Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

[Ahwatukee]

I really don't see how a microchip is the same as a mark, nor how you could make so many people accept a microchip willingly.

Hello A-Fool-For-God,

The same that you get everyone to receive a debit or credit card, convenience. I have studied end-time events for 45 years and have watched the evolution of the technology for the mark ever since the first ATM's. Then came the universal product code (UPC), followed by the Point of Sale (POS) system. Now we have people being implanted with chips to make purchases. If you'd like further proof, watch the following video of someone who lived for a month by purchasing his needs with the scan of his hand.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Plus the chips, like they are easy to break and your body will actually reject them and push them out. I would think the mark is simply a tattoo, tattoos are referred to as marks in the Bible (ie: Leviticus 19:28), and then looking around at society today it probably wouldn't be much of a stretch to make people tattoo themselves willingly, especially in this generation and the generations to soon grow up.

As I said, this electronic crediting and debiting will continue to evolve, where the RFID chips will be replaced by something more applicable, either on or in the skin of the hand or forehead. Also remember, not only will this mark be the only means of buying and selling, but it will be a method of worship for the Antichrist.

Regarding tattoos and body piercing, I personally believe that these are being done for the purpose of making the transition of receiving the mark as a non-issue.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Is it? Show me who teaches that paper money and fiat currency is the mark of the beast, if indeed it is so well known. I already explained that, scroll up.

I never said that paper money and flat currency is the mark of the beast. What I did say is that the mark of the beast will be a device that will go on or under the skin of the hand or forehead, which will allow people to make electronic purchases by the scan of their hands or forehead. The mark will replace debit and credit cards, cell phone bank apps and whatever else is being used to perform electronic crediting and debiting. Watch the following of one who had his hand implanted with the RFID chip and lived for a month by purchasing his needs with the scan of his hand.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

 

[Ahwatukee]

But that's not what the prophecy says. That means either Daniel has to be lying outright and is a false prophet OR that someone probably closer to our time in history is merely lying to try to force Daniel's prophecies to confirm their own. My guess by the anti-Catholic undertones is it is probably the Protestants that made this up.

Seventy 'sevens" (seventy weeks of years) have been decreed upon your people and their holy city. (Dan.9:24)

Sixty nine of those seventy 'sevens' were completed when the Messiah was cut off (Christ crucified).

God paused the last seven years of that prophecy to be fulfilled in conjunction with the time of His wrath and the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. Once the church has been completed, the Lord will call us up to meet Him in the air. At that time, God will pick up right where He left off with Israel in fulfillment of that last seven years.

 

[gaviriachristian]

You don't actually have 7 years worth of food stored up then?

In your community will you all be living in the same building? Or will people continue to live in their houses?

I do not, but I have plenty. I have extra rooms and beds in my house to lodge people that have no where to stay, and it will also be in the homes of others that form part of the network of home assemblies here in Medellin.

 

[gaviriachristian]

I never said that paper money and flat currency is the mark of the beast. What I did say is that the mark of the beast will be a device that will go on or under the skin of the hand or forehead, which will allow people to make electronic purchases by the scan of their hands or forehead. The mark will replace debit and credit cards, cell phone bank apps and whatever else is being used to perform electronic crediting and debiting. Watch the following of one who had his hand implanted with the RFID chip and lived for a month by purchasing his needs with the scan of his hand.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

No.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Sounds fantastical.

Fantastical? It's already happening! So there is no fantasy about it. Watch that link I provided. The mark is going to run on the electronic crediting and debiting system what is already in place. The mark will just evolve and replace the current options for electronic crediting and debiting.

Think of it this way, it would be the same as if cash and checks were made obsolete so that purchases could only be made by having a debit or credit card. Then everybody would have to have one, right? So, why is it so hard to go to the next level, especially when we have people already being implanted with devices. Open your understand!

 

[Ahwatukee]

No.

Yeah, usually when somebody replies with "No" and no other explanation, it shows a lack of understanding.

 

[Ahwatukee]

No.

Just keep watching and you will soon begin to see people paying for things by the scan of their hands. It's already being done in Sweden and here sister countries, as well as here in the US.

 

[gaviriachristian]

Fantastical? It's already happening, so there is no fantasy about it. Watch that link I provided. The mark is going to run on the electronic crediting and debiting system what is already in place. The mark will just evolve and replace the current options for electronic crediting and debiting.

Think of it this way, it would be the same as if cash and checks were made obsolete so that purchases could only be made by having a debit or credit card. Then everybody would have to have one, right? So, why is it so hard to go to the next level, especially when we have people already being implanted with devices. Open your understand!

No. You open your understanding that paper money and fiat currency is the mark of the beast, which the entire world has already taken, including yourself, through ignorance.

 

[Dan_473]

I do not, but I have plenty. I have extra rooms and beds in my house to lodge people that have no where to stay, and it will also be in the homes of others that form part of the network of home assemblies here in Medellin.

If you don't have 7 years worth of food, what is your plan for when the food you have runs out?

The homes of others that are part of the network, are they homes that the people own? Will they continue to pay for things like utilities?

