Is repentance of sin necessary for salvation?

So you never sin?

You never sin in any way?

You never sin in word, deed, or thought?

You are sinlessly perfect in every way?

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Don't you believe what is written in the word of God?
The bible says, you WERE a sinner b4 you came to Christ, but after Christ came into your heart through the word of God, you ARE, present tense, the righteousness of God. And your righteousness is not your own, but Christ in you.
It doesn't have anything to do with me ever having sinned in my life, but who is in me, because as it is written, AS CHRIST IS IN ME, SO AM I IN THIS WORLD.
Are you going to call Christ a sinner?
Then how can you call me or perhaps yourself as sinner?
You CANNOT be both the righteousness of God and a sinner simultaneously.
A sinner is about the same as a son of belial, it is the reciprocal of someone who is just.

SIN'NER, n.

1. One that has voluntarily violated the divine law; a moral agent who has voluntarily disobeyed any divine precept, or neglected any known duty.

2. It is used in contradistinction to saint, to denote an unregenerate person; one who has not received the pardon of his sins.

3. AN offender; a criminal.

As for sinning, God only imputes sin when someone knowingly does wrong or violates their conscience, NOT when they don't know.
If your conscience is clear when you do something, then you are good with God.
But if you do something you think is wrong, EVEN IF IT IS NOT, like eating meat or pork, then God will impute that act as sin.
Why do you think Paul was alive once AND THEN DIED AFTER he received knowledge of the law.
Why do you think children, though they are not born again and do wrong, still go to heaven when they die at an early age.
God does not hold them accountable UNTIL they are grown.

The whole of Gods revelation is about repentance from sin, turning from evil and doing good.
No part of scripture does not mention this, and its aim is to show how and why people need to
do this.

Jonah is referred by Jesus as His sign to the jews, the need to repent, to turn from evil and do good or be
judged. There is no greater example of what repentance is and the meaning of the cross as the atoning sacrifice
that brings eternal forgiveness for our confessed and repented of sins.

20 I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.
Acts 26

I believe repentance is not necessary for salvation but what side of the subject do the scriptures support?

Yes, repentance is required for salvation. Repentance and faith (Acts 20:21)

Repentance and faith is the result of the work of the Holy Spirit drawing as the Word of the Gospel is heard.

yes it is

how do you get saved? believe in Jesus

what is unbelief? sin

you must turn from that sin to be saved.

Repentance means "change of mind". [True]

We need to change our minds that we can work for our salvation to acknowledging that Christ Jesus has already completed all the work required. [For our justification]

We need to confess that he is the Lord and believe that he has risen from the dead for our justification (Romans 10:9)

Thank you for your kind words.

Repentance

Paul is quite simple about repentance
"I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds." Act 26:20

For those who want to know what repent means look into the history of Israel, the old testament
and Hebrew

Four Steps of Repentance Teshuvah:

1 Forsake the sin (Prov. 28:13). "Sincere repentance is demonstrated when the same temptation to sin, under the same conditions, is resolutely resisted" (Talmud Yoma 86b). Note that according to traditional Jewish views, the atonement is of no avail without repentance (Midrash Sifra). [shuv/strepho]

2 Regret the breach in your relationship with God and others (Psalm 51). [nacham/metanoia]

3 Confess the truth and make amends with those we have harmed (Prov. 28:13; 1 John 1:9; James 5:16, Matt. 5:23-4). Note that we must ask for mechilah (forgiveness from others) before receiving selichah (forgiveness from God). [shuv/strepho]

4 Accept your forgiveness and move forward with the LORD through faith (Phil. 3:13-14; 1 John 1:9). Be comforted by the Presence of the LORD in your life: Nachumu: "Comfort ye my people" (Isa. 40:1). [nacham/metanoia].

