3 Tactics Calvinists Use Against Non-Calvinists

Going forward, this may help you understand the adversity you encounter. And why.

Hyper-Calvinism

The Hyper-Calvinist emphasizes the sovereignty of God to such an extent that man's human responsibility is denied. In actuality, Hyper-Calvinism is a rejection of historic Calvinist thought. Hyper-Calvinism denies that the gospel call applies to all; and/or denies that faith is the duty of every sinner; and/or denies the gospel offer to the non-elect; and/or denies that the offer of divine mercy is free and universal; and/or denies that there is such a thing as "common grace"; and/or denies that God has any sort of love for the non-elect. Calvinists do not agree with the Hyper-Calvinists.


This may also assist.

Ephesians 1
Theme
Paul summarizes his gospel of salvation by grace through faith alone and describes the nature and role of the church in God's eternal plan.
Overview
This book answers the question men and women have asked throughout all time: Why am I here? The answer has to do with eternity, making peace with God and understanding the believer’s new identity in Christ. The NIV Quest Study Bible says Paul wrote this letter to believers in Ephesus (a city in modern-day Turkey) to encourage them to think of themselves in a whole new way. He wanted them to think of themselves not as people who had once been involved in idol worship, illicit sex, and foolish philosophies, but as people in Christ—people with a radically new identity. The book offers practical ways to live in unity with God and others.


1 Peter 2
Theme
Peter gives instructions on holy living for those suffering persecution.
Overview
First Peter teaches that God can use difficulties to strengthen Christians and their witness. Knowing this can bring hope. The NIV Quest Study Bible encourages you to read 1 Peter to discover how faith, refined by suffering, can help you see the Lord more clearly. It gives valuable advice for holding firm in difficult times. The apostle Peter saw that increasing hardship and persecution had scattered believers, which spread their witness but caused some to wonder if God had abandoned them. Peter wrote to encourage them, offering them hope and meaning in the midst of their suffering.

Actually, this could also mean that God chose us in Him, in the sense of determining in Christ these blessings before creation, not in the sense that God actually put us (the elect) in Him to be in these blessings before creation.

The real meat of the matter is Romans 9.... thats the best place to show forth the doctrine of election, since Arminian type people have explanations for all these texts aswell, yet in Romans 9 they gotta do some massive hoop jumping, to support there half righteous and half wicked theology.

only hell bound human trash to be shoveled into eternal hell with Satan and the demons.

Going forward, this may help you understand the adversity you encounter. And why.

Hyper-Calvinism

The Hyper-Calvinist emphasizes the sovereignty of God to such an extent that man's human responsibility is denied. In actuality, Hyper-Calvinism is a rejection of historic Calvinist thought. Hyper-Calvinism denies that the gospel call applies to all; and/or denies that faith is the duty of every sinner; and/or denies the gospel offer to the non-elect; and/or denies that the offer of divine mercy is free and universal; and/or denies that there is such a thing as "common grace"; and/or denies that God has any sort of love for the non-elect. Calvinists do not agree with the Hyper-Calvinists.


This may also assist.

Ephesians 1
Theme
Paul summarizes his gospel of salvation by grace through faith alone and describes the nature and role of the church in God's eternal plan.
Overview
This book answers the question men and women have asked throughout all time: Why am I here? The answer has to do with eternity, making peace with God and understanding the believer’s new identity in Christ. The NIV Quest Study Bible says Paul wrote this letter to believers in Ephesus (a city in modern-day Turkey) to encourage them to think of themselves in a whole new way. He wanted them to think of themselves not as people who had once been involved in idol worship, illicit sex, and foolish philosophies, but as people in Christ—people with a radically new identity. The book offers practical ways to live in unity with God and others.


1 Peter 2
Theme
Peter gives instructions on holy living for those suffering persecution.
Overview
First Peter teaches that God can use difficulties to strengthen Christians and their witness. Knowing this can bring hope. The NIV Quest Study Bible encourages you to read 1 Peter to discover how faith, refined by suffering, can help you see the Lord more clearly. It gives valuable advice for holding firm in difficult times. The apostle Peter saw that increasing hardship and persecution had scattered believers, which spread their witness but caused some to wonder if God had abandoned them. Peter wrote to encourage them, offering them hope and meaning in the midst of their suffering.

Here’s your real attitude of those who are so called non- elect. Aw, the pride of Calvinism.

Eph 1:9

"having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself "

Eph 1:10

"that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ"

Wow. Looks like we have here the doctrine of Election and as a bonus, the concept of Dispensationalism. Both of which I agree to as fundamental precepts of theology.

You do err.....
BTW, you have no idea whatsoever of my "real attitude".

Here’s your real attitude of those who are so called non- elect. Aw, the pride of Calvinism.

Yes, God’s salvation plan would come through Jesus Christ. Those who believe the gospel would be placed in Him, in Christ. Once in Christ, they are predestined to be conformed to Jesus Christ through the adoption which is the redemption of the body. The adoption is not salvation. The adoption is promised those who are already saved. That’s the future hope of the believer.

Your rant is nothing less than adolescent misbegotten rubbish, fraught with terrifying implications.

The question being begged is: who else is qualified to choose the elect?
Answer: nobody else but God Himself. Not fallen depraved men, not misguided theologians, not you and not me.

And He did. Yes indeed He did.

BTW...the apostles were under the impression that they chose Christ. Christ of course corrected their error....all duly recorded for all of us to consider.

John 15:16
"You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you."

Doesn't get any clearer than that. Yet the persistent fog of delusion remains.

I have a simple question for the board:

In reference to John 15:16, when exactly did Jesus execute the choosing of His Apostles?
Was it at the river Jordan? When he saw Matthew at the crossroad? When he saw Nathaniel under the tree? After His prayer to the Father on a mountain Luke 6:12-19?

Or before the foundation of the world, before any of them were born?

The when may be your question, but the heart of the matter is, why?

"to such an extent that man's human responsibility is denied"

Absolutely incorrect. Man is FULLY RESPONSIBLE....for his sin.

What you fail to comprehend is that God is FULLY RESPONSIBLE for the salvation of the sinner, including the initiative of the divine CHOICE (aka ELECTION), the necessary sacrifice for the propitiation of sin, the gift of faith required of the believer, and the perseverance such that we endure to the end.

Agree....Romans 9 seals the deal. But really the doctrine of Divine Choice is everywhere. If you care...or dare....to look.
But behind that is Divine Initiation. Without God's premeditated plan of Redemption there would be no Israel, no Christians, no benefactors of Gods Grace, only hell bound human trash to be shoveled into eternal hell with Satan and the demons.

Or before the foundation of the world, before any of them were born?

this is Calvin's little deity that he patterned after his own personality

Agree....Romans 9 seals the deal. But really the doctrine of Divine Choice is everywhere. If you care...or dare....to look.
But behind that is Divine Initiation. Without God's premeditated plan of Redemption there would be no Israel, no Christians, no benefactors of Gods Grace, only hell bound human trash to be shoveled into eternal hell with Satan and the demons.

alas

we know not this puppet master god you rely on

reminds me of the joke where a caveman hits a woman over the head with a club when he takes a fancy to her