The Doctrinal Belief of a Pre-Tribulation Resurrection. Is not spoken of in the Word of God. It was created by a sick and deranged woman

The climax and apex of this church age is the groom coming for the bride. Not the church watchful for the other guy on the white horse.

Get that down and your path will AUTOMATICALLY align correctly.

It truly should be impossible to miss.
Seemingly impossible.

Does the word God and heaven mean the same thing? Nope. God is a spirit, heaven is a place. Then the kingdom of God is not the same as the kingdom of heaven. Pretty simple.

That's right --- the climax and apex of this church age is the Second Coming of Christ -- when He will come for His bride and begin His 1000-year reign on earth. (all in the same "coming")

If you ever properly understand all that is written below, it will help disolve the deception you are under so that you may attain to a correct interpretation of the biblical prophecy concerning the End Times Scenario:

~ The 'pre-trib' interpretation of Daniel 9:24-27 is totally and severely in error.

~ There is no gap in the 70 weeks of Daniel. All 70 weeks "came and went" in a single unbroken span of 490 years. It is 100% past history.

~ There is no antichrist in Daniel 9:24-27.

~ There is no 7-year treaty indicated in Daniel 9:24-27.

~ The Abomination of Desolation is not specifically referred to or mentioned in Daniel 9:24-27.

~ The events of the First Coming of Christ completed the fulfilling of all of the things listed in verse 24.

~ There is no 'prince' in verse 27.

~ There is no 7-year 'prophetic' End Times period.

(A more explanitory discussion of this may be found here: http://mywebsite.us/BibleStudy/Seventy_Weeks.html)

There IS a 3.5-year 'prophetic' End Times period.

We call it the Two Witnesses.

It coincides with the Trumpet events, because it is the Two Witnesses that cause the Trumpet events to occur.

(They actually command them into existance.)

Both the Trumpet events and the Wrath of God (the 'vials') occur after the Great Tribulation period [is over].

Neither occur during the Great Tribulation period.

The Seals "overlap into" the Great Tribulation, the Trumpet events, and the Wrath of God (the 'vials').

Does the word God and heaven mean the same thing? Nope. God is a spirit, heaven is a place. Then the kingdom of God is not the same as the kingdom of heaven. Pretty simple.

BTW, the Church suffers persecution yes. It does NOT suffer Gods wrath poured out on the UNGODLY, and is expressly saved from this very wrath precisely as Paul says.

(A more explanitory discussion of this may be found here: http://mywebsite.us/BibleStudy/Seventy_Weeks.html)

There are different versions of MacDonald's account of her vision, depending on who related them. i read a version many years ago and did not see an argument for a pre-trib rapture in it.

You should be careful about slandering the dead, too. If they are dead, does that mean it is not slander? what evidence is there that she was 'deranged'? She was said to have been physically sick and instantly, if I recall correctly, when her brother commanded her to arise, using a quote from scripture, after she'd prayed that he be filled with the Holy Ghost. 'Sick and deranged' makes her sound mentally ill. I have never heard of any evidence of that.

I have also read that Darby wrote his pre-trib theory before this incident anyway. And I have read Darby rejected what happened with the McDonald's family, anyway. It does not make sense to attribute his eschatological innovations to them.

That's right --- the Church suffers persecution during the Great Tribulation period. And then - Jesus comes back, raptures the Church - taking them out of the way - before commencing with the pouring out of the Wrath of God upon the ungodly.

That's right --- the Church suffers persecution during the Great Tribulation period. And then - Jesus comes back, raptures the Church - taking them out of the way - before commencing with the pouring out of the Wrath of God upon the ungodly.

Since the trumpets are during the gt,I am thinking you are needing a separate "wrath" section of the 7 yr gt.

Good grief man....the GT is the time of Gods wrath....the 70th week.

There IS a 3.5-year 'prophetic' End Times period.

We call it the Two Witnesses.

It coincides with the Trumpet events, because it is the Two Witnesses that cause the Trumpet events to occur.

(They actually command them into existance.)

Nope. Sorry. That is incorrect.

Impossible. The exact duration of DAYS are stipulated for pitys sake.

Good grief man....the GT is the time of Gods wrath....the 70th week.

I have never heard about the story of her brother who prayed over her and she was healed.
I base my opinion of her derangement on her letter and the fact that she was so sick she was bed ridden for 18 months. Here are some statements she made that are scripturally false.
"Only those who have the light of God within them will see the sign of his appearance."
The above statement is not true. Scripture that all men will see the sign of the coming of the Son Of Man

Pretrib rapture originated with Jesus.

Blame it on him.

Read mat 24 and 25.
"Before the flood..."
Show us any catching away after the flood.
In fact go ahead and look at rev 14.
Ripe fruit HARVESTED DURING THE TRIB. Most likely Jews since the firstfruits immediately precede them .

The vision by McDonald aligns perfectly.

I have never heard about the story of her brother who prayed over her and she was healed.
I base my opinion of her derangement on her letter and the fact that she was so sick she was bed ridden for 18 months. Here are some statements she made that are scripturally false.
"Only those who have the light of God within them will see the sign of his appearance."
The above statement is not true. Scripture that all men will see the sign of the coming of the Son Of Man
’Tis Christ in us that will lift us up - he is the light - ‘tis only those that are alive in him that will be caught up to meet him in the air.
This statement is also false. Sriture says that the dead in Christ will raise first and then the those who are alive will be changed and risen after.
"but that all must, as Stephen was, be filled with the Holy Ghost, that they might look up, and see the brightness of the Father’s glory. I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye; but ’tis spiritual discernment that is needed, the eye of God in his people."
Again this statement also is false. The natural eye of all who are living when Christ come back will see The sign of the return of Christ.
I felt as Elijah surrounded with chariots of fire.
Elijah was never surrounded by several chariots of fire. He was picked up and taken into heaven by just one chariot.
So based on her vivid imagination, distortion of scripture and her sickness I believe she was deranged.

From what I gather from what I read, the statements were reported second hand. In either case, someone can be wrong about scripture without being 'deranged.' And if this isn't even the correct wording, then you are dragging the dead's name through the mud for nothing.