(Refuting Penal Substitution) Jesus Did NOT Satisfy the Wrath of God On The Cross!!

dont worry this teaching is rare. no one teaches this not a single church in world. just few people in internet.

Actually the teaching is quite popular. There's an author named NT Wright who teaches this same exact thing, very popular among false Christians. The OP sounds like it could be directly quoted from his writings lol.
Satan is a deceiver and a good one at that, if he wasn't nobody would fall for it.

PEOPLE DONT LISTEN TO ME LISTEN 2 GOD, THE HOLY SPIRIT AND SCRIPTURE!! PRAY, FAST AND SEEK GOD EVERY SECOND AND HE WILL GUIDE U 2 TRUTH!! PROV 3:5-6

This is easily solved..Jesus didn't die for all mankind. He died for the elect.

Therefore, only those who come to faith and repentance are no longer under God's wrath.

This is clearly what Scripture teaches.

Universal atonement, which most free-willers believe in, may have an issue with this, but Reformed people who believe in limited atonement don't.

The non-elect are still under God's wrath and condemnation.

The elect are under God's wrath and condemnation until they repent and place their faith in Jesus.

NT Wright view is not comparable to the OP at all.

“Christ died in the place of sinners is closer to the pagan idea of an angry deity being pacified by a human death than it is to anything in either Israel’s Scriptures or the New Testament.” NT. Wright.

Seems pretty clear to me.

“Christ died in the place of sinners is closer to the pagan idea of an angry deity being pacified by a human death than it is to anything in either Israel’s Scriptures or the New Testament.” NT. Wright.

Seems pretty clear to me.

NT. Wright clearly denies penal substitution as does the OP right in the title. The connection is plainly visible 🙈

For different reasons.

Thats the hook, thats where he gets ya. Islam denies substitutionary atonement by Jesus in one way, Jehovah witness deny it in their way, Mormons in theirs and NT Wright in his own way, all different ways but for the same reason.🔥

Thats the hook, thats where he gets ya. Islam denies substitutionary atonement by Jesus in one way, Jehovah witness deny it in their way, Mormons in theirs and NT Wright in his own way, all different ways but for the same reason.🔥

And this is just as wrong as the op

We obviously know dat Gods wrath is his cup of indignation.

did jesus satisfy the wrath of God? Know don’t be 2 hasty and comment based opinions, on what ur church has taught u, wat uv herd off the pulpit or wat manly tradition says, if u look (deep) into the bible you wont find where jesus (satify’s) or drinks from the cup of Gods wrath.

John 18:11

Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?
Ull Only find where jesus provided a substitute 2 wave Gods wrath instead, there 2 different things, Gods wrath still remains just look at scripture,

Revelation 14:9-10 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Acts 12:23 God smote king herod for not giving him glory.

Acts 5 Ananias and Sapphira struck down dead for holding back the money from God!!
R
omans 1:18 the wrath of God is revealed from heaven

Romans 2:5-8 they treasure up wrath for the day of judgment!!

Colossians 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
So we sea throughout the new testament especially revelations where Gods wrath is being poured out onto sinners with the releasing of the seals.
Cup of Gods wrath has not been emptied, Cup of wrath is still full folks even after the cross.

If Gods wrath was satisfied at the cross then why is he still pouring out his wrath on people?
If jesus satisified the wrath of God theres no more need of forgiveness of sins, jesus would have paid off our debt. But yet God still requires servitude,

obedience because our debts havnt completely gone he just turns his face at them, matt 6:12 father forgive us our debts.
Through Christ we have the forgiveness of sin they God may have mercy on us, not that they’ve vanish away.

If all sins are paid 4 then theres no more mercy 2 give, mercy is when God doesn’t give us wat we deserve, its when he turns away from giving us wrath like the Passover, the death of pharaohs 1st borns!!

Elaborate please.

What do you think is wrong?

If your issue is election, the Bible clearly teaches it, and those that deny election are simply closing their eyes to the facts.

But that is not the major problem with his teaching.

The major problem is that we have individuals within the Church which simply deny that unbelievers are under the wrath of God and facing impending condemnation.

They will suffer the fury of almighty God in eternal punishment if they do not place their faith in Christ and repent.

This is simple Bible teaching. Start reading Romans. View attachment 212822

Tears literally rolling down my face. Thanks for that.

They will suffer the fury of almighty God in eternal punishment if they do not place their faith in Christ and repent.

Not sure if that is sarcasm or what

No, not sarcasm at all. I actually saved the pic and Im still chuckling a little. Thanks again, best laugh I had all day.