Matthew 7:21-23 "I never knew you."

I thought we were talking about Judas and your false claim that he is evidence that salvation can be lost.

Whosoever believe in Him Will be elect to go to heaven.

When God create Adam and eve, He prepare a Garden of Eden, beautiful Garden for them and their children.

Before the foundation of the world His plan is to put them to heaven.

He love them all and prepare heaven for them all

All are invite and elect for heaven, but some chose not

Say I have 5 children.

I build 5 houses for them all

My first child say Yes and I say welcome to the house that I build for you before you born.

My second child say No

Not because I am not prepare a house for him, I have a house for him before he born, but he refused to stay there.

First of all, from chapter 24 thru 25, Jesus has been talking about His return to the earth to end the age. Therefore, the information in those two chapters must be kept in that context. That said, when Jesus returns to the earth to end the age, one of the events which will take place will be the sheep and goat judgment, which will take place right here on earth. The sheep and the goat judgment is not referring to the great white throne judgment, which takes place at the end of the thousand years. Below is from "Gotquestions.com" regarding the sheep and the goats, which I whole heartedly agree with:

Question: "What is the meaning of the Parable of the Sheep and Goats?"

Answer: The Parable of the Sheep and Goats is part of the Olivet Discourse. It is found in Matthew 25:31-46. A parable is a short, simple story of comparison. Jesus used parables to teach spiritual truths by means of earthly situations.

Jesus begins the parable by saying it concerns His return in glory to set up His kingdom (Matthew 25:31). Therefore, the setting of this event is at the beginning of the millennium, after the tribulation. All those on earth at that time will be brought before the Lord, and He will separate them “as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left” (verses 32–33). The sheep are those who were saved during the tribulation; the goats are the unsaved who survived the tribulation.

The sheep on Jesus’ right hand are blessed by God the Father and given an inheritance. The reason is stated: “For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me” (verses 35-36). The righteous will not understand: when did they see Jesus in such a pitiful condition and help Him? “The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me’” (verses 39-40).

The goats on Jesus’ left hand are cursed with eternal hell-fire, “prepared for the devil and his angels” (verse 41). The reason is given: they had opportunity to minister to the Lord, but they did nothing (verses 42-43). The damned ask, “Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?” (verse 44). Jesus replies, “I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me” (verse 45).

Jesus then ends the discourse with a contrast: “They will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life” (verse 46).

In the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats, we are looking at man redeemed and saved, and man condemned and lost. A casual reading seems to suggest that salvation is the result of good works. The “sheep” acted charitably, giving food, drink, and clothing to the needy. The “goats” showed no charity. This seems to result in salvation for the sheep and damnation for the goats.

However, Scripture does not contradict itself, and the Bible clearly and repeatedly teaches that salvation is by faith through the grace of God and not by our good works (see John 1:12; Acts 15:11; Romans 3:22-24; Romans 4:4-8; Romans 7:24-25; Romans 8:12; Galatians 3:6-9; and Ephesians 2:8-10). In fact, Jesus Himself makes it clear in the parable that the salvation of the “sheep” is not based on their works—their inheritance was theirs “since the creation of the world” (Matthew 25:34), long before they could ever do any good works!

The good works mentioned in the parable are not the cause of salvation but the effect of salvation. As Christians we become like Christ (see Romans 8:29; 2 Corinthians 3:18; and Colossians 2:6-7). Galatians 5:22 tells us that the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self-control. Good works in a Christian’s life are the direct overflow of these traits, and are only acceptable to God because of the relationship that exists between servant and Master, the saved and their Savior, the sheep and their Shepherd (see Ephesians 2:10).

The core message of the Parable of the Sheep and Goats is that God’s people will love others. Good works will result from our relationship to the Shepherd. Followers of Christ will treat others with kindness, serving them as if they were serving Christ Himself. The unregenerate live in the opposite manner. While “goats” can indeed perform acts of kindness and charity, their hearts are not right with God, and their actions are not for the right purpose – to honor and worship God.

