Making Sense of Matthew 24

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Matthew 24 gives several views of the same events leading up to the end. Just as the Gospels give four views of the same events. I divided the passage accordingly.

Matt. 24

First division from the time spoken until end of world 1-14

“Now as Jesus was going out of the temple courts and walking away, his disciples came to show him the temple buildings. And he said to them, “Do you see all these things? I tell you the truth, not one stone will be left on another. All will be torn down!” As he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” Jesus answered them, “Watch out that no one misleads you. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will mislead many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. Make sure that you are not alarmed, for this must happen, but the end is still to come. For nation will rise up in arms against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these things are the beginning of birth pains. “Then they will hand you over to be persecuted and will kill you. You will be hated by all the nations because of my name. Then many will be led into sin, and they will betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will appear and deceive many, and because lawlessness will increase so much, the love of many will grow cold. But the person who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole inhabited earth as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:1–14) (NET).

Second division. The Great Tribulation, Jerusalem’s destruction fulfilled in 70 AD. Matthew 24:15–22

““So when you [present audience] see the abomination of desolation—spoken about by Daniel the prophet—standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those in Judea must flee to the mountains. The one on the roof must not come down to take anything out of his house, and the one in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing their babies in those days! Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath. For then there will be great suffering unlike anything that has happened from the beginning of the world until now, or ever will happen. And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.” (Matthew 24:15–22) (NET)

Third division; After Jerusalem's destruction (the Great Tribulation). Christian focus continues. Christian tribulation remains until the end. Matthew 24:23–28

“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe him. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Remember, I have told you ahead of time. So then, if someone says to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe him. For just like the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so the coming of the Son of Man will be. Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.” (Matthew 24:23–28) (NET)

Fourth division; Earth’s final days 29-51

““Immediately after the suffering of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man arriving on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. “Learn this parable from the fig tree: Whenever its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. So also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near, right at the door. I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. “But as for that day and hour no one knows it—not even the angels in heaven—except the Father alone. For just like the days of Noah were, so the coming of the Son of Man will be. For in those days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. And they knew nothing until the flood came and took them all away. It will be the same at the coming of the Son of Man. Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one left. There will be two women grinding grain with a mill; one will be taken and one left. “Therefore stay alert, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have been alert and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. “Who then is the faithful and wise slave, whom the master has put in charge of his household, to give the other slaves their food at the proper time? Blessed is that slave whom the master finds at work when he comes. I tell you the truth, the master will put him in charge of all his possessions. But if that evil slave should say to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ and he begins to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with drunkards, then the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not foresee, and will cut him in two, and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 24:29–51) (NET)

This is also in the Mark 13 and Luke 17 parallel accounts.
 
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This is a great audio on the origin of Dispensationalism from Kelly Varner. https://soundcloud.com/user-3967738%2Fkelley-varner-the-history-of-dispensationalism He als has a short 20 minute teaching on Daniel 9 which is connected to Matthew 24.
Lastly "Days of Vengeance" from Padfield online goes into detail by quoting from historical sources Hope it blesses you. It was very exited to learn this and see the greatness of our God through all of this :)https://www.padfield.com/acrobat/history/days-of-vengeance.pdf
 

iamsoandso

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Matthew 24 gives several views of the same events leading up to the end. Just as the Gospels give four views of the same events. I divided the passage accordingly.

Matt. 24

First division from the time spoken until end of world 1-14

“Now as Jesus was going out of the temple courts and walking away, his disciples came to show him the temple buildings. And he said to them, “Do you see all these things? I tell you the truth, not one stone will be left on another. All will be torn down!” As he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” Jesus answered them, “Watch out that no one misleads you. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will mislead many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. Make sure that you are not alarmed, for this must happen, but the end is still to come. For nation will rise up in arms against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these things are the beginning of birth pains. “Then they will hand you over to be persecuted and will kill you. You will be hated by all the nations because of my name. Then many will be led into sin, and they will betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will appear and deceive many, and because lawlessness will increase so much, the love of many will grow cold. But the person who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole inhabited earth as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:1–14) (NET).

