Jonah Died and went to Hell

Rather than answer a question with a question I think you should answer directly the question put to you as pertains to your allusion about Jesus. The question was: "Are you saying that Christ did not die for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried and rose again the third day? "

This summary is a lot clearer thank you. My belief and yours do not align on this. There is lots of scriptural support for those who are in torment in Sheol/Hades. And this will lead to the lake of fire on the Day of Judgement. I think you may be rowing against the current in terms of conventional Christian belief on this one.

It was according to the scripture. The demonstration as a living sacrifice (God cannot die) began in the garden .The father poured out his wrath and the Son of man Jesus. By reason of his suffering he cried out three times. The Father giving him the strength of His Spirit to finish it. Then the three day worked moved to cross and into the Tomb.

The parable below shows the living work . Using sweat as if it was blood to demonstrate the unseen work of the Spirit. The word as in as it were indicates a parable is in view.

Many misinterpret that to mean literal blood which is used to represent the unseen Spirit. Literal blood with out the spirt essence of life has nothing to offer. The power comes exclusively from the unseen Spirit. Just as with Jonas

Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow, And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him. 42-47

Then the demonstration was moved to the next part of that three day demonstration of living sacrifice. . the Cross and the Tomb.

Thanks for the reply.

It one of times to row against the current and restore the spiritual understanding hid from natural man.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

The wage of sin is death,( body, soul and mind) never to rise to new spirit life for those who have not been born again.

No, Psalm 40 is David's deliverance while in this life.
Job 33 speaks to how to keep ones self free of the pit. A teaching to the living.
The Book of Jonah, one of the minor prophet books we should note, and chapter 2 is Jonah's prophecies. The whale vomiting Jonah on dry land is not Jonah arriving at Nineveh ,as God had told him to travel there in the beginning, because Nineveh is located on the Tigris.

Where are the verses that say the living are able to enter Sheol?
Jonah was dead. David was not. Nor was Job, just to throw that in there.

Consider the comparison. Huge storm, Jonah thrown overboard by those on the ship thinking it would save them from the storm, Jonah swallowed by a great fish, some say whale, but it was the belly of Sheol, where he stayed for three days as one dead, think Jesus there and His three days in the tomb, the body dead, the spirit departed to minister unto those in Sheol, then he's vomited on the dry land and seemingly learns not to doubt God's orders and do what he's told for the people of Nineveh. Which Jonah concedes to and does go there.
Then Jonah questions God's intention to spare the people of Nineveh. As if he didn't learn his lesson after being covered with big fish bile? The only prophet in the old testament sent by God directly to the Gentiles, and Jonah still has his own temperament and will?
Nineveh repented, God withheld his wrath.
Jonah is 4 chapters long.

Jonah's Anger and the Lord's Compassion
The Book of Jonah chapter 4 But it displeased Jonah exceedingly,[a] and he was angry. 2 And he prayed to the Lord and said, “O Lord, is not this what I said when I was yet in my country? That is why I made haste to flee to Tarshish; for I knew that you are a gracious God and merciful, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, and relenting from disaster. 3 Therefore now, O Lord, please take my life from me, for it is better for me to die than to live.” 4 And the Lord said, “Do you do well to be angry?”

5 Jonah went out of the city and sat to the east of the city and made a booth for himself there. He sat under it in the shade, till he should see what would become of the city. 6 Now the Lord God appointed a plant[b] and made it come up over Jonah, that it might be a shade over his head, to save him from his discomfort.[c] So Jonah was exceedingly glad because of the plant. 7 But when dawn came up the next day, God appointed a worm that attacked the plant, so that it withered. 8 When the sun rose, God appointed a scorching east wind, and the sun beat down on the head of Jonah so that he was faint. And he asked that he might die and said, “It is better for me to die than to live.” 9 But God said to Jonah, “Do you do well to be angry for the plant?” And he said, “Yes, I do well to be angry, angry enough to die.” 10 And the Lord said, “You pity the plant, for which you did not labor, nor did you make it grow, which came into being in a night and perished in a night. 11 And should not I pity Nineveh, that great city, in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know their right hand from their left, and also much cattle?”

Footnotes:

1. [a]Jonah 4:1 Hebrew it was exceedingly evil to Jonah
2. Jonah 4:6 Hebrew qiqayon, probably the castor oil plant; also verses 7, 9, 10
   [*][c]Jonah 4:6 Or his evil

To think Jonah was alive as himself in Sheol one has to show those scriptures that inform us the full living flesh, human with their soul, is able to go to the place of the dead, and then return back to life. And when we are told the Rephaim, the spirits of the departed dead, reside there.

Maybe if I post the scriptures you can see it easier.

Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.

Psalm 40:2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.

Lamentations 3:55-58
55 I called upon thy name, O Lord, out of the low dungeon.
56 Thou hast heard my voice: hide not thine ear at my breathing, at my cry.
57 Thou drewest near in the day that I called upon thee: thou saidst, Fear not.
58 O Lord, thou hast pleaded the causes of my soul; thou hast redeemed my life.

Job 33:29-30
29 Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man,
30 To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.


Now just compare these scriptures and listen to what they say INSTEAD of your pre-conceived ideas of what you think MUST be.

It should be pretty obvious that they are describing the same place from where they require deliverance and ONLY the Lord can deliver them from this place.

Compare the bolded black then compare what happens afterward in red.


