Are demons and fallen angels the same thing? Where'd they come from?

LOL With all due respect .No they look like the NBA which could be saints.

Someone that is 5 foot 8 inches makes me feel like a grasshopper. Even the giants look like grasshoppers to our God.

David was empowered by the Holy Spirit to kill one.

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and

Sons of God. . Those led by the Spirit of God. Son of the father of lies led by his lies. Daughters of men, unbelieving mankind.

Lying spirits do not have DNA the verse is speaking of men and daughters of men .They do have it

Lesson. Don't be unevenly yoked protect the seed of Christ. .Don't spill it on the ground as Onan. The promise came as the Son of man Jesus. The next time destroy the whole world.

Were the children of Israel that went into the land; Joshua, Caleb and all those 12 men who were the heads of the children of Israel, were they sons of God?

Yes as many as "led by the Holy Spirit of Christ" . Those seen (dna) be fruitful and multiply and those not seen (no dna) no commandment to multiply not made in the image of God

So the sons of God (Joshua and Caleb) brought back an evil report of the land of the giants (the sons of God). They said the sons of God (giants) were eating up the inhabitants of the land. And Joshua and Caleb (sons of God) looked like grasshoppers compared to the giants (sons of God).

Is this your understanding of the verses?

Sorry I wasn’t clear. I’m saying that they all saw GIANTS that were devouring the inhabitants of the land. Garee is saying that the giants saw giants.

Giants can’t be sons of God if Joshua and Caleb are sons of God. The giants in the land were wicked.

Christ was in the church in the wilderness. They were saved by grace through faith just like us.

Because you are confusing two groups of evil spirits. Those chained in Tartarus are the evil angels which sinned before the Flood, and corrupted humanity. They remain confined to this day.

Demons are evil spirits which are free to roam on this earth and take possession of living creatures (humans and animals). Also the Bible calls the false gods represented by idols as "devils" (demons). There are also other evil spirits which are NOT demons, but are simply evil spirit beings influencing world affairs and controlling nations and humans.

As to connecting the Nephilim with demons, that is mostly fantasy. The Nephilim were the offspring of evil spirits and humans, and seen as giants and men of renown (the ancients gods and heroes of the various mythologies).

Good day, Hevosmies,

Your friend is correct in that, fallen angels are indeed demons. They are also referred to as unclean spirits.

Regarding Jude 1:6 and 2 Peter 2:4, I believe that those angels referred to are those who took wives and had offspring. It is these that God put into chains of darkness until the day of judgment. Otherwise, how could Satan and his angels be cast out of heaven and restricted to the earth as described in Rev.12:7-9 which takes place in the future at the sounding of the 7th trumpet?

Ethiopic Enoch also describes their binding:

"To Michael like wise the Lord said: Go and announce his crime to Samyaza, and to the others (angels) who are with him, who have been associated with women, that they might be polluted with all their impurity. And when all their sons (Nephilim) shall be slain, when they shall see the destruction of their beloved, bind them for seventy generations underneath the earth (Tartarus), even to the day of judgment, the effect of which will last forever, be completed."

You're dealing with two groups of fallen angels here, 200 of which took wives from the progeny of men and had offspring and the other fallen angels who were not involved in that rebellious act. Those angels who took wives and had children is what Jude and Peter are referring to. The rest of Satan's angels have access to both heaven and earth.

You can find a study on demons Here that you will find helpful...

It seems Paul agrees.
1Cor 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

A little different. The land of the giants tall men are not considered (the sons of God) .And not everyone was taller than a Jew. They simply were challenged to get over the giant fear. Like David did by faith or Joshua .. There were sons of God that followed the Spirit of Christ and violated the law in respect to preserve the seed of Christ . like with Onan.... seeing no value in the things of faith the unseen.

The seed was reserved through the line of Noah .

Size does not matter. The bigger they are the faster I run..lol