Second division. The Great Tribulation, Jerusalem’s destruction fulfilled in 70 AD. Matthew 24:15–22

““So when you [present audience] see the abomination of desolation—spoken about by Daniel the prophet—standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those in Judea must flee to the mountains. The one on the roof must not come down to take anything out of his house, and the one in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing their babies in those days! Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath. For then there will be great suffering unlike anything that has happened from the beginning of the world until now, or ever will happen. And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.” (Matthew 24:15–22) (NET)

Third division; After Jerusalem's destruction (the Great Tribulation). Christian focus continues. Christian tribulation remains until the end. Matthew 24:23–28

“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe him. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Remember, I have told you ahead of time. So then, if someone says to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe him. For just like the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so the coming of the Son of Man will be. Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.” (Matthew 24:23–28) (NET)

Fourth division; Earth’s final days 29-51

““Immediately after the suffering of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man arriving on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. “Learn this parable from the fig tree: Whenever its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. So also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near, right at the door. I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. “But as for that day and hour no one knows it—not even the angels in heaven—except the Father alone. For just like the days of Noah were, so the coming of the Son of Man will be. For in those days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. And they knew nothing until the flood came and took them all away. It will be the same at the coming of the Son of Man. Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one left. There will be two women grinding grain with a mill; one will be taken and one left. “Therefore stay alert, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have been alert and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. “Who then is the faithful and wise slave, whom the master has put in charge of his household, to give the other slaves their food at the proper time? Blessed is that slave whom the master finds at work when he comes. I tell you the truth, the master will put him in charge of all his possessions. But if that evil slave should say to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ and he begins to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with drunkards, then the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not foresee, and will cut him in two, and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 24:29–51) (NET)

This is also in the Mark 13 and Luke 17 parallel accounts.

So then they ask him when that age would end(Matthew 24:3) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24-3.htm

Now then in (Matthew) 12:32 https://biblehub.com/matthew/12-32.htm it was told to them that there was a sin that would not be forgiven in the age that was coming after that one (one they ask him about in Matthew 24:3) ended.

Which age do you see yourself and us in,, an age where there is an sin that we cannot be forgiven of?
 
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So then they ask him when that age would end(Matthew 24:3) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24-3.htm

Now then in (Matthew) 12:32 https://biblehub.com/matthew/12-32.htm it was told to them that there was a sin that would not be forgiven in the age that was coming after that one (one they ask him about in Matthew 24:3) ended.

Which age do you see yourself and us in,, an age where there is an sin that we cannot be forgiven of?
Scripture only mentions two ages. This present evil age we are in and the sinless age to come in the New Heaven's and Earth.
 
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This is a great audio on the origin of Dispensationalism from Kelly Varner. https://soundcloud.com/user-3967738%2Fkelley-varner-the-history-of-dispensationalism He als has a short 20 minute teaching on Daniel 9 which is connected to Matthew 24.
Lastly "Days of Vengeance" from Padfield online goes into detail by quoting from historical sources Hope it blesses you. It was very exited to learn this and see the greatness of our God through all of this :)https://www.padfield.com/acrobat/history/days-of-vengeance.pdf
Varner is perhaps the best at cutting through the mind-boggling labyrinth of Dispensationalism. That leads the unsuspecting to a complete denial of Christ and his shed blood through third temple teaching.
 

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Hello DaveL,

I have read many versions of the Word, and I certainly recall having read, "The wayfarer shall cease, or will cease." I thought it to be in Daniel.

Using my autosearch, I cannot find it. Have you found it? I will try more...………..j
 
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Hello DaveL,

I have read many versions of the Word, and I certainly recall having read, "The wayfarer shall cease, or will cease." I thought it to be in Daniel.

Using my autosearch, I cannot find it. Have you found it? I will try more...………..j
“The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceases. The enemy has broken the covenant, he has despised the cities and the witnesses, he regards no man.” Isaiah 33:8 (AMP)
 

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And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole inhabited earth as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:1–14) (NET).
Let’s at least get the right words (You post a corrupt version. The NET doesn’t even make sense).

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

What does “and then the end shall come” mean to you?
 

JaumeJ

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“The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceases. The enemy has broken the covenant, he has despised the cities and the witnesses, he regards no man.” Isaiah 33:8 (AMP)
I have a bad or maybe good habit of associating end time prophecis with Daniel and Revelation, so my habitual pea brain must have done this again. Funny, Isaiah is the first Book of the Word I was given to read when the Lord brought me to a Bible.

I am not the best chapter and verse person, but I have read the all many times and in many languages.

