Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

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Dan_473

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It would be on the 22nd day of a month of 30 days. Not all the months of the Jewish calendar are 30 days. And yes, sunrise and sunset are points in time for evening and day. It can vary depending on where you are on the earth, but one could say around 6:00pm and 6:00am respectively.
so it sounds like right around 6 a.m. on the 22nd day of one of the months that have 30 days. How many months will have 30 days in 2026?
 
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And this is where we see your story starts falling apart. You've identified the first 3 beasts of Daniel correctly, but then you jump ahead over 2,000 years after Greece completely ignoring over 2,000 years of Roman history. Then, you cannot concretely identify none of the heads of the first beast of Revelation. Then you cannot identify who is the second beast of Revelation, and you relate him to some mystical man, unaware that it symbolizes a specific kingdom just like all the other previous beasts do. Then you say the image of the beast is some idol everyone on earth will somehow worship, apparently even atheists who believe in no gods. And you also cannot identify the prostitute of Babylon, and why she is seated on the first beast of Revelation, and how she rules over all the kingdoms of the earth, and which city that has seven mountains would fulfill all these characteristics. And then some other nonsense that is all incoherent and all over the place and that makes no sense and is full of imagination. This is why I make people who refute the truth try to interpret these visions, so that they can see how absurd their own explanations are, and perhaps through that come to the actual logical truth. Here is my logical explanation of the visions of Daniel and Revelation http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/12/0...the-mark-of-the-beast-and-the-meaning-of-666/
No, I did not skip over Rome, Rome and Greece are one and the same system; same race, same religion, same spirit. Remember the same prophecy states the three beasts lives will be prolonged.

The man of sin, whom is the second beast of Revelation, has not been revealed yet, but he will be towards the End.

Yes, even atheists will worship the Beast's image. Atheism is really not a new false religion, it really is just a continuation of earth and astral worship. We know from Daniel that the religion instituted by that King is to a god which their fathers did not know.

Well the whore of Babylon is that city that drank the blood of the prophets, that city which is called a whore by God multiple times in the Old Testament, that city where our Lord and Savior was crucified, and which has seven mountains around her, a city which all the great powers of history have sought to control until this very day. We know that Rome doesn't have any of these characteristics, but that the city Jerusalem has all of them.
 
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so it sounds like right around 6 a.m. on the 22nd day of one of the months that have 30 days. How many months will have 30 days in 2026?
Since Elul only has 29 days it would actually not be Elul 22 but Elul 21 in the Jewish calendar, for New Moon 6 Day 22, which was previously 30 days in the ancient calendar of the Torah. Here you can see which months have 29 days https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_calendar .
 
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No, I did not skip over Rome, Rome and Greece are one and the same system; same race, same religion, same spirit. Remember the same prophecy states the three beasts lives will be prolonged.

The man of sin, whom is the second beast of Revelation, has not been revealed yet, but he will be towards the End.

Yes, even atheists will worship the Beast's image. Atheism is really not a new false religion, it really is just a continuation of earth and astral worship. We know from Daniel that the religion instituted by that King is to a god which their fathers did not know.

Well the whore of Babylon is that city that drank the blood of the prophets, that city which is called a whore by God multiple times in the Old Testament, that city where our Lord and Savior was crucified, and which has seven mountains around her, a city which all the great powers of history have sought to control until this very day. We know that Rome doesn't have any of these characteristics, but that the city Jerusalem has all of them.
The Romans and the Greeks are two different peoples. Persecution and inquisitions and massacres came not through the Greeks, but through the Romans, in accordance to prophecy.
 

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The Romans and the Greeks are two different peoples. Persecution and inquisitions and massacres came not through the Greeks, but through the Romans, in accordance to prophecy.
No that's not true. Rome and Greece are the same race - Javan. Even the Romans and Greeks own sources indicate they are the same race. One also examines that they had the same exact religion, Hellenism, the same false gods, the same philosophies, etc. Persecutions did indeed occur by the Greeks, this is most notable in the famous story of the Maccabees.
 
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It has to be a month with 29 days, and not 30 days?
Not that it has to be, its just what it is, Elul comes before Tishri, and Elul only has 29 days. Therefore Elul 21 would be the correct timing in the Jewish calendar which would be equivalent to New Moon 6 Day 22 of the ancient calendar of the Torah, which were all 30 day months.
 
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No that's not true. Rome and Greece are the same race - Javan. Even the Romans and Greeks own sources indicate they are the same race. One also examines that they had the same exact religion, Hellenism, the same false gods, the same philosophies, etc. Persecutions did indeed occur by the Greeks, this is most notable in the famous story of the Maccabees.
Indeed persecution came from the Greeks, and that was prophesied to happen through the 3rd beast of Daniel. But then persecution came from the 4th beast of Daniel, which were the Romans, for 42 prophetic months in accordance to Revelation, which is 1,260 literal years.
 

