Any other Early+ Christian music lovers? (e.g. Larry Norman, Glad, Petra, The Imperials, etc)

It was just a joke, no need to get all serious about it.

I find the raw/primitive stuff makes me tense. Even the couple I like I can only handle for so long. So much of it is droning and high pitched. Two things that can irritate me.
The more produced and symphonic sounds are easier for me, but still not a big preference. Though the IDEA of bm sounds great, the reality of it I just can't sonically do.

I'm not sure you got my "ugly" comment in the other thread. Or perhaps you did and just didn't respond. It was a hint though haha.

I didn't mean to sound like I was knocking your music (or to knock it). It just isn't my thing. But I'm glad it's out there for those who do prefer and love it. I'm always glad when there is a Christian alternative within a genre because then the people who enjoy it can do that while getting a message that challenges or lifts them in their faith.

I'm so glad that you went to the ER when you did. It sounds like you were right on the verge of a massive heart attack or stroke. So it's stayed controlled since then?

So sad about Winnie the Pooh! LOL He probably has a very manly name like Winston, but nicknames can be difficult. lol I do agree about his voice. It is irritating-- high and a bit whiney. LOL @ your final summation of him! LOL I think it is a good set of stories for small children, something kind and gentle but also with small adventures. Everyone needs to start somewhere. I guess that is why it holds such a special place with me, certainly not because I find it particularly exciting now. well, ok.. maybe I DO still enjoy them, though. probably mostly because of the music LOL.

and I"m glad that my niece outgrew her excitement of Screamo. Other than this conversation with you I haven't thought about it in years.

I didnt think you were bashing anything. I was just commenting on the drastic differences in taste.
Besides, I'm used to what I enjoy being bashed. It comes with the territory.

Yeah. It's been 14 years since. But that was also the start of my anxiety haha. So got one thing under control but picked up something new =P
Just have to stay on the meds.

I've never thought of it as a nickname. Even if it is I still feel the same haha.
I also determined Eyeore is a sad drunk and Tigger a meth head.
Pantsless, gender confused bears, drunks and meth heads and you think that's good for kids???
Yeah, if it was big to you as a kid it makes sense you may still find some appeal now.
I didn't watch a lot of it or read it much. And it didn't thrill me when I did see it, either haha.

99% chance she didn't listen to screamo and you're just committing metal blasphemy =P

I'm not trying to bash your music but I'm glad my niece doesn't listen to it anymore.

I struggle with anxiety too. I just keep reminding myself that as long as I'm still "struggling" with it I haven't given in so that's a good thing.

LOL @ your appraisal of Pooh and his friends!! The hundred acre woods will never look the same to me! LOL

and LOL I'm only glad my niece doesn't listen to it anymore because now I don't have to try so hard to be open and relate to her-- in that musical sense. lol Gosh, the more I say the worse I sound, huh?

Glad we're friends, at whatever level, regardless of our musical differences

How would one give in to anxiety?
For panic attacks it's actually suggested to Not fight it, but let it happen. Its pretty difficult to do though.

The hundred acre ghetto you mean. I don't know if there were more characters or not. It's all I could think of, other than the boy. And he was just the victim of Poohs pantsless endeavours, Tiggers tragic manias and Eyeores exasperating binges.
Oh. Piglet, right? With the head the size of a pinky. Hmm... I'll skip my take on him, do as to not offend anyone haha.

Wow. Yeah. Perhaps stop digging that hole deeper. You're not helping yourself hahaha.

Friendship with me costs money. As do "upgrades" in the level of friendship. The first ones free but after that you have to pay. Where have I heard that tactic before? Hmm...

It was just a joke, no need to get all serious about it.

I find the raw/primitive stuff makes me tense. Even the couple I like I can only handle for so long. So much of it is droning and high pitched. Two things that can irritate me.
The more produced and symphonic sounds are easier for me, but still not a big preference. Though the IDEA of bm sounds great, the reality of it I just can't sonically do.

I'm not sure you got my "ugly" comment in the other thread. Or perhaps you did and just didn't respond. It was a hint though haha.

Those are both REALLY good, thanks for sharing them! Tenth Ave North is a fave of mine-- hadn't heard that song before though. Listening to it again now-- the acoustic version this time. "Lord you don't need me but somehow you want me... " <3 And yes, Love Oceans, too!

And thank you for your prayers! I actually do have some crazy stuff going on -- always it seems anymore -- as well as a heartbreak that I'm trying to survive (bc sometimes that's all you CAN do is hold on to God). Nights have been especially hard for me and I have a lot of trouble sleeping- so sometimes I just can't... and then other times I totally crash. Just really having a hard time getting that regulated but again.. sometimes you just do what you can and what you have to to get through until it gets easier.