Thank you for giving me the source of my comment, and now I hope others learn from your revealing it. These days I rely mostly on what people share in the Forums, mainly BBF. God bless you for this great help..j
 

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Scripture only mentions two ages. This present evil age we are in and the sinless age to come in the New Heaven's and Earth.
In post #3 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/12-32.htm in Matthew 12:32 Jesus distinctly speaks of an age as the one they were in at that time. Then he speaks of an coming age(one proceeding the age they were in when he spoke Matthew 12:32). In Ephesians 2:7 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/ephesians/2-7.htm Paul speaks of ages(plural) that also proceed the age he believed he was in at the time he wrote to the Ephesians.

In Matthew 12:32 Jesus states that in the "age coming" their is a sin that would not be forgiven and then in Ephesians Paul states that in the ages coming that he would show his grace and kindness to those coming ages. You are saying that there are only two in Scripture the one we are in at present and then an sinless age to come so do you see the one in Matthew 24:3 as having ended and us in the next and another coming or that we are still in the same age they were in in Matthew and Ephesians?
 
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In post #3 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/12-32.htm in Matthew 12:32 Jesus distinctly speaks of an age as the one they were in at that time. Then he speaks of an coming age(one proceeding the age they were in when he spoke Matthew 12:32). In Ephesians 2:7 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/ephesians/2-7.htm Paul speaks of ages(plural) that also proceed the age he believed he was in at the time he wrote to the Ephesians.

In Matthew 12:32 Jesus states that in the "age coming" their is a sin that would not be forgiven and then in Ephesians Paul states that in the ages coming that he would show his grace and kindness to those coming ages. You are saying that there are only two in Scripture the one we are in at present and then an sinless age to come so do you see the one in Matthew 24:3 as having ended and us in the next and another coming or that we are still in the same age they were in in Matthew and Ephesians?
The way I understand it, the present evil age began in Eden with Adam's Fall. And ends with earth's last day when the universe explodes in the fire according to Peter. The age to come = the new heaven's and earth where righteous remains forever.
 

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The way I understand it, the present evil age began in Eden with Adam's Fall. And ends with earth's last day when the universe explodes in the fire according to Peter. The age to come = the new heaven's and earth where righteous remains forever.

In the new earth and new heaven will some still blasphemy the Holy Spirit and not be forgiven and others be shown grace and kindness though they were dead in trespasses? https://biblehub.com/interlinear/ephesians/2-5.htm
 

iamsoandso

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I think it means they will not be there.

Be there in which age the one they were in in Matthew and Ephesians or the one that comes after that one ends? The age Jesus and Paul speak of as coming after the one they were in at that time ends/ended there will still be a sin that will not be forgiven and trespasses by some and them shown grace.
 
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Be there in which age the one they were in in Matthew and Ephesians or the one that comes after that one ends? The age Jesus and Paul speak of as coming after the one they were in at that time ends/ended there will still be a sin that will not be forgiven and trespasses by some and them shown grace.
I think they would be in this evil age. I think only believers are in the age to come.
 

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The way I understand it, the present evil age began in Eden with Adam's Fall. And ends with earth's last day when the universe explodes in the fire according to Peter. The age to come = the new heaven's and earth where righteous remains forever.
The gospel of Jesus Christ has been preached in all the world, to all nations and yet the end has not come. Hmmmmmm? Something doesn’t line up.
 
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The gospel of Jesus Christ has been preached in all the world, to all nations and yet the end has not come. Hmmmmmm? Something doesn’t line up.
I believe we are now in the last half of Revelation 20 so. I expect the see distress in the heaves and Christ's return any time now according to Matthew.
 

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I think they would be in this evil age. I think only believers are in the age to come.

I was thinking you saw only two ages and not all seven https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm if you did you would see that Jesus came in the midst/middle of the week of ages and then that there were three and an half ages remaining, two and an half days and then the Sabbath. I will follow along for now and let you resolve the ages in when they end and begin.
 
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I was thinking you saw only two ages and not all seven https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm if you did you would see that Jesus came in the midst/middle of the week of ages and then that there were three and an half ages remaining, two and an half days and then the Sabbath. I will follow along for now and let you resolve the ages in when they end and begin.
Scripture mentions only two ages. Dispensationalists create them out of thin air.
 

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I believe we are now in the last half of Revelation 20 so. I expect the see distress in the heaves and Christ's return any time now according to Matthew.
The last half of Revelation 20 has lasted some 2,000 years? But the Matthew verse says when and then...what’s up?