Global warming - climate change

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FollowHisSteps

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climate change evidence

The simple point about climate change is the retreat of the glaciers all over the world.
Across Himilayas the loss of the glaciers will cause massive flooding in Indian, Bangladesh
and then starvation when the rives dry up.

It will be a global catastrophy which is now playing out.
Most of the effected countries are currently hiding from the impacts that will play out
over the next 50 to 100 years

It is not difficult to see time lapse photograph of the loss of ice from all the ice fields
around the world. This is not a joke or made up, it is everywhere.

What is shocking to me is how anyone still thinks this is a social issue.
This is just reality, and we do not know quite what to do.
The impacts and disasters and the number of people dying will dwarf any disasters
we have ever witnessed. Yemen effect a few million people and we are overwhelmed.

Over 100 million people is the scale of impact and whether we can survive the social
strain. Just take the few people marching to Europe and the US to find a new home.
Make that a 1,000 times bigger, and we are getting there.
 
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obedienttogod

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Global warming is on the same level as evolution.

Both are a religion, and people want to believe it. Some, don't want to admit they have been indoctrinated fools. Others don't even know they have been made fools. And some are just people that understand, but still want to control people.

Their hysteria gets worse and worse, even as NONE of the dire consequences we have been lied to about haven't come to pass. But that's ok. They can just move the goalposts AGAIN, and indoctrinate children to radicalize them in their crusade to lower everybodys standard of living through socialism and demonization of the one thing that has lifted BILLIONS into a great lifestyle, FOSSIL FUELS.

The vast majority of those on the left are ignorant, but there is a core that are truly evil.


What is hysterical, not understanding weather patterns have actually and literally changed for the worst. Nowhere in my post did I reference what was happening was due to the specifics of science. But science provides a gage to know when something goes from typical and normal to abnormal over a period of time.

In fact, if you took a pen and paper and each day wrote down how the weather was for that day, in a few years, you could almost predict how the weather is going to be per month. That is called COMMON SENSE, which many DO NOT POSSESS!!

But, after knowing how to predict your weather some what based upon month. When years begin passing, and those weather changes that were easy to call now, are so random it becomes a guessing game getting 1 week in a row correct. It's time to wake up, smell the coffee, because God is TELLING US SOMETHING!!
 

TabinRivCA

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what i meant by that was a lazy person. Someone who didnt put in the time to do research and is repeating the 'scientific' data!

I got that word from the Gypsy King himself, Tyson Fury! Best boxer in the heavyweight division, no doubt!
He is from england, I AM NOT.

Also, yes I am big on calling people names for having a "DIFF OPINION", if that DIFF OPINION is that SECULAR SCIENTISTS know anything better than the BIBLE!
Thats not a Christian stance!
Sure, everybody's diff, I don't call other people names, and IF they aren't saved or don't agree with my views, I still don't call them names
 

Hevosmies

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#86
Sure, everybody's diff, I don't call other people names, and IF they aren't saved or don't agree with my views, I still don't call them names
Thats a bummer. Where is the fun in that?

Maybe its cause i come from THE GUTTER
 
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obedienttogod

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God will cause global warming when he burns the planet in his wrath while sweeping the planet with the besom of destruction!




I want you to put your thinking cap on for a minute, since we've gotten to understand one another better.


When this Earth disintegrates, and the new Earth in waiting for God to be put into physical place happens. Do you believe this coming earth is one of the generations of the heaven(s) and earth when it claims God created the earth and heaven in chapter 2?

I'll use actual Hebrew to broaden my question for your understanding.

To clarify:

It states generations in chapter 2:4


Hebrew
Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

Bereishit (Genesis) 1:1
אבְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ:

English
1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.



Hebrew
Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 2

Bereishit (Genesis) 2:4
דאֵ֣לֶּה תֽוֹלְד֧וֹת הַשָּׁמַ֛יִם וְהָאָ֖רֶץ בְּהִ֣בָּֽרְאָ֑ם בְּי֗וֹם עֲשׂ֛וֹת יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהִ֖ים אֶ֥רֶץ וְשָׁמָֽיִם:

English
4 These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, on the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven.





God is nothing but time. He took the time to see how generations of earth/heavens was like before applying it to His actual work during Creation. As a machinist, you probably can see the ultimate engineer/designer in God!!

This is why I wonder if the New Earth is one of those generations. One reason specifically, it won't have water like this earth has always had.
 
