clarify if you have proved you have saving faith according to the standard in mathew 5:48 or hypocritically pretend to have saving faith by adopting a lower standard to suit your sinfulness.

Don't deceive yourself.

HOW DO LORDSHIP SALVATIONISTS ACCUSE OTHER CHRISTIANS HYPOCRITICALLY?
Lordship Salvationists are sinful according to the Lord's command in mathew 5:48 & yet accuse christians who commit sin as "unsaved"!!!
If they had turned from their sins they would have obeyed the Lord's command in mathew 5:48!! They call Him Lord Lord in order to be saved but they don't do what He said in mathew 5:48.
In order to be saved, they have changed their mind by lowering the bar of what lordship requires in mathew 5:48 to suit their degree of sinfulness. Their concept of lordship is "diluted" & subjective and not according to mathew 5:48!!
Anyway they haven't repented according to mathew 5:48 but according to a standard which they invent subjectively. That's phoney lordship.

You fixed nothing. I don't trust in my works. Perhaps you might trust in works to prove your saving faith. So you must clarify if you have proved you have saving faith according to the standard in mathew 5:48 or hypocritically pretend to have saving faith by adopting a lower standard to suit your sinfulness. Don't deceive yourself.

Does the Holy Spirit also remind you that you are disobedient to mathew 5:48? How did you respond?

HOW DO LORDSHIP SALVATIONISTS ACCUSE OTHER CHRISTIANS HYPOCRITICALLY?
Lordship Salvationists are sinful according to the Lord's command in mathew 5:48& yet accuse christians who commit sin as "unsaved"!!!

If they had turned from their sins they would have obeyed the Lord's command in mathew 5:48!! They call Him Lord Lord in order to be saved but they don't do what He said in mathew 5:48.

In order to be saved, they have changed their mind by lowering the bar of what lordship requires in mathew 5:48 to suit their degree of sinfulness.

Their concept of lordship is "diluted" & subjective and not according to mathew 5:48!!
Anyway they haven't repented according to mathew 5:48 but according to a standard which they invent subjectively. That's phoney lordship.

Premise 1: Works prove saving faith.
Premise 2: Saving faith saves.
Conclusion: Lack of works means no salvation.
Thus lordship salvation preaches the heresy of works based salvation. Simple.

IS DEMANDING CHRISTIANS TO PROVE THEY HAVE SAVING FAITH WITHOUT STATING A STANDARD TO CHECK FOR COMPLIANCE, MEANINGFUL?
If you say works accompany salvation, its fine. But if you go beyond and say that works prove saving faith, then you have to state the standard of works required to prove one has saving faith or else the standard of proof for having a saving faith becomes subjective and arbitrary to each individual and eventually making no sense except blabbery.
Lordship Salvationists are scared of stating the standard for fear of being exposed they have not met the standard themselves and looking like hypocrites!

Your false pet standard of lordship is non sequitur!!

That's self deception if you think you have saving faith.

If you are finally saved from the presence of sin only at glorification, you are lamely excusing yourself from having to fulfil mathew 5:48 to prove you have saving faith!

If works are necessary to prove saving faith, indirectly salvation is also linked to works. So it's meaningless for you to say works are not necessary for salvation. Don't pretend you believe in grace.