Sheep = The great tribulation saints

Goats = Those who rejected Christ and survived the tribulation

The sheep will enter into the millennial kingdom and repopulated it along with the remnant of Israel

Regarding the above, I don't know what you are attempting to say? I know this, the inhabitants of the earth will have a lot more to worry about than the Corona virus. Though we are living in the last days the world has not yet entered the time of God's wrath, but will do so once the church has been gathered. Then God's wrath will be poured out via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments and whatever plagues of wrath the two witnesses will bring.

The will of our Heavenly Father is for us to place our faith in Jesus Christ.

Is this prophecy that Will happen or only parable?

Parable is only a way to explain. For Example the kingdom of heaven is like a farmer sowing seed.


So you believe this judgement not for all? Only for a people that life during tribulation?

During the tribulation every body that not take the mark Will hiding not show themselve to the government people, how they visit people in the prison?

The verse say when I am in the prison you visit me.


Eternal not only 1000 years kingdom

So this judgement is decide whether you go to heaven or not, not only wether you go to 1000 years kingdom or not

It decide for eternal life in heaven or eternal punishment in hell

A parable is figurative representing what is literal.

In your example, the farmer is the Son of Man, the seed falling on different ground represents different types of hears. In the parable of the weeds and the wheat, the one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man, The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest represents the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. So parable is just the use of images to convey something literal or a literal event. The parable of the wheat and the weeds is a literal event that is currently taking place with its end result.

There are various judgments which will take place:

Bema Seat Judgment = Takes place in heaven for believers after being resurrected and caught up, but not judgment for sin, but for receiving rewards or loss of reward

Sheep and goat judgment = Takes place when Christ returns to the earth to end the age between those who were faithful in Christ during the tribulation period (sheep) and the wicked (goats) who will have made it alive through the tribulation period.

Great white throne judgment = Takes place after the end of the millennial kingdom for all of the unrighteous dead throughout all of history. These are resurrected, with their spirits will be released from Hades where they will be judged and then thrown into the lake of fire.

The point of that parable is that, because of their faith, the righteous will have love for other people during that time. Where the goats (unbelievers) who are unfaithful, will not have the desire to help anyone else. As an example, we saw greed and selfishness in its raw form, when the Corona virus hit where many people went out and horded all kinds of supplies thinking only of themselves, stockpiling products and even trying to make a large prophet in the midst of this situation. By doing this, they are the ones who caused the shortage of supplies for others who didn't panic and just wanted to buy what they needed, but are now unable to. God will deal with all of those people, for they have the same spirit as the goats. It is a me, me, me attitude.

You obviously didn't read what I posted in that, the judgment of the sheep and goats is in the context of the Olivet Discourse which is referring to the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. By your claim, you are jumping out of the context and having that judgment take place at the end of the millennial kingdom.

You clearly don't have enough study regarding this and are rejecting the scriptural information that I have been providing. I would advise that you go back and read that post from "Gotquestions.com" and consider what is being said, as well as everyting that I have told you. In Matt.24 and 25, Jesus is referring to when the Lord returns to the earth. Therefore, the judgment of the sheep and the goats will take place here on the earth regarding the righteous and the wicked who make it alive through the tribulation period.

Stop rejecting the truth and be eager to learn what the word of God is teaching

You say about our relationship

Our or people that life during tribulation?

Matt 25
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

You say this judgement decide whether people go to thausand years kingdom or hell

Why Jesus say go to eternal life in the last word in this verse

Why not say into 1000 years kingdom?

Hey brother! It's good to see you back online! There are another couple of posts that need your attention as well

Eternal life and everlasting punishment will be the end result for both, not something that is going to happen immediately.

The sheep will have everlasting life, but prior to that they will be in their mortal bodies and will live during the millennial kingdom. It is the same for the goats. They their fate will be everlasting punishment. However, I believe that when they are killed, they will first go down into Hades. Then at the end of the millennial kingdom they will be resurrected and will stand at the final judgment.

Sometimes things are spoken of in general terms. For example, the word of God says "a man is once to die and then comes the judgment." Well, that judgment will indeed take place, but not until after the millennial kingdom. Some people err thinking that this judgment takes place at the time of death, which it does not. It is the same here, the sheep will be those who will have kept their testimony of Jesus and the word of God, even when faced with death. Those righteous who will have made it alive through the tribulation will still be in their mortal bodies and will repopulated the earth during the millennial kingdom. So, they will not have everlasting life in their immortal and glorified bodies until after the millennial kingdom.