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Not that it has to be, its just what it is, Elul comes before Tishri, and Elul only has 29 days. Therefore Elul 21 would be the correct timing in the Jewish calendar which would be equivalent to New Moon 6 Day 22 of the ancient calendar of the Torah, which were all 30 day months.
Which would correspond to September 4th, 2026, at about 6 a.m. ?
 

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thats one of the most stupid ways i have heard mark of beast explained. and i heard many. you just condemned everyone to hell except few people in the jungles. good job. i bet you also use some money to use internet and talk to us here? hypocrite
 
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Which would correspond to September 4th, 2026, at about 6 a.m. ?
I have a schematic of the approximate dates of the last 3.5 years before the year 6000 if you are interested in looking at them and doing further research and calculating the numbers on your own. It is good to have more than one set of eyes dissecting the numbers.
 
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Indeed persecution came from the Greeks, and that was prophesied to happen through the 3rd beast of Daniel. But then persecution came from the 4th beast of Daniel, which were the Romans, for 42 prophetic months in accordance to Revelation, which is 1,260 literal years.
Have your considered 42 months is actually equal to three years and a half years?
 
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Have your considered 42 months is actually equal to three years and a half years?
It is, but prophetic timelines implement a prophetic day to literal year conversion, hence the 70 weeks of Daniel, which were 490 literal years. So 42 prophetic months, which is 3.5 prophetic years, is 1,260 literal years.
 
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It is, but prophetic timelines implement a prophetic day to literal year conversion, hence the 70 weeks of Daniel, which were 490 literal years. So 42 prophetic months, which is 3.5 prophetic years, is 1,260 literal years.
How is it then so-called "prophetic time" does not adhere to the prophecy of the prophet? Is this to say Daniel was a false prophet? I think it is more likely people that came way later are the ones lying rather, and that Daniel told the truth.
 

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I have a schematic of the approximate dates of the last 3.5 years before the year 6000 if you are interested in looking at them and doing further research and calculating the numbers on your own. It is good to have more than one set of eyes dissecting the numbers.
Thanks for the info. what I'm really interested in is how you arrived at that particular date and time. So thanks for that.

I use a different overall interpretation of the scriptures, so it wouldn't really makes sense for me to spend a long time looking over the details for myself.
 

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I have a schematic of the approximate dates of the last 3.5 years before the year 6000 if you are interested in looking at them and doing further research and calculating the numbers on your own. It is good to have more than one set of eyes dissecting the numbers.
Another date setter. I'm so surprised.
 

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All symbols in the book of Revelation are based on the Tanakh. If you know the Tanakh you know everything. Therefore 666 relates to this passage in the Tanakh,

Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold,
1 Kings 10:14

Why gold you might ask? Well, my diagram will explain it, and what the true mark of the beast is.

No, everything does not related to the Tanakh! All you are doing is repeating a teaching that has been going around, which is false. In order to come to a right conclusion, we must pay attention to the context.

Scripture states that the mark will go in/on the right hand or forehead. Unless anyone receives the mark they will not be able to buy or sell. That said, it is pretty hard to wear a piece of gold on your hand or forehead to make purchases.

"The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants what things it behooves to take place in quickness"

The word "anastasis" translated as "revelation" is defined as " an unveiling, uncovering, revealing, a disclosure of truth, instruction, concerning divine things before unknown. Therefore, this coming mark is something that will have previously been unknown.

In John's vision he was trying to describe something that he had nothing to compare to and that because there was nothing like the technology that we have today. However, the technology for mark has been here and has been evolving. Sine 2015, employees of a certain company in Sweden have been receiving RFID chips under the skin of their hands which allows them entrance into the building, access to equipment and to be able to purchase food at the local café. This technology is also here in the US where one company is offering the RFID chip in order to make purchases in the break room.

The system which the mark will use has been in place for some time. It is the electronic crediting and debiting system that allows people to pay by the swiping of their debit or credit cards and/or via cell phone bank apps. This technology will continue to evolve to something more applicable in preparation for that coming antichrist. Very soon, we will begin to see people making purchases by the scanning of their hands, replacing the swiping of cards.

The generation that we live in is the only one where the mark could be fulfilled and that because of the system of electronic crediting and debiting (buying and selling). Paper money, checks and all other forms of buying and selling will become obsolete when that antichrist/beast proclaims himself to be God and the mark in the right hand or forehead will be the only valid method for making purchases.
 
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If the prophets of old just sat back and said nothing they would not have been killed. It is because they spoke the truth against the evil of their generation that they were hated by their peers and put to death by them. So in likewise it is with me, I speak to you people the truth regarding the money of today, and even regarding the Torah in general, and you people despise me and ridicule me, just like the prophets of old were despised and ridiculed. You people are so lost that you don't even realize how lost you are, which is reflected in how you treat those who are actually telling you the truth, because you yourselves are not in the truth, so you despise those that are.
Its not money that is the enemy, its the people using it.
 
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