Day of the Lord - The Sacrifice

In the context of the day of the LORD the sacrifice is the slaughter of the ungodly. And since God sends an angel to invite the birds of prey, here is what you quoted: "And it shall come to pass in the day of the LORD'S sacrifice, that I will punish the princes..." The sacrifice becomes the punishment in this context.

Do you believe that God killing people in his wrath would be considered a sacrifice to himself?

There are different types of sacrifices...

Do you believe that "the smoke of their torment" in Revelation 14:11 will glorify God forever?

I do see your point but I don’t agree. But let’s say that you are right, what happens to Jerusalem at that time?

Do you know of any other examples in the Bible where God kills people in his wrath and calls it a sacrifice?

You see --- God "arranged it" so that every soul WILL Glorify God forever in one of two ways -- by their own [free] will now (and forever) - or - by "the smoke of their torment" (for ever and ever).

I really don’t know. If he does, does that mean it was a sacrifice?

Every place in scripture referring to God's 'Day of Wrath' is talking about the same event.

I agree but I’m looking for a second witness to God killing people being considered a sacrifice to God.

Zep 2:15 (KJV) This is the rejoicing city that dwelt carelessly, that said in her heart, I am, and there is none beside me: how is she become a desolation, a place for beasts to lie down in! every one that passeth by her shall hiss, and wag his hand.

I don’t know if Nehemiah6 is coming back or not but the verse above is what happens to Jerusalem at the time of the day of Lord.

How does this align with Revelation 19?

Just looking K16:

(Isa 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.)

2077 zebach zeh'-bakh

from H2076;

properly, a slaughter, i.e. the flesh of an animal; by implication, a sacrifice (the victim or the act).

So the word can be translated as slaughter determined by context.

(Jer 46:10 For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates)

Thanks AZ. Listen I'm not trying to be argumentative or prove I'm right or whatever, but the last part of the verse separates the sacrifice from the slaughter - for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

Off the top of my head and without looking into it, it sounds like "a sacrifice in Bozrah" is possibly pointing to Christ... do you know if Bozrah in any way points to Jerusalem, golgotha etc.?

In a word, no. It's dealing with Idumea back then. Some think it could be a future prophecy at the end of the world scenario which I don't agree with.

I have to go to bed. See you next time!

It looks like the consensus is that the day of the Lord is at the end (not AD 70) and the sacrifice is not the Lamb of God and the guests are not wedding guests but rather the birds that eat the flesh.

I disagree, but all points made were good points. Now I would like to expand the study outside of Zephaniah.

Oba 1:15 For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
Oba 1:16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.
Oba 1:17 But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
Oba 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.

I'm not going to go verse by verse, but that passage says that AT THE TIME of the day of the Lord, Israel will get rewarded (punished) by returning what they've done right back on their own heads.

AT THE SAME TIME, the heathens will drink upon God's holy mountain... CONTINUALLY, FOREVER and they will become GOD'S PEOPLE.

This is the day of the Lord, how is this happening at the end of time when the gentiles DID THAT when Christ came the first time?

From my studies; "the day of the lord" is every national event when Yah exercises fierce judgment against His enemies and (re)established His sovereign rule, which leads to peace/rest.

So the judgment against Jerusalem in the BCs was the day of the lord.

...and the judgment against Jerusalem in 70AD was the day of the lord.

...and the prophetic judgment against Esau/Edom (in Obadiah) was/will be the day of the lord before and again.

...and the final judgment against the armies of the world will be the day of the lord.

It is His day, when He puts down all rebellion, and whoever is on His side is rewarded while those who are against him are defeated.

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The history of mankind is cyclical until all is fulfilled.

Ecclesiastes 1:9
"What has been is what will be; what has been done is what will be done. There is nothing new under the sun."

I've ran across other people that hold that view. I don't hold that view, and if you read Malachi 4 from the king James bible, read all of it, but pay close attention to verse 4. This is one of many reasons I don't hold that view.

Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Malachi 4:4 is bringing attention to the covenant God made with Israel and without saying a word about the consequences of not keeping that covenant (Deu 28:15), he moves on to verse 5 and talks about "the great and dreadful day of the Lord".

Deu 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

From Malachi chapter 4 we can see that "the day of the Lord" is a specific time, a time that wont happen until after Elijah (John the Baptist) comes preaching repentance to Israel.

But the MOST INTERESTING thing in chapter 4 to me is that "the Sun of righteousness" comes with healing in his wings to deliver the righteous of Israel BEFORE the great and dreadful day comes.

So to me, the DAY of the Lord is when the SUN of righteousness rises.

In my studies, I have determined that every place in scripture where there is a "day of the lord" phrase (at least all of those listed in the chart on the 'Second Coming' page in the 'Study' section of my website) - it is referring to the very same "day of the lord" event that is the Second Coming of Christ.