This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?
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I am in ga., I can attest that most of the cases are in atlanta and a small town called Albany , where in Albany, there was a popular elderly person passed away, a lot of older people went to the funeral, there was a few folks there who had the virus, and, sadly many of the older people ( who the virus is most contagious and dangerous to ) got it and passed away.
I will also say this, my town, Athens , has about 90.000 people and 83 cases . we were one of the first in the state to lockdown ( mar. 17.)
This from a young lady on Facebook. EVERY word is absolute truth:
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.
People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddleboarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.
People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.
Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.
You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.
You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.
At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?
If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?
YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."
But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.
They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.
YOU ARE IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.
People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddleboarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.
People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.
Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.
You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.
You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.
At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?
If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?
YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."
But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.
They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.
YOU ARE IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.
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You ain't seen nothing yet.
Once government has usurped power they are loathe to give it back. Starting to feel like China. Soon we will need papers to prove we are authorized to move about. Health cards issued by the CDC? It could be right around the corner.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Once government has usurped power they are loathe to give it back. Starting to feel like China. Soon we will need papers to prove we are authorized to move about. Health cards issued by the CDC? It could be right around the corner.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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two things to consider, cognitive dissonance, and these people have built there foundations on the world, not Jesus Christ. They do not want to hear that this is the end. That would mean losing everything they value. No amount of evidence and facts would convince them, as they don't want to hear it
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Of all the activities I listed, it is worship I miss most....doing it digitally just doesn't fill the void I'm feeling. I always knew how much I enjoyed the fellowship that comes from congregating together to give thanks and praise, but I don't think I ever realized how much I really need it until now....
I know this isn't a unique experience in human history, nor in the history of The Chruch. In the first three centuries believers at times had to defy authorities and gather in secret. Isiah was for a time a hermit, but I am not Isiah....I'm a long way from being that close with My Lord.
I know this isn't a unique experience in human history, nor in the history of The Chruch. In the first three centuries believers at times had to defy authorities and gather in secret. Isiah was for a time a hermit, but I am not Isiah....I'm a long way from being that close with My Lord.
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Kissinger apparently sumarises it well. The vaccine is gameover. Once the people accept that they can be treated as cattle, they will indeed be treated as cattle, and not just with the vaccines.
I still wonder whether the mark of the Beast could be administered as or like a vaccine. Some say it couldn't be, as the Beast mark will have a worship component to it. But the arguments I hear from some defending government tyranny and vaccine "science" often have me wondering whether these people unknowingly worship the government, for they seem to rely on it as some sort of god-like entity rather than a necessary evil that should be minimised and held in check.
I still wonder whether the mark of the Beast could be administered as or like a vaccine. Some say it couldn't be, as the Beast mark will have a worship component to it. But the arguments I hear from some defending government tyranny and vaccine "science" often have me wondering whether these people unknowingly worship the government, for they seem to rely on it as some sort of god-like entity rather than a necessary evil that should be minimised and held in check.
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He was replying to Moses Young, not you. 
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the world of fantasy is thinking that ALL the government players are working for our good and not taking advantage of this situation to push things like vaccines on the masses while the media is terrifying them 24/7.
I like you, I think you are solid, nice Christian lady, but you need to open your eyes to what is being pushed during this time.
I heard one of the c.d.c. guys, I forget which one say " we expected a 50% following of our recommendations , but we think it is about 90%"
that should scare the pants off us. now they know, whip up a virus scare, and the sheep fall right in line...
I like you, I think you are solid, nice Christian lady, but you need to open your eyes to what is being pushed during this time.
I heard one of the c.d.c. guys, I forget which one say " we expected a 50% following of our recommendations , but we think it is about 90%"
that should scare the pants off us. now they know, whip up a virus scare, and the sheep fall right in line...
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That's the genetic logical fallacy (i.e. truth is still truth, irrespective of it's source), and I acknowledge that Henry Kissinger is a very evil man (Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader are just fiction). Such people as Kissinger can serve as what are known as hostile witnesses. If even one's enemies acknowledge something one claims to be true, it is a powerful argument that one's claim is true.
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You come home from a foreign country you stay home for 14 days during a pandemic
That is a law on the books for years.
The act is a temporary measure, been used before and interestingly enough is seems people were more law abiding back then.
Can we be rational here.
People were not staying home.
Governments are stupid and people are just as stupid... I take a balanced approach.
Sure someone comes back from China and they run around and everything and what was accomplished will be quickly undone that makes sense.
Unless you support herd immunity with a novel virus?
and @jb was right @Moses_Young post was way out there and not even grounded in any kind of reality.
That is a law on the books for years.
The act is a temporary measure, been used before and interestingly enough is seems people were more law abiding back then.
Can we be rational here.
People were not staying home.
Governments are stupid and people are just as stupid... I take a balanced approach.
Sure someone comes back from China and they run around and everything and what was accomplished will be quickly undone that makes sense.
Unless you support herd immunity with a novel virus?
and @jb was right @Moses_Young post was way out there and not even grounded in any kind of reality.
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Because I think a virus has to be dealt with I believe government? My undergraduate degree is in International Relations I think I know better than that.
However, this black - white approach that this a hoax virus, that does not really exist, and people are not really dying, and it is all a false flag is really just out there.
If the virus is real it has to be dealt with .. unless you support herd immunity which is a goal I suppose albeit a risky one with an unknown virus from a country that is not very honest.
I really do not know what you guys want, the government to sit back and let the chips fall where there may, and let the Communist Party of China come in as an ever more dominant force on the world stage which I am sure that is what they are after.
However, this black - white approach that this a hoax virus, that does not really exist, and people are not really dying, and it is all a false flag is really just out there.
If the virus is real it has to be dealt with .. unless you support herd immunity which is a goal I suppose albeit a risky one with an unknown virus from a country that is not very honest.
I really do not know what you guys want, the government to sit back and let the chips fall where there may, and let the Communist Party of China come in as an ever more dominant force on the world stage which I am sure that is what they are after.
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how about this- real numbers.
the media is hyping how our death rate is past Italy's , yet they fail to mention how we have almost four times as many cases as Italy has.
in my state, ( ga) there are over 400 deaths being counted as virus deaths, yet the vast majority is people over 70, with other conditions,
only about 15-20 healthy people have died from the virus in my state.
let me be clear- the virus is not a hoax, it is very real.
but, it is very clear who is at risk the most.
so, what I would say is this- make every effort possible to protect those the most at risk, then let the rest of us low-risk folks get back to work.
and, I do have doubts about the very contagious thing.
the navy ship that is in the news had 4,000 sailors on it, only about 600 tested positive for the virus.
85% of a SHIP not being infected does not say " spreads like wildfire" to me...
the media is hyping how our death rate is past Italy's , yet they fail to mention how we have almost four times as many cases as Italy has.
in my state, ( ga) there are over 400 deaths being counted as virus deaths, yet the vast majority is people over 70, with other conditions,
only about 15-20 healthy people have died from the virus in my state.
let me be clear- the virus is not a hoax, it is very real.
but, it is very clear who is at risk the most.
so, what I would say is this- make every effort possible to protect those the most at risk, then let the rest of us low-risk folks get back to work.
and, I do have doubts about the very contagious thing.
the navy ship that is in the news had 4,000 sailors on it, only about 600 tested positive for the virus.
85% of a SHIP not being infected does not say " spreads like wildfire" to me...
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