Finally, it needs to be said that authentic repentance is a lifestyle, not a "one time deal." We never get past it. Although there is certainly spiritual progress as we walk in grace, all genuine progress comes through ongoing teshuvah. We may repent from a certain action at a given point in time, but that does not mean that no longer need to do teshuvah. Teshuvah is perpetual and timeless, since it corresponds to our spiritual rather than our temporal lives (i.e., chayei olam rather than chayei sha'ah). Indeed, a true penitent is called baal teshuvah , a "master of returning," who is always turning away from self and toward God. We never get beyond the call to "repent and believe the gospel" (Mark 1:15). That is why the season of teshuvah is always timely. The message of Elul and the High Holidays is meant to be carried over throughout the rest of the year.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Fall_Holidays/Elul/Teshuvah/teshuvah.html

Many heretical teachers call repentance nothing to do with sin or turning to God and walking

in His ways, but they are simply wrong and founding their whole theology on a miss understanding

of the greek word metanoia

In the case of metanoia μετάνοια Bauer, BAGD says the following:

"repentance, turning about, conversion" as a turning away, (from sin). Also the positive aspects of repentance as turning towards God.

"For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death." 2 Cor. 7:10

It is not just changing your approach in your mind.
Jesus tells it like this

"I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.” Luke 5:22

Who is Jesus calling to come to repentance?
Sinners! Because sinners are the ones who are called!
Paul is clear that repentance involved grief.

"As it is, I rejoice, not because you were grieved, but because you were grieved into repenting. For you felt a godly grief, so that you suffered no loss through us." 2 Cor. 7:9

And who is this repentance towards? Paul is clear that repentance has to do with God!

20 "how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you in public and from house to house,
21 testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ." Acts 20:20-21

Perhaps most believe and have argued that repentance of ones' sins is required for salvation, and at least myself, say otherwise.
I don't know if anyone else believes as I do.
I suppose the issue of repentance revolves around the subject of God's forgiveness for the sinner.
I believe repentance is not necessary for salvation but what side of the subject do the scriptures support?

yeah. I'm thinking you totally didn't get what I said.

Your question asked about repentance toward sin BEFORE regeneration. If we could turn from sin BEFORE becoming born again then Jesus did not have to die.

God cannot and will not save those that THINK THEIR righteousness will save them.

The Greek word for "repent" is "metanoia" (noun) and "matanoeo" (verb) you see as defined in the Strongs #3340, 3341: to think differently or afterwards, reconsider. After thought, change of mind. Repentance basically means a "change of mind" and the context must determine what is involved in this change of mind. Where salvation is in view, repentance actually precedes saving faith in Christ and is not a totally separate act from faith. It is actually the same coin with two sides. Repentance is on one side (what you change your mind about) and faith in Christ is on the positive side, the new direction of this change of mind. *Repentance and faith are two sides of the same experience of receiving Christ (Acts 20:21).

Certain people misunderstand the term "repentance" to mean completely stop sinning. That is not the Biblical definition of repentance. In the Bible, the word "repent" means to "change your mind." The Bible also tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions. Acts 26:20 declares, "I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds." This is the fruit of repentance (Matthew 3:8), not the essence of repentance (change of mind). I have heard certain people say, "if you want to be saved, repent of your sins, turn from your sins." If turning from your sins means to stop sinning, then people can only be saved if they stop sinning. And it is unlikely that anyone would be saved in that case, since we don't know anyone who has ever completely stopped sinning.

If you mean does one have to be sinless before they are saved the answer is no.

If you mean does a person at least have to try to forsake their sin before they are saved I think the answer is yes.

Otherwise, what are they being saved from?

If a person could completely repent of their sin there would be no need of a Saviour.

This is truly a silly thing to argue about.

But you never answered my questions.

Here they are again.


1. So you never sin?

2. You never sin in any way?

3. You never sin in word, deed, or thought?

4. You are sinlessly perfect in every way?


Please answer my questions.
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I have been seeing a lot of threads like this starting up lately. Pollution and distraction just for the sake of polluting and distracting? Humor is one thing, This stuff borders on blasphemy.

But I did answer all your questions.
I said, I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.
I am therefore NOT, I repeat, NOT a sinner.
I WAS a sinner, BEFORE I came to Christ. But now I am righteous and just.
WHEN I do sin, I repent of said sin or sins, that I may be forgiven AGAIN, and cleansed of all unrighteousness by the blood of Jesus. As it is written.
I do this to remove any curse of the law of sin from taking hold of my life or that of my family's.
At that moment, I am then once again, in fellowship with Christ, and can pray in faith.
If you think I was saying that I have no sin, then you thought wrong.
John clearly said,

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

I am according to what is written.