By trying to make the sheep and the goats judgment to take place at the great white throne judgment in heaven, you are ignoring the time period that Jesus is speaking about in that context and just applying it where you want to.

"When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. 32All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

The scripture says, "When the Son of Man "Comes in His glory and the angels with Him." That the Lord is coming in His glory and the angels with Him, would be synonymous with Matt.24:31 when the Lord comes on the clouds of heaven and the angels with HIm and are sent out to gather His elect. Therefore, if the judgment was in heaven as you say, then there would be no need for Him and the angels to come because they would already be in heaven. The Lord coming in His glory and the angels with Him, demonstrates that it is speaking about when He returns to the earth and the angels with Him. If the judgment was in heaven then there is no need Him and the angels to come, because they would already be in heaven.

Please take these things into consideration, as it is the truth of God's word.
As I said, Matt 24 and 25 are referring to all of the events and wrath of God leading up to the Lord's return to the earth. Therefore, if you remain in that context, the sheep and goat judgment takes place on the earth, not heaven.

Hello! Back on line? I never left. I'm post something on here almost every day. What posts are you referring to my friend?

I don't say this judgement happen in heaven, but this judgement decide whether people go to heaven Ir hell.
I know from verse 46.

But I am not sure about wether It decide a person go to milenial or not since These verse not mention about It.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Amen! Judas was not saved, but was an unbelieving, unclean devil who betrayed Jesus. (John 6:64-71; 13:10-11)

In regards to Psalm 41:9, David wrote this psalm about Ahithophel who was one of David's official counselors (2 Samuel 15:12). As David's friend, Ahithophel defected from the king and joined in Absalom's conspiracy. It is evident that there is messianic connotation given to this verse because Jesus quoted it in speaking of Judas Iscariot in John 13:18. Although David said, "mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted," Jesus deleted this reference when He used it of Judas.

John 17:12 - While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. John 18:9 - that the saying might be fulfilled which He spoke, "Of those whom You gave Me I have lost none." Jesus did not lose Judas. Judas was already lost and was the son of perdition.

Syllogism

1. All given by the Father to Jesus are kept.
2. Judas was not kept.
3. Judas was not given to Jesus by the Father

Or, this way.

1. None of those given to Jesus by the Father will be lost by Jesus.
2. Judas is lost.
3. Judas was not given to Jesus by the Father.

That was informative, thank you.

The situation is people who think they are saved Christians because they think they are doing the will of God.

They will point to the 10 commandments (or even to just 1 of the 10 commandments) and say "this is the will of God and we are doing it."


People are mostly right. But they are mostly wrong in their application of what they think is right.

Doing the 10 commandments IS GODS WILL. But they can't do the 10 commandments. No one can. That is the whole reason for coming to Christ and abiding in Christ. To receive the Holy Spirit and to have Fruit grown in your life.

This fruit is the fulfillment of the 10 commandments and is the ONLY WAY they can be kept.


Abiding in Christ has all the benefits of being blessed. You know Him and He knows you. His blessing causes you to walk in Righteousness.

You can't do this yourself. No one can.


That's why telling the Lord about all your works and reasons why you should enter into His Kingdom is silliness. The only reason a person can give is that they trusted that the Lord would bring them in and nothing else.


Too many Workers of Iniquity thinking that it is their work that gets them in. It is only Christs Work that can get us in.

Notice upon what they were trusting in...their own good works.

did we not prophesy ... drive out demons...perform many miracles.

This does not gain a person into heaven. Only Jesus Christ via His Righteousness, death and resurrection. A person can continue to trust in their abundance of good works, but they are filthy rags in comparison to the Blood of Jesus Christ.

oh ok...I must have been missing your posts. Here are some posts

Mark of the Beast PRECONDITIONING National Lockdown /Chip Implant (666 Resistance Prayer)

The Antichrist and The Two Witnesses In Revelations!!

The mark of beast