That Hebrews 10v26 Thread

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Chris1975

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garee said:
What I am referring to is what you call a slip. . . willful sin. All sin in willfull in doing the will of oneself or another like the father of lies and not of God. The certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Not the believers. Better things accompany those that believe. A call to repentance.

Its not OSAS that softens our heart but the mixing of faith, the gospel. False pride hardens one.
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These adversaries were at one point sanctified. Therefore it cannot be your interpretation.
 
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Melach said:
maybe i am hyper sensitive because i read it and usually take it for what it says.

you can imagine my horror when i read that anyone born of God wont sin. there are many like total statements like that in the bible so i was hyper focused on that one thing instead of looking at the whole message.

like in revelation it says here are those who keep commandments of God, i would take it hyper sensitive that this means they are 100% perfect in keeping commandments but thats not what it means i know now. its in general i believe.
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Which ones are you free to break then?
 
Melach

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Chris1975 said:
Which ones are you free to break then?
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none but again i bring it back to you sir. are you saying its 100%? you always keep 100% of God's commandments yes or no?

no duckin yes or no
 
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OneOfHis said:
Proof?




"Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:"
Romans 3:24, KJV
Titus 3:5
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Romans 8:38-39
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Philippians 1:6
6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:


"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."

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This only proves that you don't understand what these verses are talking about. These verses are true to those who will stand victorious in the end.

For example, grace of God applies to all mankind:

Titus 2:11For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men.

But not all men are saved, so what?
 
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Melach said:
maybe i am hyper sensitive because i read it and usually take it for what it says.

you can imagine my horror when i read that anyone born of God wont sin. there are many like total statements like that in the bible so i was hyper focused on that one thing instead of looking at the whole message.

like in revelation it says here are those who keep commandments of God, i would take it hyper sensitive that this means they are 100% perfect in keeping commandments but thats not what it means i know now. its in general i believe.
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One must look at the definition of "keep." Works salvationists especially.
 
Melach

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@Chris1975 what do you say about this: i believe you can turn to other gods and come back. because israel turned to other gods in o.t. all the time and God said come back and i receive you. its same now. i know people who were christians they became muslims and odinists and then came back to Christ have been for years now
 
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EleventhHour said:
Are you telling me in this post you do not know the plan of salvation as laid out in the Gospels?
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Can i assume that you can not give the answers i'm looking for according to your understanding of the gospels which you claim are 'true'?

Let me know so that i can go ahead with my test.
 
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Melach said:
none but again i bring it back to you sir. are you saying its 100%? you always keep 100% of God's commandments yes or no?

no duckin yes or no
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I am 100% repentant. When something is brought to mind by the HS I am grieved and I stop it.
 
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I am 100% repentant. When something is brought to mind by the HS I am grieved and I stop it.
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If Jesus did not die for all sins, past, present and future ... no amount of repentance is going to save us.
 
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I am 100% repentant. When something is brought to mind by the HS I am grieved and I stop it.
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You sure rely on yourself a lot for salvation.... one would think you do not need a Saviour...hmmm :unsure::cautious::confused:

Makes sense since you have to atone for your own sins and any future sins.

Good luck with that.
 
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EleventhHour said:
If Jesus did not die for all sins, past present and future ... no amount of repentance is going to save us.
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Amen! Even more than that. The law is no longer at play because Jesus nailed it to the cross. For example, do not steal is no longer a law against me. There is no law against me saying not to steal, so if I steal, I cannot be found guilty. Now, in time, we should not sin because it's not a righteous practice, but if I steal, I am not a thief in God's eyes. Does that make sense?

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
 
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Noose said:
Can i assume that you can not give the answers i'm looking for according to your understanding of the gospels which you claim are 'true'?

Let me know so that i can go ahead with my test.
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Your test... too funny.

Truth stands on its own... and only the Holy Spirit reveals truth and better we do not test God
 
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John146 said:
Amen! Even more than that. The law is no longer at play because Jesus nailed it to the cross. For example, do not steal is no longer a law against me. There is no law against me saying not to steal, so if I steal, I cannot be found guilty. Now, in time, we should not sin because it's not a righteous practice, but if I steal, I am not a thief in God's eyes. Does that make sense?

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
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Absolutely ... hard truth most cannot come to grips with because they are bent on their own righteousness and or legalism.
 
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Chris1975 said:
I am 100% repentant. When something is brought to mind by the HS I am grieved and I stop it.
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i knew it. you ducked the question. i asked if you are 100% of time keeping God's commandments yes or no.
you said you are 100% repentant well so am i.

lets try again yes or no?
 
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EleventhHour said:
Your test... too funny.

Truth stands on its own... and only the Holy Spirit reveals truth and better we do not test God
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But you are not God, i was testing you and more specifically, OSAS which you can not defend i suppose- then how is it truth?
 
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John146 said:
Amen! Even more than that. The law is no longer at play because Jesus nailed it to the cross. For example, do not steal is no longer a law against me. There is no law against me saying not to steal, so if I steal, I cannot be found guilty. Now, in time, we should not sin because it's not a righteous practice, but if I steal, I am not a thief in God's eyes. Does that make sense?

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
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If you steal, you have broken the law; the law of love. The one who hates is a murderer and there's no eternal life in him.

The law was not abolished, you must keep it.
 
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But you are not God, i was testing you and more specifically, OSAS which you can not defend i suppose- then how is it truth?
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Back to square one since you have gotten me off track.

So I am not interested in your three questions/premises ... use scripture and prove you premise using proper hermeneutics.
 
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