Not By Works

the foundation is Christ.

Not in how good we are
Not in how well we follow Jesus
Not in persevering.
Not in anything we do of our own power
It is in Christ. and his promise.

and what is his promise, whoever believes HAS eternal life. WILL never die, WILL spend eternity with him.

If you think it means you MIGHT spend eternity, Your foundation is in self. Because you must keep yourself saved by whatever means you think can cause you to lose grip on the eternal promise

Wow how twisty is this?

So much for the thief on the cross.
So much for people who take their last breath finally believing

So much for the fact that the words of Paul which state
very clearly that it is the person that doesn't work that is justified.

So much for the fact that there is no metric on how many demonstrated works are necessary.

The fact is that justified is a legal status conferred by God and to state that works must follow justification makes one justified by their works.

Your twisty is indeed twisted and again a slam against the true free gift of salvation that a very gracious God gives with no strings attached.

If there were strings attached it would not be a gift.

You are hilarious.

Not before God.

Works can only show as EVIDENCE (not proof) before MAN.

Our justification has ZERO to do with works of righteousness which we do.

Thank you so much...if anything drives me up the wall is this proof (Calvinism) narrative ...our works give evidence before men so that others will believe.

everyone here loves me thats the truth. osas and nosas alike. i never get dislikes or red x from anyone. even that catholic troll who comes with different names all the time like "hereticswontmakeit" or something always puts "happy" to my messages.

Amazing how the religionists conflate JAMES and PAUL.......and in so doing void the message of truth and make two fold the children of hell by their false gospels....

PAUL -->before God a man is 100% saved and justified by faith into JESUS without ONE work attached

James-->MERE belief in GOD justifies no man, but the genuine faith identified by PAUL that justifies a man before GOD without ONE work attached can be seen by MEN through the works that we have been saved to walk IN (Ephesians) and....

EVEN IF WE DON"T DO ONE WORK

To him that WORKS NOT, but believes on HIM that justifies the ungodly, HIS FAITH is credited unto righteousness

THEY absolutely reject and deny the above verse by the cafe blend works dogma they peddle

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So is James correct by saying a man is justified by works, and not by faith only? Is this Church doctrine?

When @OneOfHis came on this site he was opposing truth and standing on religious blather.....and he maligned me just like a few of these other so called believers are doing now....and we engaged each other and Jamie was open to the truth and he came on line with the truth and I am thankful for his stance now.......he defends the truth and does not skew it now as some of these other posters do.

So Matthew 25:31-46 doesn't really mean what it says?

When @OneOfHis came on this site he was opposing truth and standing on religious blather.....and he maligned me just like a few of these other so called believers are doing now....and we engaged each other and Jamie was open to the truth and he came on line with the truth and I am thankful for his stance now.......he defends the truth and does not skew it now as some of these other posters do.

John, do not patronise me....James is speaking of our claim of faith being justified BEFORE MEN......

Therefore we conclude that a man is JUSTIFIED by FAITH without the deeds/works of the law. <---PAUL

Are we to justify ourselves before other people? Why? How? If I do a good work where people see it, that justifies that I’m a believer? How many works? Do you justify other believers? Paul says that Jesus is the just and justifier.

Btw, Abraham’s example in James...there was no one upon that mount to justify Abraham except God. Abraham was justified by God not man.

Make a stiffer stand on the truth.......when all men speak well of you <----google that and read the verses my little brother

It is about being a witness and letting His love shine through us without being partial.

We are called to be blameless, but before God this can not be so through effort.


Jesus's righteousness justifies us before God.

Our actions before man who can not see the heart justify us before man.

It is about being a witness and letting His love shine through us without being partial.

We are called to be blameless, but before God this can not be so through effort.


Jesus's righteousness justifies us before God.

Our actions before man who can not see the heart justify us before man.




For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.


Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.


But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.


Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works.

Can you really determine the salvation of another by observing their good works?

Here’s the difference. James is speaking of justification through a persons own faith. James writes:

18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Paul says the believer is justified by the faith of Jesus Christ.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Yet James says to the Jews, a man is justified by works and not by faith only.

21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Who was Abraham justified by? God, not man.

Genesis 22:12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.