Not By Works
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Well, then people is not explaining very well what they mean ... or my English is the worse one in the whole world and I am the only one here that doesn't know why so many threads talking about something related with salvation or what is this about. 
Don't worry or panic.
Sorry if I have not understood who you are or what you are trying to convey.
What is your nationality?
Let's take it from there.
Anything you don't understand then please feel free to ask.
My name is Bill
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Bill, that was sarcasm (on my last post). Hope yours too. Sorry about it.
My English can be the worse one in the whole world, but evidently when in a forum some people are posting and keeping some threads about not-loosing-salvation and works-don't-affect your salvation and all that ... even with my worse English I can see something is wrong in here about what is believed about being a real christian.
My English can be the worse one in the whole world, but evidently when in a forum some people are posting and keeping some threads about not-loosing-salvation and works-don't-affect your salvation and all that ... even with my worse English I can see something is wrong in here about what is believed about being a real christian.
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You are not Jesus, Eliah, John the Baptist, Paul, or any of them. They had a lot of WORKS you're saying are not useful.
Where?
Please do not tell me your gonna be another one of those liars who slander people because they can not refute what they say? We have far to many of them in here.
I pray PRAY you are just confused as to what he was saying (we will see how you respond to him when he tells you he never made such a statement)
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What people do
EG, DC, TT all three have their particular ways of expressing things, very different, very
developed. If one follows this over the months, 5 months or there abouts, it is obvious
things at this level do not change much, the kinds of interactions, the positive and negative
observations. So as far as testimonies of the heart, they are probably a true reflection of
where one is and what in Christ ones insight has become.
So the idea of a false teacher does apply, because the stands and the arguments have not
shifted or the respect or otherwise to known people or strangers.
This is both a blessing, if we bring glory and a witness to Christ, or a serious problem if
we stand condemned of the denial of His love and His word.
So when we testify, we are testifying before our Lord, who is gracious and forgiving through
His son and the cross. So let us remember we answer to Him and no other, thank you Jesus.
What love that He would call us His and die to bring us home with Him Amen.
EG, DC, TT all three have their particular ways of expressing things, very different, very
developed. If one follows this over the months, 5 months or there abouts, it is obvious
things at this level do not change much, the kinds of interactions, the positive and negative
observations. So as far as testimonies of the heart, they are probably a true reflection of
where one is and what in Christ ones insight has become.
So the idea of a false teacher does apply, because the stands and the arguments have not
shifted or the respect or otherwise to known people or strangers.
This is both a blessing, if we bring glory and a witness to Christ, or a serious problem if
we stand condemned of the denial of His love and His word.
So when we testify, we are testifying before our Lord, who is gracious and forgiving through
His son and the cross. So let us remember we answer to Him and no other, thank you Jesus.
What love that He would call us His and die to bring us home with Him Amen.
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If your going to make a blanket accusation. You are required to prove that accusation when called upon to do so. Otherwise, your accusation is just that, An accusation, with no backing,,
We call that Hot Air.
Or you can just post people who say the things you have accused them of saying.. Or change your tone, and adnit, You have no proof. So it is just uyour opinion. Not based on fact.
We call that Hot Air.
Or you can just post people who say the things you have accused them of saying.. Or change your tone, and adnit, You have no proof. So it is just uyour opinion. Not based on fact.
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So we have to mix works and grace, and paul was wrong?
Basically we are saved by GRACE PLUS works. Not Grace..through faith.
Sorry thats not what the bible teaches
It teaches those who truly repent, will have true faith, and as a result they will have true living works.. Works are not required. They are a BYPRoDUCT of true living faith, the ONLY faith which saves
Basically we are saved by GRACE PLUS works. Not Grace..through faith.
Sorry thats not what the bible teaches
It teaches those who truly repent, will have true faith, and as a result they will have true living works.. Works are not required. They are a BYPRoDUCT of true living faith, the ONLY faith which saves
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EG, I am not interested on talking about people. I'd been trying to show that salvation and works are very interconected. There is not salvation without works and it is all around the Scriptures. FHS and Noose had being posting a lot of biblical passages that are very clear ... I show some myself before, but it looks like some want to see only one side and not the other.
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Sadly, alot of people post a bunch of scripture. With no meanint, and no thought that the scripture does not say what it think they say, and they leave it at that.
You want to find out what people believe, ask them.. Don;t just assume you know. We get to much of that in here (the calvinist arminian infighting is the worse. if your osas you have to be Calvin, of your nosas you have to be arminian, which is not even close to the truth. But people can not get past that)
You want to find out what people believe, ask them.. Don;t just assume you know. We get to much of that in here (the calvinist arminian infighting is the worse. if your osas you have to be Calvin, of your nosas you have to be arminian, which is not even close to the truth. But people can not get past that)
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No one here is saying there is salvation without works.
ONCE you figure out this truth.
Prayerfully, the conversation will get much clearer and be more reasonable.
if you think people here ARE saying this. You are mistaken, and I would ask that you show who. So we all can see them
ONCE you figure out this truth.
Prayerfully, the conversation will get much clearer and be more reasonable.
if you think people here ARE saying this. You are mistaken, and I would ask that you show who. So we all can see them
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