Is unconditional election biblical?

John 6:44- No man can come unto me, except the Father which hath sent me draw (or will draw) him; and I will raise him up at the last day, All that the Father draws, or will draw, are going to be raised up at the last day. If he draws all mankind then all mankind will be raised up at the last day. John 6:37 - All that the Father giveth me shall come to me. None that he gives refuses to go.

We can go through it step by step to see cause and effect of your belief.

It was much faster and easier the way I did it.


If you believe in free will and you believe you must conjure belief within yourself to be saved, as whispered does, then everything I stated is true, regardless of how distasteful you find it.


You can worship your will and your understanding or you can worship God.

The Calvinist chooses God.

Simple.

Man is saved eternally by believing Christ died for their sin.

Saved = eternally delivered from the consequence of sin

The problem with my theology is that I don't read what other people post?

Just because I completely disagree with your position doesn't mean I don't understand it. It is BECAUSE I understand it that I disagree.

Now this I truly don't understand.

Only Calvinists are saved? I don't believe that. I don't think many really do.

We are not saved because we understand Gods Ways perfectly.


And you are right. God doesn't care what Calvin thinks. I don't think any of us really cares that much what Calvin thinks. I just think he had a correct way of viewing Salvation and how and why it occurs.

You don't read what people post. Your responses to them is evidence of that. You can't disagree with someone's position when your response to their position has no semblance of relationship to that persons position.

We are delivered eternally by God's sovereign grace without the help of man. After we have been eternally delivered and God looks upon us as holy and without blame as far as our eternal destination is concerned, we still at times commit sins and when we repent of those sins we are delivered (here in time, not eternally because our eternity is secured on the cross) from the consequence of that sin as we live here on earth. We do not lose our eternal deliverance, but we do lose our relationship with God until we repent. If you interpret all salvation (deliverance) scriptures as eternal the scriptures will not harmonize.

The natural man, as described in 1 Cor 2:14, cannot discern the things of the Spirit until he has been born again with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (Eph 2:5). He cannot believe in spiritual things.

Your theology does not harmonize the Gospel scriptures.

God's grace made Salvation possible. God's grace is Jesus the Christ!

You were saved against your will by the god that you believe made you incapable of having a free will.

However, God's grace in scriptures is what began the Salvation road anyone is able to travel, if only they believe. And belief is an act of our will, based on our consent to believe, hold faith, due to our understanding and knowledge of what we're told is there to believe in. That is the words of Jesus that bring us to The Word that is God.
Titus 2:11-14 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12It teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13while we wait for the blessed hope-the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.

Agreed, God’s done all the work and what man must do is believe.

He can with the Holy Spirit’s help. The Holy Spirit convicts and leads the lost man to the knowledge of the gospel and then man’s will can believe or reject.

Jus as a reminder, I do not respond to your posts because you do not read the full content of my posts to know that I do believe that God gave man a free will as to how he wants them to live their lives here on earth. and you do not understand the scriptures. you should study with more depth.

That was the Saint Apostle Paul and his companion Sosthenes letter to the church in Corinth.
Reminiscent of his time as a Pharisee, when he said natural man cannot discern the things of the spirit.

If it were true fallen man and woman could not discern the spiritual things, Jesus , who said He came not for the righteous but for the sick, the sinners, would have been wasting his time standing near the lake of Gennesaret and speaking to a people who you believe could not understand.

The Book of Luke chapter 5
Jesus Calls the First Disciples
1. On one occasion, while the crowd was pressing in on him to hear the word of God, he was standing by (A)the lake of Gennesaret, 2 (B)and he saw two boats by the lake, but the fishermen had gone out of them and were (C)washing their nets. 3 Getting into one of the boats, which was Simon's, he asked him to put out a little from the land. And (D)he sat down and taught the people from the boat. 4 And when he had finished speaking, he said to Simon, (E)“Put out into the deep and let down your nets for a catch.” 5 And Simon answered, “Master, (F)we toiled all night and took nothing! But at your word I will let down the nets.” 6 And when they had done this, (G)they enclosed a large number of fish, and (H)their nets were breaking. 7 They signaled to their partners in the other boat to come and help them. (I)And they came and filled both the boats, so that they began to sink. 8 But when Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, (J)“Depart from me, for (K)I am a sinful man, O Lord.” 9 For he and all who were with him were astonished at the catch of fish that they had taken, 10 and so also were James and John, sons of Zebedee, who were partners with Simon. And Jesus said to Simon, “Do not be afraid; from now on you will be catching men.”[a] 11 And when they had brought their boats to land, (L)they left everything and followed him.


