How are we supposed to gain the reward of salvation if we do not earn it.....
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How are we supposed to gain the reward of salvation if we do not earn it.....
How are we supposed to gain the reward of salvation if we do not earn it.....
WHOA WHOA WHOA......
GUYS
Romans 3:24-26
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Why does the bible call it a gift all of a sudden?!
Does this mean.... no no no
.... we couldn't have God's mercy and the righteousness of Christ to place out hope in right?.... That would be unbelievable.
How could that be when the way of the world which seems right to man is to work and earn..... Surely we could do enough to keep something as precious as salvation with a little help..... God just needs to give us a push and then suuuuurely we could do enough to earn what He offers based on merit....
i looked at it i like the song imagine this is what they used to sing and now its just mumble rap promoting sin.
swengy is the word i would use. and if its not a word it is now.
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EleventhHour
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No coincidence for sure.....absolutely agree!!!
hahaha. sounds like something sergeant would tell us in the army. its like this: one person dont make their bed right in the morning and we all had to take our matresses with us and in our boxers run around the compound in -20celcius degrees then we do bed again and if wrong again then run again.
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EleventhHour
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Oh Melach....you do not know how many times I have thought the exact same thing!!
amen im glad you are happy but im also worried after i read yippee dancing down the hallways..... ok all good so far but then you drop the boom........... "at work". oh oh. work!
you are suggesting work and fun in the same sentence. scary thought! what do you do for work btw?
these guys are really talented. have you noticed also how english language is really nice the elisabethian english? the king james english. really sophisticated sounding. i love it.
thats why i like the kjv
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EleventhHour
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I bring the fun to work.... only way to survive and if you get kids/people dancing they have fun too!
Not by works but by sin they cry ............
Not by works but by cleansing and purity that comes through Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour they cry ............
If we are not cleansed then how can we ever be pure and holy, only sin remains, but then there is no love and communion with God and we have sacrificed the only relationship in the world that could save us.
Not by works but by cleansing and purity that comes through Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour they cry ............
If we are not cleansed then how can we ever be pure and holy, only sin remains, but then there is no love and communion with God and we have sacrificed the only relationship in the world that could save us.
Are you making up stories?
Who cried we are saved by sin?
Who argued to not have a relationship with God?
Not by works but by sin they cry ............
Not by works but by cleansing and purity that comes through Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour they cry ............
If we are not cleansed then how can we ever be pure and holy, only sin remains, but then there is no love and communion with God and we have sacrificed the only relationship in the world that could save us.
As normal without specifics, the label is unhelpful. Many denominations would agree with the statement above.
But maybe this group here are very far away from the central protestant theological consensus.
i cant wait to be married really. is anyone here single for a long time? how on earth do you avoid fornication for that long time like apostle st.paul and others? come on man.
before any works salvationist gets too excited no i didnt just fornicate lolz im just saying in general.
i used to think its just my fleshly thinking but i found this verse bible proves me right:
1 Corinthians 7:2
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
before any works salvationist gets too excited no i didnt just fornicate lolz im just saying in general.
i used to think its just my fleshly thinking but i found this verse bible proves me right:
1 Corinthians 7:2
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
We avoid it by fleeing from the temptations and praying for deliverance from them when they blindside us.
I have not so much as held a ladies hand since being made new but literally months before this wouldn't be above casually having relations with women and not thinking twice about it being "wrong"....
Finding a loving wife or husband who is in Christ is amazing for many reasons outside of a sexual but also holy relationship. Though to avoid fornication but also have a physically intimate relationship you must marry.
(one man, one woman in marriage = no fornication)
How are we supposed to gain the reward of salvation if we do not earn it.....
You have got to be kidding me?
IT IS NOT A REWARD. HEAVEN REWARDS ARE IMPERISHABLE LAUREL WREATH CROWNS.
Salvation is a FREE GIFT, which does not require any form of payment.
Ephesians 2:8-9 (NJB)
8 Because it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith; not by anything of your own, but by a gift from God;
9 not by anything that you have done, so that nobody can claim the credit.
Romans 11:29 (HCSB)
29 since God’s gracious gifts and calling are irrevocable.
2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.
John 4:10 (NCV)
10 Jesus said, “If you only knew the free gift of God and who it is that is asking you for water, you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.“
Romans 5:15-17 (NCV)
15 But God’s free gift is not like Adam’s sin. Many people died because of the sin of that one man. But the grace from God was much greater; many people received God’s gift of life by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ.
16 After Adam sinned once, he was judged guilty. But the gift of God is different. God’s free gift came after many sins, and it makes people right with God.
17 One man sinned, and so death ruled all people because of that one man. But now those people who accept God’s full grace and the great gift of being made right with him will surely have true life and rule through the one man, Jesus Christ.
Romans 6:23 (NRSV)
23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
John 14:15 (HCSB)
15 “If you love Me, [the very first moment you genuinely LOVED HIM, YOU ARE ETERNALLY SAVED.]
you will keep My commands. [then after that, obedience is a result of that LOVE, and NEVER WAS PART OF SALVATION.]
No, we are not perfect at it, but the NEW NATURE of our born again human spirit, is to strive to obey HIM out of LOVE.
You have got to be kidding me?
IT IS NOT A REWARD. HEAVEN REWARDS ARE IMPERISHABLE LAUREL WREATH CROWNS.
Salvation is a FREE GIFT, which does not require any form of payment.
Ephesians 2:8-9 (NJB)
8 Because it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith; not by anything of your own, but by a gift from God;
9 not by anything that you have done, so that nobody can claim the credit.
Romans 11:29 (HCSB)
29 since God’s gracious gifts and calling are irrevocable.
2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.
John 4:10 (NCV)
10 Jesus said, “If you only knew the free gift of God and who it is that is asking you for water, you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.“
Romans 5:15-17 (NCV)
15 But God’s free gift is not like Adam’s sin. Many people died because of the sin of that one man. But the grace from God was much greater; many people received God’s gift of life by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ.
16 After Adam sinned once, he was judged guilty. But the gift of God is different. God’s free gift came after many sins, and it makes people right with God.
17 One man sinned, and so death ruled all people because of that one man. But now those people who accept God’s full grace and the great gift of being made right with him will surely have true life and rule through the one man, Jesus Christ.
Romans 6:23 (NRSV)
23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
John 14:15 (HCSB)
15 “If you love Me, [the very first moment you genuinely LOVED HIM, YOU ARE ETERNALLY SAVED.]
you will keep My commands. [then after that, obedience is a result of that LOVE, and NEVER WAS PART OF SALVATION.]
No, we are not perfect at it, but the NEW NATURE of our born again human spirit, is to strive to obey HIM out of LOVE.
I was kidding you.
All glory to God who gives more than we could ever "deserve" to us freely by His grace.
God bless you brother
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Wow that was by accident. Trying to do this on small iPhone. Forgive me and thanks for asking me
Looks like PS may have turned into a RED X troll.