Is it a sin to drink alcohol

i see it says eat yes. whats your point about that? and whats the connection between the chapters?

deuteronomy 14:26 is opinion?

GOD SAYS you can buy WINE or STRONG DRINK, even if you think wine means grape juice, strong drink doesnt: case closed. how can you refute such a clearverse??

Deu_14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,

It say moderatsm alkohol drinking

Melach, I'm guessing they think "strong drink" is chocolate milk

By the way, all one has to do is research the origin of Welch's grape juice to see that there are problems with their assertion. Grape juice could not be kept until modern canning techniques developed in the 1800's.

And, you are right..it's the product of women leading men around by their dress strings. This is especially true in charismatic/Pentecostal/free-willer circles.

i love you too bro and all is going good praise God in all states. and you know i didnt know that about grape juice. that doctrine is so ridicilous really. modernized christianity. people are more pastorally concerned than Jesus now? Jesus made wine and wasnt worried

What percentage of alchohol? I know of a moderate drinker who drank beer. He had to stop due to gaining too much weight and blood pressure.

What percentage of alchohol? I know of a moderate drinker who drank beer. He had to stop due to gaining too much weight and blood pressure.

Those who know the English language, and use it rightfully so, disagree with you, in mathematics, debate, logic, rhetoric, science, medicine, politics, etc:

And so on. If you cannot even manage that correctly, how shall we trust anything you say upon "alcohol" (Arabic origins) and matters scripture?

Not at all, as I said (which you decidedly did not cite),

I asked if any desired to see that study. Instead of answering they decided to go to a scripture which they thought teaches what they practice. I disregarded nothing. It was already answered before they ever said a word and I asked them if they wanted to see such. Their silence was deafening.

God's word has much to say about the consumption of fermented and unfermented wine. In ancient times wine could be fermented grape juice mixed with water, thus making it somewhat diluted. Fermented wine could also be made without adding water and making it more intoxicating. The Bible often describes this type of wine as "strong drink". Without question the Bible condemns drinking to the point where a person is drunk. As Christians we are commanded to not let our bodies be enslaved by anything (1 Corinthians 6: 12) and getting drunk with alcohol would certainly fall under this category. Christians should not do anything that hinders the Holy Spirit's influence on us. A person who consumes alcohol to the point where they are drunk has let the alcohol influence their decision making instead of being "filled by the spirit". Alcohol by itself is not tainted by sin, it is the drunkenness and addiction to it that a Christian must absolutely stay away from. Scripture does not forbid Christians from drinking beer, wine, or anything else containing alcohol in it. As a matter of fact, there are times the Bible speaks of alcohol in a positive light.

Ephesians 5:18 "be not drunk with wine where in excess; but be filled with the Holy Spirit." This passage of scripture is warning us to not be "drunk" or drinking to the point where it is to much or "excess". Drinking to much leads to intoxication, which leads to bad decisions. God wants us to be filled by the Holy Spirit which leads and guides us into making better decisions in life.

Exodus 32:6-7 The people were so intoxicated with wine that the Lord said, "they have corrupted themselves."
Proverbs 20:1 "Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, and whoever is led astray by it is not wise." To be led astray is to be led by the intoxication of wine, where God wants us to be lead by the Holy Spirit.

Proverbs 31:4-7 verse 4 says that it is not for kings to drink wine. If the king is drunk and is under its influence, he may forget the law, his morals, or himself. A drunken king will use bad judgement when making important decisions concerning his kingdom. A king who stays drunk all the time cannot lead his people or country. Now notice in verse 6 this passage is actually giving permission to drink intoxicating wine. "strong drink" to those who are about to die and may need it for pain and "wine" who have a heavy heart and is afflicted with anxiety, nervousness, or something troubling them emotionally.

Final thoughts
It is incorrect to say that wine in the Bible was just simply grape juice, but equally incorrect to say that wine was fermented the same as modern day. It has been clinically proven that a glass of red wine soothes the stomach. The drunken state is what the Bible most warns about. The fact is, many people have a problem with having just "one glass" of red wine and want to keep going until it is too late. They become enslaved by the alcohol and do and say things they normally wouldn't. For these people it is a good idea to stay completely away from any kind of alcohol beverage. Keep in mind, back in ancient times the water was not very clean. Without modern sanitation, the water was filled with bacteria, viruses, and all kinds of contaminants. It is still true today in some third world countries where immediately after you step off an airplane they tell you not to drink the water! Regarding alcohol and its effects it has on people, the easy temptation to consume more than one can handle, and due to the possibility causing another brother or sister stumbling in their walk with Christ, it may be best for a Christian to abstain from drinking all together.
God bless everyone!

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A drink is defined as 1.5 ounces of spirits, 5 ounces of wine, or 12 ounces of beer. The dietary guidelines recommend that anyone younger than the legal drinking age and pregnant women should refrain from drinking alcohol.

In a review of 84 studies, people who drank one or fewer alcoholic drinks a day were 14% to 25% less likely to develop heart disease compared to their teetotaling counterparts.

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https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20110224/moderate-alcohol-drinking-may-boost-heart-health

i see it says eat yes. whats your point about that? and whats the connection between the chapters?

You said to drink alcohol is a sin

Yes, the translation is not so much the issue, as the KJB reads perfectly:


It is the context of this verse that needs to be understood.

For instance, instead of presenting my study, let me ask you, do you know what the context of this event refers to?

Where were the Israelites to do this thing in context?

Where were the Israelites at the time of this verse?

Does the text say that they were to "drink" the "wine" or "strong drink"?

Have you read Deuteronomy 12 in connection to Deuteronomy 14, & 26 & 29 along with Number 28?

Have you considered the typological aspects with the anti-typical reality of it a given in the NT?

Do you know what the word "tithe", "firstfruits" means? (I am simply asking).

thou shalt eat there before the LORD

Yes, it is. My study shows without a doubt, but you desired to not see it. I am clean from your blood.

Now give me another Red X so your batting average remains 1.0000.

consume as at the burning bush

Yes, it is. My study shows without a doubt, but you desired to not see it. I am clean from your blood.