Trump - puppet or savior?

I've heard many people including my parents say "God sent Trump to save America".

That does not make him a savior but just a means to ensure that America remains strong and is able to stand against tyranny. The reason Trump is literally hated by the Left, the Swamp, and the Deep State is exactly because he is doing what is right for his country, and putting it first. At the same time, he has made a lot of avoidable mistakes, particularly in the matter of selecting his officials very carefully, and ensuring that they are not traitors.

I think Trump has handled the coronavirus outbreak well for what he can do about it. It may indeed be an overblown event, but since the virus is new and there is a certain quality of the unknown with it, it is sage to err on the side of caution and take steps to try to slow down or shut down the spread.

As for the stimulus spending, I think it is smart to make up for some of the lost productivity due to the virus and the panic. I have also seen Trump is replenishing our strategic oil reserve also while the prices are low. This I think to be very prudent. As my representative in government he is doing what I want the government to do in its capacity as a government. So I am satisfied with his job performance.

Why is Trump giving tax payers' money to super-rich corporations? Isn't that corporate socialism, or corporate welfare? It didn't take them long to turn into beggars. It is nothing but a corporate cash grab.

Anybody still believe that God sent Trump to save America?

Jesus is our saviour, and He doesnt just save one nation out of the entire planet.

silly question to have on a Christian forum..?!

IMO, It's all about Israel at this point and a world wide end time revival .. Who is able to step up and keep the dogs off Israel at this point .

That would be weird if Israel was seduced/tricked to go after the NWO and cooled off with the US or if the US as we know it is lost ..

That would be weird if Israel was seduced/tricked to go after the NWO and cooled off with the US or if the US as we know it is lost ..

Yes, if we can believe what is going on is truth. I assume it to be truth. I am a retired R.N. of 22 years. When I hear "We have a shortage of ventilators" it sends alarm bells off to me. This is the most serious form of life support. If you need a ventilator that bad, then you are seriously ill.

Would you be ok with Trump setting curfews and quarantining people to their homes? Would be ok with marshal law? I'm not judging anyone, I just want to see where God's people stand on this, especially how long they will support Trump's actions.

Trump isn't the one instituting mass quarantines. The states and municipalities are doing that. I.e., it is the Governors that are turning their states off. Trump has nothing to do with that. I call this the Bill Maher Effect. And all Liberals do it. It's a simple formula:

A. Find a problem.

B. Point to problem A and then tell the populace Trump caused it.

The media does exactly this. Every. Single. Day. Any time you see Nancy Pelosi standing behind a podium, you know it's going to be because she's got something to blame Trump for. And whatever it is is usually a lie. Right now, it's "Trump didn't do stuff early enough." How early is good enough? He tried to smack a travel ban on people coming into the country from China immediately when the virus was discovered and spreading there. What did the people on the Left do? They completely freaked, just like they do any time anyone mentions enforcing U.S. immigration laws and tried to BLOCK the travel ban. They did that, not Trump, but now they are trying to blame him for what was actually THEIR stupidity. When Trump proposed a stimulus package to fast track aid when it came to health care and money for those put out of work, and the businesses affected, guess what? The Left didn't want to pass it at all, at first, then they wouldn't pass it until it was loaded with pork that did nothing for the victims of the disease. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how the National Endowments for the Arts, or Amtrak is going to help small business owners who will probably lose their businesses because of this uncalled for lock-down. You are doing exactly what they do. Pointing to Trump and blaming him for things he's not doing. Christians, if confronting an issue and feeling judgment is called for do it judiciously, wisely and make sure they are tagging the right people before they start tossing out accusations. And I write this not even liking Trump. I didn't vote for him, and I don't support him, but he didn't cause any of this. The media, and the talking heads on the Left caused this. And they did it with a cons

It is also the best way to invoke mass panic and fear. First tell the public they need "X" to be cured of the disease, if they get it,
then tell them we have far less units of "X" for people to survive the disease, if they get it and chances are, "X" won't be available for most people. Then tell them constantly in the news cycle, over and over and over how deadly this virus is and how almost everyone on the face of the earth is going to contract it, and then probably die. I know a cocktail for creating a fear-controlled populace when I see it. The United States has NEVER done this with any other disease, and we have had some nasty ones. Polio. SARS. Legionares disease. West Nile Virus. Avian Bird Flu. Polio was a particularly bad one, but at no point did anyone suggest, or institute just basically turning the country off. There is absolutely no reason for people to be confined to their homes, for large swaths of "non-essential" businesses to be shut down, for people to be forced to wear a mask, even if they have no desire to do so. That is totalitarianism, not concern for health. The CDC has bluntly told all healthcare providers, if in doubt, label the death Corona-related. That's called puffing the numbers. And suddenly, Corona is the only thing killing anyone in this country. To listen to the news, heart disease, cancer, and any other kind of death has taken a holiday. This pandemic was invented by the media, and a Liberal group of elites who have a specific goal to achieve. Impeachment didn't work, so they dreamed up something even better. The timing, and the disease coming out of China, was perfect. And the general public, who seemingly have no collective cognitive reasoning skills, got scared and panicked, like good little sheep.

Trump isn't the one instituting mass quarantines. The states and municipalities are doing that. I.e., it is the Governors that are turning their states off. Trump has nothing to do with that. I call this the Bill Maher Effect. And all Liberals do it. It's a simple formula:

A. Find a problem.

B. Point to problem A and then tell the populace Trump caused it.

The media does exactly this. Every. Single. Day. Any time you see Nancy Pelosi standing behind a podium, you know it's going to be because she's got something to blame Trump for. And whatever it is is usually a lie. Right now, it's "Trump didn't do stuff early enough." How early is good enough? He tried to smack a travel ban on people coming into the country from China immediately when the virus was discovered and spreading there. What did the people on the Left do? They completely freaked, just like they do any time anyone mentions enforcing U.S. immigration laws and tried to BLOCK the travel ban. They did that, not Trump, but now they are trying to blame him for what was actually THEIR stupidity. When Trump proposed a stimulus package to fast track aid when it came to health care and money for those put out of work, and the businesses affected, guess what? The Left didn't want to pass it at all, at first, then they wouldn't pass it until it was loaded with pork that did nothing for the victims of the disease. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how the National Endowments for the Arts, or Amtrak is going to help small business owners who will probably lose their businesses because of this uncalled for lock-down. You are doing exactly what they do. Pointing to Trump and blaming him for things he's not doing. Christians, if confronting an issue and feeling judgment is called for do it judiciously, wisely and make sure they are tagging the right people before they start tossing out accusations. And I write this not even liking Trump. I didn't vote for him, and I don't support him, but he didn't cause any of this. The media, and the talking heads on the Left caused this. And they did it with a conscious design.

No, all the Dr.s and Scientists, I'm talking about the most Intellectual people in the world called for social distancing. That's it , that's all, And people were not capable of that! After 30,000 doctors came out of retirement . That left an impression. If well off people decided to come to help we that are not doing anything keep a 6' distance. It's working! ALL the Dr.s and scientist's agree.!

No, all the Dr.s and Scientists, I'm talking about the most Intellectual people in the world called for social distancing. That's it , that's all, And people were not capable of that! After 30,000 doctors came out of retirement . That left an impression. If well off people decided to come to help we that are not doing anything keep a 6' distance. It's working! ALL the Dr.s and scientist's agree.!