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I want you to put your thinking cap on for a minute, since we've gotten to understand one another better.


When this Earth disintegrates, and the new Earth in waiting for God to be put into physical place happens. Do you believe this coming earth is one of the generations of the heaven(s) and earth when it claims God created the earth and heaven in chapter 2?

I'll use actual Hebrew to broaden my question for your understanding.

To clarify:

It states generations in chapter 2:4


Hebrew
Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

Bereishit (Genesis) 1:1
אבְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ:

English
1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.



Hebrew
Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 2

Bereishit (Genesis) 2:4
דאֵ֣לֶּה תֽוֹלְד֧וֹת הַשָּׁמַ֛יִם וְהָאָ֖רֶץ בְּהִ֣בָּֽרְאָ֑ם בְּי֗וֹם עֲשׂ֛וֹת יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהִ֖ים אֶ֥רֶץ וְשָׁמָֽיִם:

English
4 These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, on the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven.





God is nothing but time. He took the time to see how generations of earth/heavens was like before applying it to His actual work during Creation. As a machinist, you probably can see the ultimate engineer/designer in God!!

This is why I wonder if the New Earth is one of those generations. One reason specifically, it won't have water like this earth has always had.
The word translated generations has a broad application and is translated account, order of birth, etc......I personally do not believe it means over a period of generations....

account (1), birth (1), genealogical registration (12), genealogies (3), generations (21), order of their birth (1)

Having said that....Peter said the world that then was perished being overflowed with water and the earth we have now is reserved u to fire.....God is not bound by time...he sees the beginning from the end and in his mi d it is all already Done....he is just giving time and history the chane to play out if you will....there is a first day and a last day...and time as we know it runs out at the sounding of the 7th trump....<-- time no more it states......

and this earth will flee from the presence of God....Does this mean it flat disappears and GOD starts with a completely new ball of dirt.....it seems to indicate this.....but can I stand dogmatically on this...not really....

and yes...as a machinist I see design in everything.....amazing beyond belief design.....
 
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obedienttogod

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The glaciers are expanding according to reality.


If that were actually a fact, it would be impossible for the recent pieces of icebergs crashing onto land, costing literally billions of dollars in damage and not to mention human lives.


Do you actually understand, that according to the PEW RESEARCH POLL (in my opinion, the best factual and unbiased poll that exists), claims that FIFTY-ONE PERCENT (51%) of scientists believe in our SAME GOD as their own God?

They attend church, read and believe scripture. They see God in their research. They are just math geeks who are trying to make a difference in ALL of our LIVES.

These are the SCIENTISTS who I pay attention to. They say it in 2 views, Biblically and Research.
 
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UnderGrace

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Yes exactly. I prefer to not be indoctrinated, we would all be better off if we stopped listening to liars and fakes, those promoting hysteria like the politicians and environmentalist.

The science has yet to prove that the amount of CO2 produced by humans, animals plant life are enough to cause a catastrophic end to human life, and it is the dominant factor. Even the United Nations Scientists UPCC have admitted it is not possible to predict future climate states.

Climate is always changing.
 
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obedienttogod

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The word translated generations has a broad application and is translated account, order of birth, etc......I personally do not believe it means over a period of generations....

account (1), birth (1), genealogical registration (12), genealogies (3), generations (21), order of their birth (1)

Having said that....Peter said the world that then was perished being overflowed with water and the earth we have now is reserved u to fire.....God is not bound by time...he sees the beginning from the end and in his mi d it is all already Done....he is just giving time and history the chane to play out if you will....there is a first day and a last day...and time as we know it runs out at the sounding of the 7th trump....<-- time no more it states......

and this earth will flee from the presence of God....Does this mean it flat disappears and GOD starts with a completely new ball of dirt.....it seems to indicate this.....but can I stand dogmatically on this...not really....

and yes...as a machinist I see design in everything.....amazing beyond belief design.....



I have been beginning to look at words in the Hebrew differently that show possessiveness. Example: the KJV translated the Hebrew into the word Mercy. We have built lives based upon this single measure of Mercy. But the actual Hebrew word for Mercy (של רחמים) means Mercy'swssssssssssss, never ending Mercy like we call Grace.

The Hebrew Language is a puzzle. But when you find what the puzzle means, you are never disappointed knowing you are a Believer!!
 
