This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

Check this out, please. And thanks to EH for indavertently sending me down this rabbitt hole:

Italy - Population 60 million - 19,468 dead
Canada - 38.5 million - 653 dead

Singapore - 5.6 million - 8 dead
Malaysia - 31.5 million - 73 dead
Japan - 126.5 million - 108 dead
Taiwan - 23.8 million - 6 dead
India - 1.4 billion - 289 dead

Does something seem amiss? Over 20,000 dead in just two countries with less than 100 million total population....and in 5 others with populations totalling about 1.6 Bilion not even 500. It seems reasonable to me to think those of asian background may be less susceptible to Covid-19 than other populations. Maybe S. Korea's low totals aren't because of more compliant populations, maybe there's a genetic reason.

When drug companies conduct clinical trials they endeavor to recruit as diverse a patient population as possible because of genetic differences....both for efficacy and side effects.

A heart attack sometimes can’t be avoided it is not the number one preventable cause, there have been many healthy people drop from a heart attack some while jogging in great shape and health.

I’m still watching the Swedes under a relax mode there is still no major rise in cases or deaths, in another week or two if the numbers are still low I’d have to start questioning what going on really. Is America that unhealthy might be seems everyone is on meds these days.

You obviously do not understand the immune system and how viruses work.
Wow
Yes let's count the healthy people that die from a virus that makes a lot of sense.

Their case load in my opinion is largely reflective of the fact that (at least according to info on worldmeters) that they're testing at roughly half the rate of countries like Canada and even Korea.

Just and FYI and further proof that the Swede's have a lot on the ball, more than many other countries....rather than just pray that social distancing half measures and having some people stay home while thousands of others are out and about every day....instead of hoping for the best as we seem to be doing in Canada, they're doing even more to prepare....training laid off airline and hotel employees to assist in their health care system....as this article explains, not all jobs in hospitals and nursing homes require advanced training and education....this is brilliant.

https://www.thelocal.se/20200411/fu...PByuFraHB9RzTewHmiWagYtt8iL5XRqchw4Uafgzt0u04

It's a pity you live in world of fantasy and not the real world!

In the world I live in worship at church is banned...I cannot get on a plane or travel, or even leave my province, every financial pro is saying the economy is going to crash, worse than the financial crisis of 2008/2009....

You consider these realities to be part of some fantasy world??? Its my world....and there's nothing fanciful about it.

We’re all becoming more fascist but Canada is really racing there: https://globalnews.ca/news/6804626/coronavirus-police-verifying-quarantine-order/

From the nation that invented Big Brother. Not the reality show, the Orwellian nightmare. https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/uk-police-threat-to-shoppers/

Psalm 9:19-20 Arise O Lord; let not man prevail: let the heathern be judged in thy sight.
Put them in fear,O Lord; that the NATIONS MAY KNOW themselves to be but men. Se-lah.

Yea your right about that , lack of testing is probably the reason I think the deaths too are not being reported as related to virus.

I read that link on the airline workers doing other jobs, I found this statement to be interesting. IMO Sweden authorities know the numbers are higher not likely but their probably not reporting the true numbers to keep the population from freaking out.


More than 850 patients have died from the disease in Sweden and the country has registered around 9,600 confirmed cases -- although authorities stress this figure is likely much higher.

the first video in that thread, that guy could be Putin impersonator man he looks a lot like him.

I really think if people are comparing one nation to another in virus numbers they should probably use per capital numbers instead of actual. Sweeden, for instance, has about 10,151 cases and about 900 deaths and Georgia USA has roughly the same population and population centers and has 11,500 cases and 416 deaths. This doesn't tell anybody much of anything, but neither does comparing one country to another and certainly can't equate one's health and well being as better than another.

my cousin in NYC lives in a apartment and its overlooking the river and in the distance you can see the statue of liberty

so as far as I know its still there and hasnt been taken away.

so dont worry...americans you still have your liberty.

will pray for you anyway.

He was replying to Moses Young, not you.

