Not By Works

Yeah.
You have fun putting me down!
And having the longest running thread in forum history!
Over 8 million views.
What better place to espouse my "incorrect" doctrine!!

This is for you since Cchat won't give you one...

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Sanctification is not earned...By God`s power in our lives every day , we are set apart from the things of the world , and walk with God , according to His Will , which is something a true Christian would want to do...
God sets us apart and gives us new desires to walk more holy as He is Holy , and it is a process which we fail Him every day , but thank God His grace and mercy are new every morning...xox...

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amen sis

A MAN LIKE JUDAS, cannot be BE BORN AGAIN, and STILL continue to STEAL from the LORD's from the purse that PEOPLE gave HIM to support the Ministry.

John 12:5-6 (NCV)
5 “This perfume was worth three hundred coins. Why wasn’t it sold and the money given to the poor?“
6 But Judas did not really care about the poor; he said this because he was a thief. He was the one who kept the money box, and he often stole from it.

John 12:5-6 (NIV)
5 "Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
6 He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

John 12:5-6 (CSBBible)
5 "Why wasn't this perfume sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor??"
6 He didn't say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief. He was in charge of the money-bag and would steal part of what was put in it.

John 10:1 (HCSB)
1 “I assure you: Anyone who doesn’t enter the sheep pen by the door but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber."


NO REPENTENCE FROM SIN, EQUALS NOT BEING BORN AGAIN, he was a PRETEND Christian.


YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT BORN AGAIN ACTUALLY IS, DO YOU ? ? ?

Don't take it to heart....
@dcontroversal treats everybody like this....sans scripture.
He likes to keep a level playing field.

Peter repented , his heart was broken...
Judas died with no love for our LORD ...xox...

YES...BUT under the LAW he should have been KILLED.....YET....

a. HE was SPARED and the INNOCENT son of DAVID took his PLACE <--A picture of GRACE and JESUS
b. HE was STILL punished and was CHASTENED as a CHILD and DID NOT lose his salvation
c. HE ONLY repented after CORNERED by NATHAN
d. HE was CONVICTED and wrote a full PSALM describing said CONVICTION

I love you Rosemary. You're one of the nicest persons on here.

But you're not reading sanctification correctly.
But it's OK. Just keep following Jesus and stay close to Him and obey Him to the best of your ability.

I can't argue this with you.
It's an accepted fact...it's like arguing if grass is green.

I'll just post this link again...


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Sanctification
Sanctification means “to be set apart.” Morally, to be sanctified means to be pure or holy while spiritually, to be sanctified means to be set apart for God. God set you apart from wrongdoings to be more like Him and Jesus Christ. Although a sinner is forgiven and made righteous by justification through faith in Christ, sin continues to remain but it is one thing for sin to remain in you and quite another for you to remain in sin. This is where sanctification comes in.

Sanctification begins with justification. But, while justification is God’s act of forgiving your sins and counting you righteous through faith in Jesus Christ, sanctification is the continual work of the Holy Spirit in the believer in order for you to conform to the image of Christ, who is God’s son. And, while justification is a one-time act of God, sanctification is a continual process until you are taken to be with the Lord.

Once the sinner is justified through faith in Jesus Christ, the faith must produce outward results, which is good works.(11) Actions or good works that come from having faith in Christ is what sets real faith apart from a mere profession of faith.(12) While your good works will not justify or make you right with God, good works are the evidence of your faith in Christ as well as in God.

So, how can you produce good works? The Holy Spirit is the believer’s helper as He works within you to conquer sinful desires and inclinations as well as produce fruits of right actions or righteousness.(13) This is the process of sanctification.

Summary of differences:

• Justification is a one-time act of God, which makes it complete and finished.(14) Sanctification is a continual process since a believer is not completely freed from sin until the day of resurrection.
• Justification addresses the sinner’s guilt for committing sins. Sanctification addresses sin’s power and corruption over a believer’s life.
• Justification is God’s declaration that a sinner is righteous through the work of Jesus Christ. Sanctification is God’s transformation of a believer’s whole being, that is the mind, will, behaviors, and affections through the work of the Holy Spirit.
• To be justified, your good works are immaterial. To be sanctified, your good works are a necessary evidence of your faith in Christ, which the Holy Spirit enables you to do as you continually die everyday in your sin.
• Justification gives you the privilege as well as the boldness to enter heaven. Sanctification gives you the meekness for heaven, and allows you to fully take joy in abiding there.

Understanding the differences between justification and sanctification may seem like an academic study of religion that could intimidate believers of the Christian faith, whether new or old. However, learning the distinction between the two terms could help you strengthen your faith and grow in your Christian walk.



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Did you miss the part where god spoke theough an animal

Or did you forget balaams donkey spoke, how did he speak apart fromthe spirit of God?

YEAH right pal.........deceiver.....

HE was NEVER a believer and was NEVER clean....deal with the truth and quit being a deceiver.....

HOW MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE the DRIVEL that JUDAS WAS SAVED AND LOST IT?

EVERYONE makes you a liar pal....because so far only like one or two have agreed with your drivel....if your church members knew how dishonest you really are.....

Yet you refuse to address scripture post to you

And once again you are a liar, we have adressed them

What if he had died before Nathan cornered him?

I think I better leave...

I do not put yo down....just your false view Fran............just your false view.....!!

Doesn't matter...........saved is saved and you are missing the bigger picture.................he was spared and another TOOK HIS PLACE

No, but I do think he may have had a soft spot for Dahmner. 😂 (I kill me sometimes)
I beljeve since God IS love that it is not a mere attribute of God, but the very essence of his entity, so that all that proceeds forth from him is manifested in and sustained by love. With love God hates sin.
You with me? It is the fruit and top variable in defining him and his eternal glory. Just as if we walk in that lovd it will be, hands down , the number one definer and sustainer of our "good works"

Here it is again:

Colossians 1:22-23
22yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach—
23if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.


Paul is definitely speaking to believers.
How is it encouragement though?

He says in verse 22 that Jesus has reconciled us with God and wants to present us blameless before God... But how? IF we CONTINUE in the faith --- firmly and steadfast.

And not MOVED AWAY from the hope.....

So
1. What if we don't continue?
Paul is plainly saying that if we do NOT continue...Jesus will not be able to present us blameless to God.

2. Paul is saying to not be MOVED AWAY from the hope of the gospel --- which is eternal life.

I see here two references to becoming lost...
Paul saying the word IF.....making our salvation conditional on CONTINUING in the faith.
Paul saying not to be MOVED AWAY from the hope of our faith.

It doesn't sound like encouragement...
It sounds like warnings.

Too sleepy ...
Please reply and I'll answer tomorrow.
11:30 PM here.

Okay but that's the foreshadowing...
Why are you talking about that in reference to David and his son?
Tomorrow....

i can also see it as a warning to false believers in the midst of the congregation without a genuine enduring faith

but we know already about those who go out from us

and those we are not of

how if they were of us they no doubt would have continued with us and all