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UnderGrace

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If that were actually a fact, it would be impossible for the recent pieces of icebergs crashing onto land, costing literally billions of dollars in damage and not to mention human lives.


Do you actually understand, that according to the PEW RESEARCH POLL (in my opinion, the best factual and unbiased poll that exists), claims that FIFTY-ONE PERCENT (51%) of scientists believe in our SAME GOD as their own God?

They attend church, read and believe scripture. They see God in their research. They are just math geeks who are trying to make a difference in ALL of our LIVES.

These are the SCIENTISTS who I pay attention to. They say it in 2 views, Biblically and Research.
You do understand that glaciers are frozen moving ice and big chunks fall off.

If you go to Alaska you can watch it in real time.....it is very cool.:)

btw..... it is a fact do some research.
 

Didymous

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There is a warming trend, but it's so miniscule that we probably don't need to worry about it, because it'll probably all be over before it becomes an issue.
 
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I have been beginning to look at words in the Hebrew differently that show possessiveness. Example: the KJV translated the Hebrew into the word Mercy. We have built lives based upon this single measure of Mercy. But the actual Hebrew word for Mercy (של רחמים) means Mercy'swssssssssssss, never ending Mercy like we call Grace.

The Hebrew Language is a puzzle. But when you find what the puzzle means, you are never disappointed knowing you are a Believer!!
Amen....like the Psalms...-->the mercy if the Lord ENDURES FOREVER and like Ecclesiastes....whatsoever God does, it lasts FOREVER...nothing added nor taken away from it and he does this so men may fear him...

He saves for ETERNITY AND EXACTLY why it is called ETERNAL/EVERLASTING LIFE....

Any gift, any call from God is irrevocable....and exactly why the bible's hope is a confident expecation of something GUARANTEED....

I study every word from any given text and have learned that GOD CAN COVER NUMEROUS TRUTHS with just ONE WORD THAT IS INSPIRED!
 
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obedienttogod

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You do understand that glaciers are frozen moving ice and big chunks fall off.

If you go to Alaska you can watch it in real time.....it is very cool.:)

btw..... it is a fact do some research.


Vision only reveals what is taking place, Research is how you understand there are several reasons for icebergs breaking off. But when the Earth on it's axis rotates by gravity, inertia, and electromagnetic's, becomes a vibration when the Earths Crust Plates come in contact and begin to slide up on one another. This disturbance in icebergs is expected and viewed as natural occurrence by God's Design. But when the Plates are apart and not in contact, and everything is in a balance of harmony, icebergs break off because the overall world temperature has risen steadily for several years now. Which does mean, it is hotter than it should be.
 
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UnderGrace

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obedienttogod

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Ummmmm, are you aware that part of the process of freezing layer after layer after layer requires the surface to be warm and cool? This means heat is required. So heat is not an issue, until too much heats creates unnatural stress fractures, designed for rotation and gravity pull from the moon rising and lowering tides stress. So, bergs grow 1 year, and lose 3 years on average.

And, if you research, you will learn Global Freezing has been a known fact for years, as the result of Global Warming. Some of the worst blizzards recorded attest to this, and that is just alone in the history of the United States.
 
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Ummmmm, are you aware that part of the process of freezing layer after layer after layer requires the surface to be warm and cool? This means heat is required. So heat is not an issue, until too much heats creates unnatural stress fractures, designed for rotation and gravity pull from the moon rising and lowering tides stress. So, bergs grow 1 year, and lose 3 years on average.

And, if you research, you will learn Global Freezing has been a known fact for years, as the result of Global Warming. Some of the worst blizzards recorded attest to this, and that is just alone in the history of the United States.
Just a thought or two.....thus year in Missouri I have had more snow than I can remember the last say 30 or so years....kind if like when I was kid....and for sure in Revelation it states that God should destroy those that are actively destroying the earth....a few points...

It stands to reason that if we are destroying Ozone that...

a. In summer more solar radiation would heat the planet

b. In winter more heat would escape leading to colder winters....

I had minus 25 c on my porch at 10 pm last winter which probably put it at minus 27 to 30 at daylight and the same year 107 F in the middle of summer.....


I will also say that 10 years ago or longer I noted that the Sun was not setting in the same location that it did when I was a kid.....then I find out that polar north is shifting toward Russia a few kilometers a year.....

The earth is definitely changing.....but the seasons will co tinue until the end of the age