Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

Catholics as a law of the fathers (commandment of men) like the same a aw of the faithless Jewish father take the oral tradition of men to make the things of God (sola scriptura) without effect. The bottom line.

Like the unbelieving Jew they create their own personal source of faith as a foundation. Which includes Mary along with the other 3500 and rising(a legion) of what they call patron saints and the bible names workers with family spirits calling it a abomination. . Having removed the authority of our unseen Holy father . they violate the warning as those whose private interpretations mixed with the oral tradition of the fathers again called the law of the father. not the law of God.

There must be heresies in that way as opinions of men . Heresy the Greek word for sect or denomination . With one heresy that is damnable or judgment as needing the gospel. That which does despite to the grace of God. Therefore salvation is by grace but according to them only Mary through idolatry and witchcraft received the fulness of grace according to the law of the fathers . Therefore clearly denying the Lord of his fullness of grace given to every believer. No remnants

Everyone else a unknown remnant of grace and therefore after death they must work for another unknow or remnant of time ,suffering a unknown amount or severity of wrath .Ultimately showing no faith as it is written alone. (sola scriptura) The arch enemy of the father of lies as it is written makes him fleee .

1 Corinthians 11:19For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

Galatians 5:20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Those weren't Mary's sin offering due to her being in sin. Were she unclean she would not have been able to fulfill God's law of the firstborn and thus enter the temple.

The Law of the Firstborn
...Fulfilling the Law

Many years passed in the land of Israel. Much history transpired, and a great many things changed. Even though the Levitical priesthood was becoming increasingly corrupt, God's rules regarding the firstborn were still upheld among the remnant of the Jews. Now Jesus Christ, who had just come into the world as a firstborn—both of His heavenly Father and of His physical mother, Mary—was about to begin a life of obedience to His own laws:


On Jesus' eighth day of life, He was circumcised, and, as a firstborn, He was dedicated to God's service. It is interesting that Luke makes no mention of Mary and Joseph offering a lamb as a redeeming sacrifice, though he does record the sin and burnt offerings that they presented later on the fortieth day of His human life:


This omission appears to be because:


The offering of the two turtledoves or pigeons refers to the fortieth-day purification, not to the fact that Jesus was the firstborn. Again, this purification offering was required for all births, not just for the firstborn. Luke adds in Luke 2:27: "And when the parents brought in[to the Temple] the Child Jesus, to do for Him according to the custom of the law . . ." (Luke 2:27).

This "custom of the law" refers specifically to the fortieth-day purification offering at the Temple. This is proven by both Mary and Joseph being in attendance, a thing she could not do if she were still unclean. Mary was ceremonially unclean on Jesus' eighth day of life, when the firstborn and circumcision ceremonies were performed at home, not at the Temple (see Luke 1:57-59 regarding the circumcision of John the Baptist). Ceremonial purity was not necessary for these latter rituals.

Another reason why Catholics revere Mary and believe the things they do, is because when Mary appeared in these apparitions, she herself described herself as the Immaculate Conception, Queen of Heaven, etc. (She also spoke good things of her Son). Additionally, she said things like pray with the rosary, etc. So, she herself spoke/confirmed some the of the beliefs held by Catholics.

I think our minds are too finite to understand everything. I don't discount the people who saw the apparitions.

What actually do you do with those rosary beads Sis ?

Not sure, as I'm not Catholic. But I believe Catholics hold it during prayer to ward off evil.

I already provided it:
10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
Romans 3:10

The Bible does not state that Mary was without sin. There are not too many details about Mary in the Bible. Personally I do not think that Mary is just like any other godly woman. She was a pure woman of some sort. I believe she was born in sin because of the fall, but perhaps she was protected from sin, but nonetheless she needed a Savior. Throughout the ages people have seen apparitions of Mary, and I believe their accounts and that these people are not lying or hallucinating. It is important to note that while Catholics venerate Mary and pray to her as an intercessor, they do not worship her and only worship the Trinity. They are not denying Christ.

Interestingly, Luke 1 contains the verse "And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless."

Since the man and his helpmate shall be one flesh, that's one. In 1 John 3:7 it is written, "Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous."

In Luke 1:46-47, we read - Then Mary said: “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior! Why would Mary need a Savior if she was sinless? Romans 3:23 clearly states - ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Notice it doesn't say all "expect Mary." Jesus Christ was the only exception. Hebrews 4:15 - For we do not have a high priest (Jesus Christ) who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin. The Bible nowhere says that about Mary.

Another reason why Catholics revere Mary and believe the things they do, is because when Mary appeared in these apparitions, she herself described herself as the Immaculate Conception, Queen of Heaven, etc. (She also spoke good things of her Son). Additionally, she said things like pray with the rosary, etc. So, she herself spoke/confirmed some the of the beliefs held by Catholics.

I think our minds are too finite to understand everything. I don't discount the people who saw the apparitions.

Typical response.

You seem to revel in the division of truth here, quite regularly.

Go learn what this means...

James 3:18
And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those making peace.

If Mary was sinless, she would not need to offer a sacrifice for her sin.

Hebrew 10:18
Now where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.

2 Peter 3:15-16
Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters,f speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort,g as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

The Bible does not state that Mary was without sin. There are not too many details about Mary in the Bible. Personally I do not think that Mary is just like any other godly woman. She was a pure woman of some sort. I believe she was born in sin because of the fall, but perhaps she was protected from sin, but nonetheless she needed a Savior. Throughout the ages people have seen apparitions of Mary, and I believe their accounts and that these people are not lying or hallucinating. It is important to note that while Catholics venerate Mary and pray to her as an intercessor, they do not worship her and only worship the Trinity. They are not denying Christ.

You're right, Catholics do not worship Mary. They also do not pray to Mary. (more here) “We never give more honor to Jesus than when we honor his Mother, and we honor her simply and solely to honor him all the more perfectly. We go to her only as a way leading to the goal we seek – Jesus, her Son.” – Saint Louis Marie de Montfort.

Unfortunately anti-Catholicism is bigotry and that is a sin. No one born of God makes a habit of sinning. "No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him."

I'm thinking before Jesus completed His work on the cross, under the OT it was what carried you well in Paradise until the cross .. Jesus still had to justify through His sinless blood .. We all fall short on our own, John the Baptist too ..

No body sinless. Every body sin and lack the glory of God

What is the glory of God that all men fall short of?

Well, something to ponder, when Jesus told the malefactor on the cross to day you shall be with me in paradise, would you consider that they where in paradise, or that they would be going to paradise that day.

And he straitly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing; Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day. Luke 9:21-22

Would you consider the heart of the earth as paradise?

For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matt 12:40

What is the glory of God that all men fall short of?