All things James

The same Holy Spirit wrote the entire bible.

He did not give 2 gospels to 2 groups.

You guys claim the Holy Spirit inspired peter and others to proclaim a different gospel.

But to think peter and co. Preached another gospel to the jews,and then they get saved INSPITE OF the Holy Spirits false leading????

AND THEN WHAT?? Are they then somehow enlightened to stay away from peters false gospel??????

So did paul keep the commandments?

In the tribulation, one has to live by faith and keep the commandments of God. James is warning them not to have this faith with respect of persons. In the tribulation, they must rely on each other and have all things in common to endure to the end.

Here’s how a tribulation saint must live:

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Right on! Where did you learn to rightly divide the word? Just curious.

How about this verse? This sounds like works. Jesus must be preaching to the Jews and healing the sick because the Jews need proof to believe.


Matthew 7:21 KJV

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Are you trying to argue that the epistle was for 'the tribulation' in the past, the future, or something else?

The Holy Spirit led me to youtube, then I studied the Word deeper and was enlightened. I enjoy reading the Bible now than before because I can see more clearly. James 2:24 is confusing and some people will attempt to explain it with a very long detailed and more confusing explanation like a thesis, when you can just get it easily by rightly dividing. I don't think it is God's will to make a single verse that complicated. There is no other way around it but to rightly divide.

This is from God and it IS works. Man has spoken against working for the Lord, scripture does not do this.

Because of the fall of man brought on by the first man we are born in sin, and man born in sin cannot be sinless, cannot save himself. God in his mercy saved us through Christ. Sin is death, our works won't save us. God is against sin, and when we accept our righteousness through Christ we must also accept being against sin and work for righteousness. If you are not also against sin and death with the Lord, then you are no saved. This scripture is telling us this.

This is from God and it IS works. Man has spoken against working for the Lord, scripture does not do this.

Because of the fall of man brought on by the first man we are born in sin, and man born in sin cannot be sinless, cannot save himself. God in his mercy saved us through Christ. Sin is death, our works won't save us. God is against sin, and when we accept our righteousness through Christ we must also accept being against sin and work for righteousness. If you are not also against sin and death with the Lord, then you are no saved. This scripture is telling us this.

The Holy Spirit led me to youtube, then I studied the Word deeper and was enlightened. I enjoy reading the Bible now than before because I can see more clearly. James 2:24 is confusing and some people will attempt to explain it with a very long detailed and more confusing explanation like a thesis, when you can just get it easily by rightly dividing. I don't think it is God's will to make a single verse that complicated. There is no other way around it but to rightly divide.

Agreed, but not applied to the Church but the Jews as their kingdom was at hand.

Everything you read in scripture is colored by you dividing scripture up so you can ignore some if you want to. I read that God is a universal God, He is the same God for all people so you and I read the same scripture and it tells us completely different things. We find in scripture that God divides us by our faith, only, not by our parentage.

Not after his conversion. He never went to the priest as the law commanded. He didn’t care about keeping the sabbath or not eating certain things.

Works can save. Jesus Himself said those words. But He was speaking to the Jews not to me or you. I am saved by faith not by works because I am not a Jew and we are in the Church age.

The gospel was preached to those in paradise.
No one was ever saved by works.

How do you understand Matthew 10:5 then?

How do you understand Matthew 10:5 then?

You understand Matthew 10v5 with Matthew 22v8-9
8 Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy. 9 Therefore go into the highways, and as many as you find, invite to the wedding.’

It is still the same wedding. The invite had to be rejected (corporately) for the offer to open (corporately) to the Gentile nations.

I think we need to understand the entire history of Jew and gentile to see what God sees in the two. In the OT, to say gentile was to say heathen for there was no gentile nation that acknowledged the Lord. When a person did, like Ruth did, they were welcomed into the Jewish nation. We also know that God thought of the national nation of Israel was given a special mission, to show God to the world, and thought of separately for that with a special blessing. Christ said He was first for this nation, and second opened up salvation for the people who did not know Him: the gentiles.

But basically, through all that happened in the world, we need to keep in mind that our God is the same God who created all humanity. God is eternal, God is the very same as the God of the people who lived even before the flood.

So its true that even Jesus separated people into Jews and Gentiles and excluded the latter from his ministry in the 4 Gospels.

Yes but not so quick there with your conclusions. Yes in terms of coming to His people, for the promises were to them. When they rejected Him, the Way was opened to the Gentiles.

But not in respect of the words spoken by the WORD. Jesus is the Word and the word applies to all. To everybody (Gentiles in this instance) who calls upon Jesus will be GRAFTED INTO THE VINE. We partake of the same root.

We cannot divorce His words from us Gentiles if you are grafted in.