Not By Works

Once again,

No one who practices sin has seen God or known God. Whoever has been born of God can not practice sin....

I am sure you have heard of the apostle john, those are his words. If you will not hear. Me, at least hear him.

You are talking by yourself.
Same scenario: that person continue fighting because his sins can be overlooked just because of Jesus' blood ... like sacrifices in Israel. Nobody can be saved practicing sin, not repenting and not fighting for not repeating again.

Luk 13:23 (ESV) And someone said to him, "Lord, will those who are saved be few?" And he said to them,
24 "Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

Maybe they just prefer the spirits that the bartender is serving.

I left facebook because most of my family openly mocked God and push for the LGBT agenda...😧

I've tried to witness but you can't help someone who does not want help and gets furious at your offers.


I get called a pharisee by the world, and I get called blind by the self righteous....



Jesus is the narrow path,almost every religion adds works like yours....

In John chapter 3 we see very clearly that Jesus states, anyone who does not believe in Him is condemned. Jesus doesn’t say any Gentile, he says anyone.

So true brother

We are pharisees to the world. Because we act and preach righteousness

But sinners to the workers. Because they think we hate the above..

True grace is always in the middle.

Yes, at least twice Jesus said, "I am the door" Jn10:7,9


[v.9b - "If anyone enters in by [means of] Me, he will be saved..."]

Then works matter.

Ok I will try one more time and use examples to try and help.



Example 1 :
A drunk and spiteful man hears the gospel (good news of the free gift) and sees "now I can drink and fight all I want im safe"
and sins as much as possible and takes joy in his new excuse

Example 2 :
A drunk and spiteful man hears the gospel (good news of the free gift) and sees "I am a sinner... how I live my life is awful.... God please help me I am sorry and wish to conform to your will"
and quits drinking 100% and holds no grudges what so ever

Example 3:
A drunk spiteful man hears the gospel (good news of the free gift) and sees "I am a sinner... how I live my life is awful.... God please help me"

and still drinks from time to time... and when he fails (where as before being made new drinking was not a failure to him) it convicts him and he wishes to improve.... has a temper but sees it as wrong and refrains from violence and tries to pray for patience and is quick to say sorry


example two and three no longer PRACTICE sin and have some fruit


but one... does not seem to be born again (made new)

and walks on willful sin with no chastening which is no better or worse than a self righteous person who places salvation on their own shoulders (also with no chastening for their sins which they are sometimes blind to)


example two is no more saved than example three... just more fruitful

praise God

also I wouldn't be surprised if number three faced many hardships number two was protected from in his slower walk

but it was never the walk that saved those who are saved

it is always God who saves and keeps saved


we are "kept by the power of God"

FALSE..........try again pal.....see if you can accurately explain the following verse

But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness

I do wonder if often, though we stand on faith, how well do we know our brothers and sisters in Christ.
I know people who believe in self righteousness, and do not count faith for salvation in the cross.

Maybe it is the way we use language, and how the same words speak slightly differently to us, so we
are saying the same thing but in different ways. If one is truly gnostic, this is not true, but there are
many shades of conviction an emphasis, and people shift as Gods word works through them.

When Jesus comes along side us and calls us His faithful servant, what then? Do we argue that our
theology is wrong here or there?

We often suffer because we do not see the heart and how everything springs from this fountain.
If what dwells within us is darkness, then everything is lost. And some are very dark and confused
within, not knowing one consistent feeling or response they have, only knowing what they should
be feeling. A friend of mine was counselling such a woman who lived by what she ought to do, and
not what she knew she desired to do. If you cannot tell the difference, I am sorry to say, you do not
know yourself. If we cannot find ourselves, how can God save us, or we even know what is right or
wrong. But there is always hope, and no one is truly lost if they let the light of Christ in. God bless
you.

I hear you, I do.

Congrats..this type of post gets people banned......

Have you considered why the word "you shall love" (Gal5:14) is in the "future INDICATIVE active" here (rather than in the "IMPERATIVE [/command]")? - https://biblehub.com/text/galatians/5-14.htm



...and why there is no "must" word in John 13:34, when there easily could have been - https://biblehub.com/text/john/13-34.htm


(yes, later in the epistles, those having the Spirit [saved persons/"the Church which is His body"] are given such, but also have been given the Resources to carry it out/bear fruit in such a capacity. [Rom7:4, 8:4, 8:11, Phil1:11, Heb13:20-21 ["by means of Jesus Christ," etc])

Sigh 😔

Geesscch....if you don't think you must do righteous things (only a scriptural neophyte would call it works) you are in a world of hurt.
Suggest you get off your new age religion stump and listen to what G-d is telling you thru His word....about works...including the scripture where we not saved by works alone.....judgement of our works, et al.

Interestingly some hold even if you lose ones faith, one is not condemned, even though belief has gone.
This should be a warning not to fear a loss of faith, but to know our relationship with Christ is true and
living, and in Him we can never fall. Paul puts it like this

38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers,
39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Rom 8

We are secure. So secure in brotherly love Peter says

10 For if you do these things, you will never fall,
2 Peter 1

What great promises, Halleluyah to Jesus.

HAHAHAH he obviously missed my point........that BEING if we CANNOT use them as an example of how we can respond to people what are false then who can we use....I.E. JESUS, PAUL, John, Elijah all used sarcasm, heat and very pointed names and designations.....he also said I was a liar and not saved...I reported it

Right brother?

What eli says: "What I say is that without works nobody can be saved"


What God inspired:
Romans 4:6

“Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,”

Not sure what you mean here?

A little confusing?