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So I did not claim to be OSAS then. Sounds good to me 
I see no benefit in following a doctrine, like conditional security, that relies on oneself to secure salvation
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So I did not claim to be OSAS then. Sounds good to me
Sounds good to me. Good to know I have been covet about you all along
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Thank you dear brother, that is truly stirring.
And I agree assurance is key, knowing you are His and He is yours. The interplay with our strengths and weaknesses is different from individual to individual. Take apostle Peter swayed by the circumcision group and Paul standing firm in grace and freedom.
Patience, endurance, faithfulness are key gifts of the Spirit, and time helps mold us into Children of God.
In a bible study group we looked at Jesus saying we would get 100 times reward and persecutions.
Now one lady in the group who worries a lot, needed to have persecutions put into context, of standing firm
for Christ despite opposition, not being martyred for the cause after torture, though some have been called
to this, it is unusual. And whatever comes, the Lord helps with that step every time.
And I agree assurance is key, knowing you are His and He is yours. The interplay with our strengths and weaknesses is different from individual to individual. Take apostle Peter swayed by the circumcision group and Paul standing firm in grace and freedom.
Patience, endurance, faithfulness are key gifts of the Spirit, and time helps mold us into Children of God.
In a bible study group we looked at Jesus saying we would get 100 times reward and persecutions.
Now one lady in the group who worries a lot, needed to have persecutions put into context, of standing firm
for Christ despite opposition, not being martyred for the cause after torture, though some have been called
to this, it is unusual. And whatever comes, the Lord helps with that step every time.
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It feels like we are in agreement despite our earlier...... somewhat less concise discussion.😁
We both understand in Christ.... the body of Christ (the church) there is wheat.... and there are tares among the wheat....
You would agree both peter and paul were equally saved even if they were not equally correct in certain areas or even if peter made the .... choice to deny Jesus multiple times...
right?
(sorry for so many questions... many of us have been here for so long and been falsely accused or dealt with less than honest people... I personally see this as a lovely place for e-fellowship and worship and just talking about God who we love so much... It is nice to find brothers and sisters who have been shown the same things we have learned and its also nice to know certain beliefs that can show a lot about where someone is currently in their understanding)
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You have been correct? Odd, you said I claimed to be OSAS, when I had not.
That is the strangest logical conclusion I have come across. Are you addicted to being right
or appearing to be, even when you are not and cannot admit it? lol
That is the strangest logical conclusion I have come across. Are you addicted to being right
or appearing to be, even when you are not and cannot admit it? lol
osas simply means once saved always saved
I am not arguing a doctrine but a position
No I am not addicted. I am just sick of people who like to play games
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I believe he believes in the most literal definition of eternal security.
We may but heads at some places but from his answers he does seem to believe that children of God, are saved indeed and he does seem to understand the level of our spiritual maturity is not tied to what keeps us saved...
though I may be wrong....
maybe he just doesnt like the labels🤣
I personally prefer "eternal security" but either way I know that God doesn't lose or fail and if He says we can know we have eternal life
i believe Him
if He said to be confident He will continue in us
I won't doubt
We may but heads at some places but from his answers he does seem to believe that children of God, are saved indeed and he does seem to understand the level of our spiritual maturity is not tied to what keeps us saved...
though I may be wrong....
maybe he just doesnt like the labels🤣
I personally prefer "eternal security" but either way I know that God doesn't lose or fail and if He says we can know we have eternal life
i believe Him
if He said to be confident He will continue in us
I won't doubt
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As you are correct about me what election position do you think I hold?
Surely with your knowledge of theology I must fit into one of your boxes?
After you have answered I will check to see if I agree
Surely with your knowledge of theology I must fit into one of your boxes?
After you have answered I will check to see if I agree