I do not think America will collapse, at least not that much, but will bounce back, and it will take a lot of money to operate when there is a governing body in the world, and the nations are together as one trying to establish peace on earth, and they want to feed, and clothe the people, and take care of their needs, which it will take money.

The Bible says that no man can buy or sell except those with the mark so even though they are following the beast, man of sin, which the world only has three and one half years to go and God will put them down they still have an economic system in place where people are buying and selling.

So I am sure America and the world will bounce back.

President Trump said that America laid a path for peace and security for the world, and wants the nations to thrive and flourish next to each other, which he would like it patterned after America a governing body but the nations can still have their sovereignty like America operates.

In which America's vision is peace for the world.

Wants the United Nation to take a more active role in the world, and for the nations to step it up and work for peace.

Pushes for peace in the Middle East, and a peace treaty between the Jews and Palestinians.

United Nations headquarters, New York.

United Religions headquarters, San Francisco.

World Trade Center, New York.

On the back of the dollar bill, announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one, which it is obvious that America allows all ethnic groups, and religions to be in their country without persecution against any to show the world that all people can get along despite their differences, and they are equal.

So it is obvious what America wants for the world, but the nations will not come together for peace if they do not trust America, which many nations do, but the Arabs are stubborn and a few others but that will change for America will start looking good in the eyes of the world somehow for America will cause it to happen if it means the nations coming together for peace.

1 billion doses of the coronavirus vaccine to be produced by Johnson and Johnson and the US government.

Which testing will begin in September with the goal of having the drug ready under emergency use authorization by early next year.

Which Johnson and Johnson were working on a possible vaccine in January, 2020 using the same technologies it used for its experimental ebola vaccine.

America will probably be the heroes of the world as they pump out massive amounts of the vaccine to help the world, for that will probably cause the world to then go along with America for peace on earth, and if that is not it they will find something.

For America always wanted that plan for the nations to come together for peace but the time was not yet, but they went to war, and did things that may of not been right, and did not worry about it at that time and thought it was necessary to do it for their plan, and stalled the plan to push it more until now which they are ready to go for it to get the nations to come together.

America is ready to push forward to get the nations to come together, which they implemented it slowly for that is the only way it could be done, and not by physical force.

It is 2 steps forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, but they eventually get to their target.

You got to know when to go ahead, and when to pullback, when to relax, and know when push, you never count your victories while your on the way, there be plenty time for counting when the plan is done, tribute to Kenny Rogers.

And the nations will not come together if it is not good, for they would only come together if they can keep their sovereignty, and the governing body is not enforcing laws against them that go against their religion, traditions, and values.

I was thinking that maybe America collapses, or the world collapses that cause the new world order to begin, and the New Age Christ to start working in the world, but it might be when the 10 horn kingdom rules that they will fail at obtaining peace and then that is when the world collapses which then they accept the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace when he convinces them he evolved through the power of nature and became greater and spiritual.

And the coronavirus would not be the reason she collapsed or the world collapsed.

This virus is nothing compared to the spanish flu that had way worse symptoms, and they say it killed between 20 million to 50 million people, but some say 50 million to 100 million people, which I do not understand that big difference in what they say, but it was bad we do know that, and worse than any other plague that they know of, and killed more people that WW1 and WW2.

But they bounced back from that at a time when technology and medicine was not that advanced, and we have greater technology, and medicine now, and they say it will only be about 18 months if not sooner that we have a vaccine.

So the coronavirus is not going to collapse America and the world., and they do not want it to.

They want to start out with it being good and prosperous for that is the only way the nations will come together.

America was the nation that worked for peace in the world more than any other nation, has great military power, and money flowing through her like a big dog, and was a benefit to many not only in their nation, but in the world.

And America has to look good in the eyes of the world, and the world has to favor America in order for the nations to come together for if they do not trust America the nations will not come together.

And America wants the nations to come together so she has to operate accordingly to cause that to happen.

So America has to show the world that she did not turn over to a strict government like some people think Marshal law, and is still dealing with the people as they care about them, for if they turned to a strict government then the world will not trust her for then they would think America wants that for the world.

