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Ricky78

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What gets my attention is how in the new testament, the religious Jews were trying to follow the letter of the law and then Jesus comes along and drops a bomb shell on the religious mind set of the day. He says stuff like, I am the bread of life and follow me ect. He corrected the Pharisees who thought they were righteous by following the letter of the law. He even told them that they pour over the scriptures thinking there is life in it, yet they rejected the one who can give them life.
 

John146

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I guess the fact no sacrifice things is throwing you for a loop. Because you refuse to (actually can't) answer
Why were they so desperate to rebuild the temple? Why was it so important if sacrifices meant nothing? Men built alters to make sacrifices when they had no temple.

Twelve tribes...what does this term refer to throughout Scripture including James?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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What gets my attention is how in the new testament, the religious Jews were trying to follow the letter of the law and then Jesus comes along and drops a bomb shell on the religious mind set of the day. He says stuff like, I am the bread of life and follow me ect. He corrected the Pharisees who thought they were righteous by following the letter of the law. He even told them that they pour over the scriptures thinking there is life in it, yet they rejected the one who can give them life.
Amen, And welcome!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Why were they so desperate to rebuild the temple? Why was it so important if sacrifices meant nothing? Men built alters to make sacrifices when they had no temple.

Twelve tribes...what does this term refer to throughout Scripture including James?
give it up john

Answer my question or move on.

I am sick of playing your games.
 

John146

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What gets my attention is how in the new testament, the religious Jews were trying to follow the letter of the law and then Jesus comes along and drops a bomb shell on the religious mind set of the day. He says stuff like, I am the bread of life and follow me ect. He corrected the Pharisees who thought they were righteous by following the letter of the law. He even told them that they pour over the scriptures thinking there is life in it, yet they rejected the one who can give them life.
Romans 10
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
 
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He cannot name one person here that peddles his bs accusation....just another diversionary tactic by another false teacher that peddles a fraudulent fake gospel!
I called you out by name.
I even copied the post for everyone to see.
Then asked several people if they agreed with you.
 

John146

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give it up john

Answer my question or move on.

I am sick of playing your games.
Every time it was destroyed, God had it rebuilt. When it was destroyed in 70 AD, there would be no need for the temple, for Jesus has become the high priest and sacrifice once and for all.
 
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This is exactly how you become your own final authority. When comparing the different versions and then you decide which one is best. Did God ever mean for man to have many different versions of His word, containing different words and different truths? This creates doubt and confusion. The devil is the one who wants to create doubt and confusion.
How can you decide which is the best version and it not be you making yourself your own authority, but when I do that I am making myself my own authority?
 

John146

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1 Corinthians 3:8-15 is about having nothing to show for your MINISTRY labors. It has nothing to do with having no works of OBEDIENCE.
1 Corinthians 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
 

John146

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How can you decide which is the best version and it not be you making yourself your own authority, but when I do that I am making myself my own authority?
If the version you are reading is in error, dump it and move on. A faithful witness will not lie.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I have but you’re not satisfied. Answer my question concerning the twelve tribes?
No you have not

You said sacrifice was required

I proved sacrifice was impossible for decades. And asked you how they were forgiven

You have not responded.

Your not getting away with this John, You do this all the time
 

John146

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No you have not

You said sacrifice was required

I proved sacrifice was impossible for decades. And asked you how they were forgiven

You have not responded.

Your not getting away with this John, You do this all the time
I explained to you, but you didn't listen or simply don't agree. God made a way for the temple to be rebuilt. Why? If faith alone forgave their sins. I showed many scriptures how those under the law had their sins forgiven. Should I post more? Also, altars were made in place of the temple to make sacrifices.

But you can get a way with not explaining the term "twelve tribes"? Please, explain what this term means throughout Scripture by using Scripture. Thanks. I imagine you're buying time, searching through commentaries to help you explain. But what you have found out is that most commentaries are wrong in their explanation...."Jewish believers scattered abroad during the diaspora in Acts 8...."
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I explained to you, but you didn't listen or simply don't agree. God made a way for the temple to be rebuilt. Why? If faith alone forgave their sins. I showed many scriptures how those under the law had their sins forgiven. Should I post more? Also, altars were made in place of the temple to make sacrifices.

But you can get a way with not explaining the term "twelve tribes"? Please, explain what this term means throughout Scripture by using Scripture. Thanks. I imagine you're buying time, searching through commentaries to help you explain. But what you have found out is that most commentaries are wrong in their explanation...."Jewish believers scattered abroad during the diaspora in Acts 8...."
so you can't or wont answer

Thank you

ps. Making a way for the temple rebuilt many years in the future does not answer why many people died with no sacrifice given while there was no temple.

If they died with no sacrifice, they died in sin, and dies lost..

You can not get out of this fact