Rejecting Homosexuality in all its Expressions Without Hurting or Judging Others is Vital to Being a Christian in Good Standing

Agree with this but don’t you think the Lord can deliver that person forever so they can go on to live a natural life? Get married, have a family?

Yes, in the same way God can deliver someone from proclivities toward addiction, pornography, and lustful thought lives. He can do it, but that doesn't mean it always happens. What I mean to say is that while God surely can deliver someone from whatever their thorn is, that doesn't mean He will. And if He does not, we should not rain down our judgement upon said person. It is their burden to carry, and bless them for carrying it with the loving guidance of God. I have a sister who has experienced same-sex attraction ever since she was young. For many years she has prayed to God to remove the temptation she feels around women. While He did not remove these feelings, He gave her the strength to guard her heart against them. I believe this is a reality for people struggling with any sort of sin. If God just removed our sinful thoughts or even the temptation to sin, we wouldn't need Him anymore. However, a thorn like this constantly reminds the bearer of their dependence on God. While it may not be a thorn that is acceptable in Christian circles, the nature of it is the same: it is all sin and unfortunately we are all sinners. This does not mean that each person will experience same-sex attraction, but I do certainly believe we should always extend the same love and empathy to those who feel this way. My sister always says she wishes she was not attracted to women: this is not her choice the same way a tendency for alcoholism, gambling, or laziness isn't a choice. We all have flaws and we're all predisposed to certain types of sin. God has the power to remove these flaws, but more often than not He instead gives us the strength to rely on Him and resist all temptation, no matter what it is.

Agree with this but don’t you think the Lord can deliver that person forever so they can go on to live a natural life? Get married, have a family?

A life free of sin or temptation from sin? Unfortunately, that would be a very unnatural life. I think the issue is not so much whether or not people who experience same-sex attraction can have a "natural" life but rather a God-honoring, fulfilling life.

I thought you knew what I meant. Attraction to the opposite sex is natural. Attraction to the same sex is unnatural. You cannot be attracted to the same sex and live a God honoring life.

I agree that same-sex attraction is unnatural, but I strongly disagree with your claim that anyone who experiences same-sex attraction cannot live a God-honoring life. I cannot convince you otherwise so I will instead pray that God heals the judgement you feel in your heart for people who are tempted differently than you are. God bless.

I think gay Christians do love Jesus and want to honor God. There have been recent studies saying that everyone is bisexual (based on observing how much people's eyes dilate when viewing different types of porn), and that there are various degrees of bisexuality. One of my previous pastors who was strongly against gay marriage pointed to these studies, that everyone is bisexual, in arguing that homosexual actions is essentially a choice (although admitting also that some struggle more than others).

Would you rather wrestle a gay crocodile, or a heterosexual crocodile? Either way, they don't seem like a cheerful lot...

They're both clearly sinners.

I say let them live and die as they choose. Who's going to try to baptize a crocodile?

I like your sig about sleeping with a mosquito.

This is just what Satan wants our little children to believe. There are many of us out there. Keep your wicks dry, little oysters.

it looks like homosexuality birth control and unnatural birth control are the same thing. is God offended by 2 naked men or women touching each other or is it about preventing the conception of some ones existence. the latter fits in the framework of sin is the absence of love which targets a victim. God knows those people who don't exist as though they did exist. God knows those things in shadow of darkness as though they came to light. prior to 1930 they were against birth control

theindiangirl has no place here!!!

I say let them live and die as they choose. Who's going to try to baptize a crocodile?

*Homophobic* is not only a misnomer (since phobia means fear) but it is another one of those Left-Liberal labels such as islamophobic, or xenophobic etc, which needs to be rejected out of hand.

No one is afraid of homosexuals so why use a misleading term? But it is meant to shut down free speech against sexual perversion, to the point where they do not want preachers preaching about this sin. And it is the Radical Muslims who have foisted *Islamophobia* on the West, so that ordinary citizens cannot speak out against the evils of Radical Islam and must start capitulating to Muslim demands.

1. Interestingly enough, Islamic countries have the death penalty for homosexuality (I will not use the term *gay* since that is another misnomer. These are sad people).
"12 countries where being gay is legally punishable by death: Yemen, Iran, Brunei, Mauritania, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates, Pakistan." (From USA Today)

2. The Law of Moses also had the death penalty for homosexuality: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination... If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Lev 18:22; 20:13)

3. Now here's a Utopian statement: "Rejecting Homosexuality in all its Expressions Without Hurting or Judging Others..."
The problem is that if a Christian were to tell a homosexual person (who asks for an opinion) that this type of sexuality is (a) perverted, (b) sinful, and (c) needs to be repented of -- abandoned, there is no doubt that that person will either be hurt or mad. This is not even a question of *judging* others since what people do behind closed doors is their business. There was a time when it was even against the law in the USA (without the death penalty). Sodomy was a felony punishable by imprisonment or hard labor, and this was decriminalized only recently,

4. The homosexuals in the West are a small part of the population, but because they are well organized, and well funded, they are extremely vocal about their so-called *rights*. But they have gone far beyond that, since no one cares what they do in their bedrooms. However, they want to change the laws of the land as well as the mores of society, so that homosexuality becomes the norm and so does pedophilia. .

5. The majority of politicians wish to *buy* votes by promoting legislation that favors homosexuals, rather than stand up against the pressures of these deviants and perverts. So now we heard recently about even the US military wanting to actually fund transgender operations!

6. Then we have the theologically liberal and apostate denominations ordaining homosexual clergy, and thus perverting Christianity. That simply gives more incentive to homosexuals, who feel it must be *A-OK*.

7. So what should be the position of *a Christian in good standing*? He or she can simply open their Bibles and turn to Romans chapter 1, and tell whoever wants to listen that "This is how God regards homosexuality". And it is serious enough that there is another Scripture (1 Corinthians 6:9) which condemns it altogether so that they cannot enter into the Kingdom of God:

King James Bible
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind...

Some modern versions bring this into more stark reality:

New International Version
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men...

New Living Translation
Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality...

New King James Version
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites...

I understand why people reject homosexuality based on the literal reading of the Bible, and the message is also consistent in both OT and NT. This issue is tricky because supporters of LGBT folks view this matter as a human rights issue, where some people are not being treated equally/fairly as others. To add to this injury, a lot of LGBT folks do face abuse and rejection even from family. So, to respond to the message title, generally speaking with a few exceptions, there really is no way to reject homosexuality without LGBT folks feeling hurt or judged.