So America has to deal with it's people in a way that is pleasing to the world, for how America deals with it's people is how America would want to operate in the world, and how they would want the world to operate in which the world would never go for that operation if America went to Marshal law.

And the conflict and chaos of the coronavirus is not going to be the reason for them to go to a strict government for it is only the flu.

It would take way more than that for the government to go to Marshal law.

And America has to show the world that she is capable of bouncing back and recovering to show the world she has the power to overcome and help the world.

And when the world comes together it will be good, and they will prosper and people will be fed, and clothed, which people have said a basic allowance for the people to meet their needs, and people thinking it is wonderful.

But then it will turn bad and the governing body could not provide peace for the world, and then the world collapsed and they turn to the New Age Christ.

Which the Bible says when they shall say Peace and safety when the nations come together to work for peace on earth, then sudden destruction comes upon them.

Not before they say Peace and safety but when they say Peace and safety, so after they say Peace and safety then sudden destruction comes upon them which eventually causes the world to collapse.

So enjoy your life to the fullest and America will bounce back, look good in the eyes of the world, not crack down on the American people to keep that good image up to the world, so the nations will come together as one to work for peace on earth.

But then when they come together eventually it will get worse until they accept New Age Christ.

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Republicans and Democrats are working together the Hegel System which sets up 2 opposing forces which gets everyone involved for they will choose a side, and then brings them together.

President Trump wants the nations to come together but believes they should all have their sovereignty where they can keep their religion, traditions, and values, and not a governing body to enforce anything against that, which patterned after America.

It appears as if they are going to let the Republicans make the final push for they appear as being more for traditions, and values, and religion, in which the world would accept that, but the Democrats want the same thing.

Trump said that he wants to go after the deep state the bad guys in the White House, politics, which it would appear to be a plan to weed them out leaving only those who support Trump left in which the nation will then rally together for peace.

And with America helping the world with the coronavirus by vaccination for she has the money to produce it, and looking good in the eyes of the world, and their government now has the bad guys out and Trump wants peace for the world but the nations can keep their sovereignty, and they will prosper worldwide like they do in America then the nations would want to come together to work for peace on earth.

I know what America wants, but I am not sure about Trump going after the bad guys and ousting them, but it will probably happen for America has to look good in the eyes of the world.

But if they say they made arrests and got the bad guys out they will be hiding somewhere sipping on Pina Coladas, or some Jack Daniels, depends on their mood, and eating steak and lobster, and eventually saying we did it boys, we did it.

For they are looking for the kingdom to come so they do not care about looking like the bad guys, and none of them care about looking like the bad guy if that is what it takes according to their plan, but the time will come America can only look like the good guys for their plan to work.

So America and the world will not collapse and they would want the nations coming together to start off good and prosper.

But it is all a plan and that plan is to eventually get the world to accept the New Age Christ, and there is more nations that are in on it, but they are letting America do her thing, and Italy is sure in on it so they can escalate their problem too like America seems to be doing all the while they know it will be alright.

At least that is what I think that America and the world will not collapse unless they have more chaos planned for America and the nations to collapse but I do not believe they will collapse.

For when the nations come together the New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East but he does not claim to be God for three and one half years after that so there is no need for the world to be chaotic to accept him at that time.

So the world will probably collapse close to the end of the three and one half years, for when they say Peace and safety then sudden destruction comes upon them, not before it.

As far as a great depression America has way more money flowing through her than years ago, the government has way more money to help people, some small businesses may suffer but they will bounce back, and big businesses have so much money they made in profit that they are good to go for years upon years, and some of them are open still making money like the fast food restaurants, and Walmart.

i dont think God cares about 'the eyes of the world' what He really wants is people to humble themselves and pray, and swallow their pride. Nobody is going to judge you on what nation you happen to be born in when its comes to the crunch. There is room enough for all.

God said he will, forgive yor sin and heal your land. But if you keep blaming OTHER people for your own sin, Hes not gonna hear you.