Or are they rentals? Will they continue to pay rent?

 

[Ahwatukee]

No. You open your understanding that paper money and fiat currency is the mark of the beast, which the entire world has already taken, including yourself, through ignorance.

So, you're willing rather to adopt and support the false teaching of paper money and flat currency as the mark, opposed to the technology of making electronic purchases with a device under the skin, which is supported by scripture? Amazing!

I just hope that you won't be standing in line to have your device implanted (whatever it may be) because you favor your interpretation.

There are people who have allegorized the scriptures regarding the mark to mean observing the Sabbath on Sunday. Because of this, there will be many of them standing in line to get their real mark, because of their false interpretation and lack of understanding.

 

[A-Fool-For-God]

Well what I mean is I don't really see it being practical nor convenient to be microchipped for the reasons I detailed (ie: invasive procedure, people unwilling to do it, the chip being easily broken or the body actually ejecting it from the skin, etc.), thus I do not think the microchip theory holds much water.

I would think that a tattoo would make more sense because all ready we know that the Bible calls tattoos marks (as in the prohibition against printing marks on your skin, in other words the forbidding of tattoos) and also just looking around at my peers today it's much easier to name the people I know that don't have tattoos than the ones that do. If they'll all ready get tattoos now, just imagine how easy it will have to be for the next generations to be convinced to get one.

 

[gaviriachristian]

If you don't have 7 years worth of food, what is your plan for when the food you have runs out?

The homes of others that are part of the network, are they homes that the people own? Will they continue to pay for things like utilities?

Or are they rentals? Will they continue to pay rent?

It varies. God will always provide for the needs of his people. Do you want that list of the dates or not?

 

[Ahwatukee]

Well what I mean is I don't really see it being practical nor convenient to be microchipped for the reasons I detailed (ie: invasive procedure, people unwilling to do it, the chip being easily broken or the body actually ejecting it from the skin, etc.), thus I do not think the microchip theory holds much water.

I would think that a tattoo would make more sense because all ready we know that the Bible calls tattoos marks (as in the prohibition against printing marks on your skin, in other words the forbidding of tattoos) and also just looking around at my peers today it's much easier to name the people I know that don't have tattoos than the ones that do. If they'll all ready get tattoos now, just imagine how easy it will have to be for the next generations to be convinced to get one.

Whatever the mark eventually becomes, it will be in the right hand or forehead and will allow people to electronically credit or debit their bank accounts. So, get off the RFID chip. I was using that as the current technology, which will continue to evolve. The mark could just as easily end up being in the form of a miniature tattoo circuit board. What will remain consistent is that it will go in the hand or the forehead. Therefore, anything that is put on or under the skin for the purposed of electronic crediting and debiting will become the mark.

 

[gaviriachristian]

So, you're willing rather to adopt and support the false teaching of paper money and flat currency as the mark, opposed to the technology of making electronic purchases with a device under the skin, which is supported by scripture? Amazing!

I just hope that you won't be standing in line to have your device implanted (whatever it may be) because you favor your interpretation.

There are people who have allegorized the scriptures regarding the mark to mean observing the Sabbath on Sunday. Because of this, there will be many of them standing in line to get their real mark, because of their false interpretation and lack of understanding.

No, I am willing to adopt the truth that paper money and fiat currency is the mark of the beast because it breaks the command of the Torah of "you shall have righteous weights and quantities", which paper money and fiat currency is not, because it is devalued, and it is therefore a sin everyone on earth is caused to commit through money itself, by the mere possession of it, for true money is gold and silver, which it has been for thousands of years as money, whose value is based on weight, not a perceived imaginary value as it is with paper money. I base my understanding on the Torah, whereas you base your understanding on your own imagination, which is why you think the entire population of billions of people on the earth will readily implant chips on their foreheads, if barely the population of the United States can adopt Apple Pay. What you believe is just absurd and illogical and fantastical, whereas I believe the prophecy came into fulfillment through money itself, the form of money that exists today, which is a new phenomenon of the last 100 years that has become global, and the entire earth has already adopted it, thus fulfilling the prophecy "issued to everyone great and small and rich and poor" by which it is nearly impossible to buy or sell without, paper money and fiat currency. So you see, my explanation is based on the Torah and the truth and what is logical and intelligent, whereas your explanation is mere fantasy and flat out dumb. But to each their own, I offer my pearls freely, let him who understands take them gladly.

 

[A-Fool-For-God]

Whatever the mark eventually becomes, it will be in the right hand or forehead and will allow people to electronically credit or debit their bank accounts. So, get off the RFID chip. I was using that as the current technology, which will continue to evolve. The mark could just as easily end up being in the form of a miniature tattoo circuit board. What will remain consistent is that it will go in the hand or the forehead. Therefore, anything that is put on or under the skin for the purposed of electronic crediting and debiting will become the mark.

I am curious; but where do you get the idea that it must be electronic? Do you suppose technology will only stay where it is at or advance? What if much of technology were to in fact be lost either before the Apocalypse or during the cataclysmic events which precede Satan being thrown out of heaven and the Beasts rising and the mark being issues?