I can't MAKE you see it but I'm sure there must be some that do.

Words are important to God. None of the words in the Jonah account match the ones you've posted. When you compare Scripture to Scripture it is a comparison of words. Hell has bars. Jonah experienced corruption. The Lord did not experience corruption because He's greater than Jonah. Jonah was in hell out of his disobedience. The Lord chose to go there to preach victory over death and hell. Jonah was resurrected the third day and prayed from the whale's belly. The prayer at this point was a thankful prayer for being delivered and yet, he is still in the belly of the whale. He was delivered from hell.

Rather than answer a question with a question I think you should answer directly the question put to you as pertains to your allusion about Jesus. The question was: "Are you saying that Christ did not die for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried and rose again the third day? "

Ok lets deal with this bot by bit. Starting with the starting assertion: You imply that a wicked man, when he dies, is under no further punishment.

Now I refer you to your RED highlighted section above.

Now my counter scripture to you (starting at the very beginning):

Genesis 2
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

- we all know that Adam did not physically die that day, the day he ate it. Something else happened. He died spiritually (seperation from God).

Now my second counter verse:

Revelation 14
9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

- God does not lie.

Words are important to God. None of the words in the Jonah account match the ones you've posted. When you compare Scripture to Scripture it is a comparison of words. Hell has bars. Jonah experienced corruption. The Lord did not experience corruption because He's greater than Jonah. Jonah was in hell out of his disobedience. The Lord chose to go there to preach victory over death and hell. Jonah was resurrected the third day and prayed from the whale's belly. The prayer at this point was a thankful prayer for being delivered and yet, he is still in the belly of the whale. He was delivered from hell.

Jonah wasn't resurrected because he didn't die. He was in the belly of the fish for 3 days and 3 nights and then was let out. Because he prayed to God.

Jonah didn't preach to the captives. Jonah is not a type of Christ.


If you read the scripture a little more carefully you will see Jonah is describing the same things as David and whoever wrote Lamentations and Job.

The only signs Jesus gave about Jonah is 3 days and 3 nights...very clear....

If Jonah didn't die and his soul went to hell, then the Lord didn't die. Jesus stated, as Jonah so am I. But the Lord's body did not see corruption as Jonah experienced.

Do you really believed that Jonah died and didnt see corruption....

Well i guess that from your belief Jesus is not the only Holy One.
Psa 16:10 KJV For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

See this should apply only to the Holy One..Jesus...
Maybe your jesus is just a copycat?

Did you even read what I posted? The Lord's body didn't see corruption. Jonah's body did see corruption. The bible states that Jonah was brought up from corruption, but the Lord never saw it, as you posted.

I saw it....
Who can see/verify that the body already seen corruption or not???
The uncontested evidence is the resurrection...
If u claimed that jonah was resurrected...then he is the first holy one before Jesus.
Also. Is it the body or his life that suffer corruption...like because of his affliction...
Jon 2:6 KJV I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

Words are important to God. None of the words in the Jonah account match the ones you've posted. When you compare Scripture to Scripture it is a comparison of words. Hell has bars. Jonah experienced corruption. The Lord did not experience corruption because He's greater than Jonah. Jonah was in hell out of his disobedience. The Lord chose to go there to preach victory over death and hell. Jonah was resurrected the third day and prayed from the whale's belly. The prayer at this point was a thankful prayer for being delivered and yet, he is still in the belly of the whale. He was delivered from hell.

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● Eccl 12:7 . .Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit
shall return unto God who gave it.

The second half of that passage is what interests me the most because
Adam's body was made of the dust of the earth, but his soul wasn't made
like that. According to Gen 2;7, the breath of life made Adam's soul.

So; I think it's fairly safe to assume that where Ecc 12:7 says that the spirit
shall return to God, it's talking about God laying claim to a dead person's
soul; and that is a very, very unnerving proposition.

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Heb 10:31)

According to Matt 10:28, assassins can take the life of a man's body, but
they are powerless to take the life of a man's soul; which means that a
man's death doesn't terminate his existence; there's still God to reckon with.

● Matt 10:28 . . Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill
the soul. Rather, be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in
hell.

The Greek word for "hell" in that verse isn't hades, it's geena (gheh' en-nah)
i.e. the sum of all fears. So then, the rich man incarcerated in hades as per
Luke 16:19-31 still has his soul and won't lose it till he's transferred to
geena during the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 were
people will undergo a gruesome termination akin to a foundry worker falling
into a kettle of molten iron.

● Matt 16:26 . .What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world,
yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?

There are far too many people on internet forums casually discussing the
sum of all fears as if they're in a Jane Austen book club discussing a chapter
of Pride And Prejudice. Well; let me say to those grasshoppers: the hades
described in Luke 16:19-31 is bad enough, but the geena of Isa 66:23-24,
Matt 10:28, and Mark 9:43-48 is much worse because it's in there where
people lose their human souls and quite possibly given a demonic soul in
exchange.

I'm not claiming the part I said about a demonic soul is true; I'm only
suggesting it's a distinct possibility because the lake of fire wasn't initially
constructed for humans, rather it was initially constructed for the Devil and
his angels. (Matt 25:41)
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You're spiritualizing the passage instead of taking it literally. Jonah is a type of Christ. He is an exception. The exception proves the rule. This is why Jesus can use Jonah as a type of what He was going to do.