Not By Works

I'm not here to ME and take abuse from you.
Please don't post to me anymore.

I wasn't answering you, Fran. I was answering Justpassingthrough who claimed you never said that.

In that day you will say: "I will praise you, LORD. Although you were angry with me, your anger has turned away and you have comforted me.
Surely God is my salvation; I will trust and not be afraid. The LORD, the LORD himself, is my strength and my defense; he has become my salvation." Isaiah 12 vs 1 & 2

What part of "faith apart from works" don't you get?

To add anything to faith alone is a work.

HAHAH wow.....funny if not so tragically wrong..............

For the benefit of those reading along...
I will NOT engage you in this matter,
but I guarantee you that YOU ARE WRONG.

Anyone interested can check this out on their own.

It's okay Fran. I understand. You got proven wrong and now you're all angry.

Get over it.

Want me to post it straight from the CCC?

True. This is their official position. However: You can also alternatively:

1. Follow the Pope on twitter OR
2. CUT THAT CHECK.

Cut a big enough check and the Pope will let Mary know. Peter wont let you in through the pearly gates, but Mary will open the backdoor to heaven and let you in on cue when the Pope asks her nicely.

Yes...as I was discussing with a member here...
to some on this thread
LOVE
is a work...

And Jesus clearly told us LOVE is necessary:


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Mathew 23:37-39 Jesus said:
37And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’
38“This is the great and foremost commandment.
39“The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’
40“On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

Yes.
Please post how those outside the CC are not saved.

Okay!

CCC #1129 "The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation. "

Do evangelical Christians partake of the seven sacraments of the RCC? Do Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, or the followers of any other religion partake of the sacraments of the RCC?

Without confession, mass, penance, etc. (reconciliation) no one can get their sins forgiven.

Which means, no salvation.

Oh, and plus that whole thing about if one believes that faith alone justifies, they are anathema.

Which means damned.

Oy vey!. The sacraments. Catholics are big on the ritual circus. This is probably the biggest pyramid scheme in the world. Its a close contender with the prosperity preachers!

"NO ONE" - Over a 88000 posts and none have said we do not have to obey God?
I think you are not reading.

And the faith is about being like Jesus as our goal. Is this your goal, daily?
How can I be like Jesus today?

And when those who say we cannot be like our Father in heaven and our aim is not perfection,
then this actually means we are not obeying God.

So my friend, are you aiming at perfection as Paul calls us to.
Do you desire to walk in holiness and purity?

Now it is between you and God and your walk how, when and where you achieve your victories
and goals, but our calling appears clear.

And this my brother is my question to you. Are you desiring to be perfect?

If you cannot answer this, or want to avoid a clear testimony of following Jesus and walking in His
steps, then where is your claim to know and be born again?

For a preacher such as yourself, swinging the sword of faith, these simple foundations should be
simple........ but maybe things are not as they appear to be ........

It is impossible to know the untold billions of people have been led into error by the Catholic church..............even now they worship a man on this earth as God............

JOHN BEATS HIS WIFE EVERY TUESDAY......

JOHN BEATS HIS WIFE EVERY TUESDAY AT CHESS.


It's not the same.
As another member on here has also stated..
And he's right.

Post everything or nothing....

It is sad indeed. They have to jump through so many hoops, and even after death, must burn in the fires of Purgatory to "purge" them from any sins left over that they still had to pay for.

elpis: expectation, hope
Original Word: ἐλπίς, ίδος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: elpis
Phonetic Spelling: (el-pece')
Definition: expectation, hope
Usage: hope, expectation, trust, confidence.

The Pope is actually the King of the Sovereign Vatican City as well as the head of the RC Church.