Can One’s Salvation Be Given Up?

No offence, but pitting PAUL against JESUS is Pitting JESUS against JESUS.....the words of PAUL are the words of JESUS unless NOTED by PAUL on the few occasions he TOOK the liberty to give his own personal view.....

Like I asked the other poster, can you provide a respected Pastor or Theologian that teaches this?

I post scripture, lots of scripture. I’m sorry if you can’t see that the disciples had no understanding of the d,b,r. This is the gospel that Paul taught.

1 Corinthians 15
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Romans 16
25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith

One can turn their back and lose faith, but God remains faithful. Circumstances in life may cause a believer to drift away from the Lord, but the Lord never loses that which is His.
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold all souls are mine; the soul that sineth ,it shall die . You are teaching a doctrine that cause a lot of souls to be lost .The dog & 2 PETER 2:22 the sow that was washed . Once it go's back into the mire it is no longer clean . GOD bless as HE sees Fit.

No, he’s talking about something else. A lot of Pauline followers believe actual grace didn’t come until Paul started speaking to the Gentiles. I’m trying to figure what his stance is.

That is a kind of strange request, I have provided scripture, isn't scripture the best teacher?

Who are the ones you considered respected?

Again, can you point to someone(modern times) that validates this?

Why is it a strange request? Surely there are scholars a such that would have an opinion on this. Just give one name that validates this.

A faith that is stagnant is a faith that in the mtn of life has halted in the climb of sanctification until glorification at the peak which is our resurrection in Christ. The stagnant faith for many reasons stops due to the climb may have become exhausting, scary, too treacherous, too many obstacles, not a convenient enough of a path.

This faith is always in danger of turning around or completely giving up. So called eventually apostasy. Only God can see the heart of these individuals and the full life of the individual.

Us as Christians must examine the fruit and with discernment determine are they in a period of doubt and some discipleship may help or if they have grown hostile towards the faith then what led to that? A long festering doubt? A life crisis? A false teacher? If this can be discovered we may can bring them back. If all else fails as Paul said to release them to Satan and in prayer we pray that life and consequences of sin will bring them home. Will the individual be like the prodigal son? Only God knows and so for us we should never give up on the lost until we die or Christ returns.

But at the same time protect ourselves and
1 Corinthians 9:26-27
26 I therefore so run, but not with uncertainty; I so fight, but not as one that beateth the air.
27 But I keep control of my body, and bring it into subjection, lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

We must be in a daily practice of carrying ones cross which is in full submission and abiding faith that we rely on God and God alone to sustain us until the day of completion.

Okay if you insist:

Cornelius R Stam, I would recommend his landmark book, Things that Differ, available here https://docs.zoho.com/file/o17eb3b3fc14926b84dc7ab1e66437d41fadb

Les Feldick

https://graceambassadors.com/

These Laodicean pastors who learned from Laodicean seminaries? Lol...I wouldn’t give two cents for a seminary degree today.

It is impossible to separate a BELIEVER from salvation.

The believer has to go back to unbelief and be turned over to that unbelief for him to lose his salvation. But as long as you are a believer you are forever secure in salvation.

So Les Feldick taught a reformed theology. Why was he right and 2000 years of church history and teaching are wrong?

So can you provide someone that adheres to your doctrine?

Grace came as a result of the resurrection. You know, the resurrection that the disciples had no clue about before the cross.

Yeah I do not believe that drivel either......Grace is woven through the whole bible even though it is partially hidden in the O.T.....

example....

Under the law, David should have been put to death for his adultery with Bathsheba and subsequent murder of Uriah...yet GOD had mercy, spared David, took the innocent son of David in his place (picture of JESUS) and under chastisement punished David through various means as evidenced by the Psalms.......

So why did Jesus perform miracles and forgive sin if there was no grace?

James Knox
Sam Gipp
James Modlish
Andrew Sluder

Miracles were signs to the Jews in order for them to believe the message. Jews seek after a sign. We are commanded to walk by faith not by sight.

Is not the gospel that Paul taught, how Christ died for our sins, was buried and resurrected on the third day? Did the disciples understand this message before the cross?