Not By Works

And it ain't us

I wonder what one does with the people who work but are not saved

What do they prove?

Jesus is quoted as saying to those professing their works at judgement time "begone I never knew you". That puzzled me when I was young but later understood a Christian would proclaim their faith not works. While works doesn't save they are proof of the faith. No works no faith.

In this verse, Salvation is the gift, the Greek makes this clear.

Nice attempt to twist though, I do give you credit for that.

It is salvation that cannot be earned.

Jesus is quoted as saying to those professing their works at judgement time "begone I never knew you". That puzzled me when I was young but later understood a Christian would proclaim their faith not works. While works doesn't save they are proof of the faith. No works no faith.

Jesus is quoted as saying to those professing their works at judgement time "begone I never knew you". That puzzled me when I was young but later understood a Christian would proclaim their faith not works. While works doesn't save they are proof of the faith. No works no faith.

Fran, sometimes I sit here after reading one of your posts and I think, "no, I won't put her through the ringer because she just makes it too easy". You fancy yourself some great theologian, when in fact, you are a rank amateur. You constantly get swatted down, and come back to claim your posts weren't answered.

You make demands constantly, and when your demands are met (like just now when you asked for verses, and were provided them) you move the goal post. You make false statements about your own posting history (I'm so glad CC keeps the entire history of posts) as if we can't go and check them.

You should be embarrassed, but you don't possess the humility.

Before someone misunderstands you, I would like to add a little meaning to your statement.

If you are GENUINELY SAVED (past tense), you WILL in the future exhibit LOVE FOR GOD.

1 John 5:3 (HCSB)
3 For this is what love for God is: to keep His commands. Now His commands are not a burden,


Now, if you DO LOVE GOD with that GODLY LOVE, the only way it is not a burden, is when you LOVE somebody to the extreme. Therefore, nothing you want to do for that person WILL feel like it is a burden.

Personally, I must say she is one of the top 5 I have ever seen that vacillates worse than the waves on Bondi beach.....from salvation is not earned to it must be earned...to salvation is a free gift to it must be kept by works....a sad dogma indeed.....

Actually I was looking for the sin of unbelief in Jesus.

But amen to your post above.

Jesus is the cure for our sin.

Do not upset yourselves, your compromises with sin will just send you to hell.

Jesus is quoted as saying to those professing their works at judgement time "begone I never knew you". That puzzled me when I was young but later understood a Christian would proclaim their faith not works. While works doesn't save they are proof of the faith. No works no faith.

I wonder what one does with the people who work but are not saved

What do they prove?

It never puzzled me.....they claim a faith works blend....Galatians...that gospel has no power to save.....Jesus never knew them....this goes to the very root which is salvation....they never had it even though they claimed to Know Jesus and had done many wonderful things in his name and for his name sake.....<--most religions embrace this path and exactly why the number is plenteous "many"....

Lord, Lord have we not DONE IN YOUR NAME!!

Very judgemental indeed.

A man who gave his testimony about how Jesus transformed from drug addict and was healed and was used by God to help others.

His flesh was delivered and set free to walk with others.

People on here accuse you of being Peter Jens.

To be honest I thought that may be the case.

But given what I see you post and say I have to disagree.
Given that PJ & I have spoken off line at times I know he is not like you.

You accuse others and judge them.
You post a lot about yourself about where you were, where you are now.
You present many situations that you have found yourself in and how God has used you.

But when others do the same you judge.

"I am beginning to doubt you have" as said above.

VCO fully knows about the transformation that Jesus brings about in a person.
He has experienced it.

He probably has a T-shirt.

Drug addict, healed by Jesus and helping others.

Fran, you claimed you never said that. Once again I proved you a liar. And anyone can go back and look at your posts where you teach we stay saved by obedience. You do little but constantly lie. You, who love to preach obedience to everyone else, yet can't seem to obey God yourself.

Careful. Remember where scripture said all liars go....(Revelation 21:8)

The ones Jesus said begone to only mentioned works and never faith!!!

Actually I was looking for the sin of unbelief in Jesus.
But amen to your post above.
Jesus is the cure for our sin.