 

[Ahwatukee]

No, I am willing to adopt the truth that paper money and fiat currency is the mark of the beast because it breaks the command of the Torah of "you shall have righteous weights and quantities", which paper money and fiat currency is not, because it is devalued, and it is therefore a sin everyone on earth is caused to commit through money itself, by the mere possession of it, for true money is gold and silver, which it has been for thousands of years as money, whose value is based on weight, not a perceived imaginary value as it is with paper money. I base my understanding on the Torah, whereas you base your understanding on your own imagination, which is why you think the entire population of billions of people on the earth will readily implant chips on their foreheads, if barely the population of the United States can adopt Apple Pay. What you believe is just absurd and illogical and fantastical, whereas I believe the prophecy came into fulfillment through money itself, the form of money that exists today, which is a new phenomenon of the last 100 years that has become global, and the entire earth has already adopted it, thus fulfilling the prophecy "issued to everyone great and small and rich and poor" by which it is nearly impossible to buy or sell without, paper money and fiat currency. So you see, my explanation is based on the Torah and the truth and what is logical and intelligent, whereas your explanation is mere fantasy and flat out dumb. But to each their own, I offer my pearls freely, let him who understands take them gladly.

So, your going to ignore the current technology of a literal device being implanted on or under the skin of the hand which is and will be used for electronic crediting and debiting?

How can what I am believing be absurd when it fits perfectly with the prophecy?

Prophecy:
"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark"

On-going Fulfillment:
People are currently being implanted with chips which enables them to make purchases electronically.

In your interpretation, you are leaving out the placement of the mark regarding the right hand forehead. Neither paper money, nor flat currency fit the prophecy. Your also ignoring the fact that what is literally said about the mark is already happening. You're also ignoring the fact that the world has been continuing to phase out cash and checks for electronic money. In Sweden for the most part, all financial transactions are done electronically. Cash and checks are on their way out.

thus fulfilling the prophecy "issued to everyone great and small and rich and poor" by which it is nearly impossible to buy or sell without, paper money and fiat currency.

Man, you'd better open your eyes! It is by electronic buying and selling that the prophecy will be fulfilled, which is already what the majority of the world is already doing. Paper money and currency is being phased out.

 

[tourist]

All symbols in the book of Revelation are based on the Tanakh. If you know the Tanakh you know everything. Therefore 666 relates to this passage in the Tanakh,

It is only your opinion on what 666 represents and not really an established fact. About once a month someone creates a thread on their unique insights on what the mark of the beast is. How did you come up with the conclusion that all symbols in the book of Revelation are based on the Tanakh?

 

[tourist]

I figured it out on my own, by the favor of God, because I was once blind to this evil that exists through paper money. And there are not many people preaching against this, in fact no one is, that I've seen. The only people I've seen speak out against this form of money are a group of Muslims I found on YouTube. Paper money and fiat currency is the true mark of the beast.

Most peeps now use debit or credit cards for their everyday financial transactions and not paper money. It is best not to base your understanding of scripture on YouTube videos.

 

[gaviriachristian]

So, your going to ignore the current technology of a literal device being implanted on or under the skin of the hand which is and will be used for electronic crediting and debiting?

How can what I am believing be absurd when it fits perfectly with the prophecy?

Prophecy:
"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark"

On-going Fulfillment:
People are currently being implanted with chips which enables them to make purchases electronically.

In your interpretation, you are leaving out the placement of the mark regarding the right hand forehead. Neither paper money, nor flat currency fit the prophecy. Your also ignoring the fact that what is literally said about the mark is already happening. You're also ignoring the fact that the world has been continuing to phase out cash and checks for electronic money. In Sweden for the most part, all financial transactions are done electronically. Cash and checks are on their way out.



Man, you'd better open your eyes! It is by electronic buying and selling that the prophecy will be fulfilled, which is already what the majority of the world is already doing. Paper money and currency is being phased out.

Because you have taken something symbolic to be literal, like the catholics who took the saying of the Messiah regarding eating his flesh and drinking his blood literal. The book of Revelation is a book of symbols, with interpretations, and just as the people of God will receive the name of God symbolically on their foreheads, which symbolizes belonging to God, so in likewise it is with the mark of the beast and where the mark is symbolically. The mark of the beast symbolizes paper money and fiat currency. Receiving the mark on the forehead symbolizes debt, for a borrower is a slave to his lender, and so whoever buys or sells with credit cards, mortgages, auto loans, which are all based on paper money, have the mark on the forehead symbolically, whereas the right hand is a symbol for authority, meaning whoever merely possesses paper money now has authority to buy and sell, which symbolically means having the mark on the right hand. All of this is understood by the wise, who know the Torah and understand prophecy. But for the regular Joe Schmoe who knows nothing regarding the Torah, he takes these visions literally and goes off on illogical fantasies regarding microchips and 666 tattoos, while ignoring the evil that already exists through the form of money we have today, all to his own demise, through ignorance.