The men that were to be Jesus' Disciples , the reason Jesus performed miracles before the people, was to show everyone watching, truth in action.
In Jesus time there were many false teachers. And likely many claiming to be the messiah.
Jesus however, was Messiah and He showed the people The Word, that is God, giving life to the words spoken by the man they beheld as just a man and named Jesus.
Jesus showed them, gave them knowledge of the truth, when the parable of the fisherman and the empty boats was beheld by all there to witness it.
Without God, we are empty. Our nets are empty of sustenance, fish, God. But with God, Jesus in the boat telling the fishermen to cast their nets out again, to have faith, we are full. Which is why the empty nets cast out were miraculously filled up when Jesus was there telling the people why they should have faith. And then showing them what having faith would do for their lives.

A people who sustain themselves on fishing get the message. Jesus literally led by example.
And people came then to the knowledge of the truth and had faith.

Jesus would have not had to do any of the miracles He did to show God's word in action, if man has no part in their coming to faith. When God makes a person to be in His grace, and then makes them to have faith, because that is a teaching that first says, man has no free will and is so totally immorally depraved as to be unable to come into faith of their own accord, that is saying God is actually changing in all of humanity what He created in the beginning all humanity to be; totally depraved.

God is no respecter of persons. God is not a man that he should lie. God does NOT change!

Your theology is error.

The only man that the Holy Spirit leads is the man that has been born again with the indwelling of the Holy spirit, not the natural man that cannot discern the things of the Spirit and thinks they are foolishness. Jesus instructed his Apostles to go and preach to the lost sheep (born again of the Spirit) of the house of Israel, not to the natural man that cannot discern the things of the Spirit and thinks they are foolish.

NO, no, no, no, no!

That is not what Calvinism teaches! Calvinism teaches GOD CHOSE THE CALVINIST!

It is a mistake to think people who disagree with your theology do not read the Bible. In fact, your theology does not reflect the harmony of the Gospel.
And when you say God gave man free will as to how He wants them to live their lives here on earth, do you believe that free will also enables man, without God making them to, to choose to follow God? Can man choose to have faith?

Opinions shouldn’t make doctrine.

Scripture refutes that.

Nor is it correct when you say, "Jesus instructed his Apostles to go and preach to the lost sheep (born again of the Spirit) of the house of Israel, not to the natural man that cannot discern the things of the Spirit and thinks they are foolish,"
Those who are born again have already heard the Good News.

Jesus instructed his Apostles to go into the world and spread the good news. The Book of Mark chapter 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the [c]gospel to the whole creation. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned. 16

32. "I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." The Book of Luke chapter 5

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” The Book of Romans chapter 10 verse 17

36.Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly, that God hath made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified. “Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” The Book of Acts chapter 2


See, The Seed Principle. The parable of the sower? The seed is the word of God, the Gospel.

True.
Believers accept the crucifixion of Jesus as the start of their being delivered from the sins Jesus took upon himself there on the cross.

1 Cor 2: 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The passage in the context being in reference to the things not received by the natural man are things that God hath prepared to the believers. V9. These are foolishness unto him. But this does not teach that we are not to preach the Gospel to the lost. salvation is not in the context here but the deep things of God. Paul strived to preach the gospel not where Christ was named...and used plainness of speech as a demonstration of the Spirit and of power so the lost would understand and by the conviction of the Holy Spirit, the lost would response simply by faith.

Romans 15:20 King James Version (KJV)
20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation:

1 Corinthians 2 King James Version (KJV)
2:1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.