Anyway, thanks for sharing those songs. Here are a couple (ok, three! LOL ) of my favorites by them.

It's been a long time, but actually yes. Was a little concerning how well it all seemed to fit. I don't really remember anything about it now, other than that impression that it'd left me with... and that it exists.

So sorry to read of your severe headaches/migraines. Do you still have them now? I went through a time when I had a constant headache for over 2 years straight, no reprieve from it. At the very best it would settle into what most people would call a "bad headache". Thankfully I found a Dr. who was finally able to give me some help and I only have them occasionally now-- mostly when I'm overtired or sinus related.

some of what? (sorry, I'm getting to that age where my train of thought derails often... even in conversations with myself LOL)

I struggle with anxiety too. I just keep reminding myself that as long as I'm still "struggling" with it I haven't given in so that's a good thing.

LOL @ your appraisal of Pooh and his friends!! The hundred acre woods will never look the same to me! LOL

and LOL I'm only glad my niece doesn't listen to it anymore because now I don't have to try so hard to be open and relate to her-- in that musical sense. lol Gosh, the more I say the worse I sound, huh?

Glad we're friends, at whatever level, regardless of our musical differences

I agree about panic attacks, there really isn't anything to do but get through it. When that hits you just do the best that you can at the time. When I was referring to anxiety and no giving in to it, I was thinking more of the underlying anxiousness that can niggle at your spirit and make you fretful. Not exactly the same but yes very similar and definitely related. When my anxiety (which has definite underlying causes or issues) starts to creep up and get the best of me I do fight it-- I pray, HARD, and listen to music or speak scriptures or whatever it takes to remind myself of God's truth and perspective on whatever is trying to smother me. It's pretty difficult too but so important. When my circumstances get so crazy and I get to a point where I'm ready to just give up and let it all wash over me I do have to fight because in that case it's the enemy of my soul who is lying to me and smothering me and using my own fears and insecurities against me. Anyway, I'm just SO thankful that God is God and that He is there with me in those times of fear and anxiety... lifting me above and out of them if I let Him.

And, as for the pantsless Pooh. lololol Piglet is my favorite. hahaha

and lol about upgrades.. what a crock, huh?! lol

Hope you have a good day!

I'm happy you liked them!!

Wow, you must be going through a lot...I know heartbreaks take time to heal. They can be painful and it's only the Lord that can heal our hearts. I will pray you'll get the sleep you need. I'm sorry for going through this...but rely on God....he will help you.

And, I will listen to the songs you posted!! Thank youuuuu

I have bouts of anxiety too. Before I go to work I pray for God to calm my fears and boldly face the challenges each day presents.

It is hard, but I am so thankful that God is with me. I don't know how people are able to bear up to the


Certainly not "liking" that you have anxiety that you deal with, but it sounds like you do the very best possible thing to help remedy the situation!! Hang in there!!

Eeyore is the one that I relate to the best 'cause he suffers from depression too.

i was just saying, it's weird that i like it, sonically, because i get migraines too, and it would make a lot of sense to not be able to really deal with it. my migraines aren't triggered by that kind of noise, tho. the music reminds me of migraines, but it doesn't bother me. you know how listening to the blues can cheer a person up? i have that kind of relationship with bm

lol did ugly trigger your migraines? i got that it was a hint but i didn't know how to respond to that...

it's been 20-25 years since i read those books & i don't recall anything specific anymore, but i remember getting some good things out of them. i read them keeping in mind, this is a perspective from a very wise man ((Lao Tzu)) who was ignorant of Christ but not necessarily ignorant of wisdom or of goodness. i just had to translate, in my mind, how some of the things he said from behind a veil relate to what we know with the veil now removed.
in re: concern over how well it all fit, it wouldn't concern me if Milne was a daoist and purposefully incorporated some of that philosophy into his books. truth is truth, and God reveals through His creation truth about Himself to all people, whether they ever knew the gospel or not - so i can read about other religions or beliefs 'with a grain of salt' and looking for truth in them, comparing it with what i know from scripture and from the teaching Spirit in my heart.


i do still get migraines, tho thankfully no major attacks for a little over a year. the last *big* one had me alternately blacking out and puking from the pain in my bathroom floor for about 10 hours
still don't really know what triggers them, sometimes stress, dehydration or lack of sleep contribute, but i've had them even when i know for sure none of those things are factors. sometimes a *regular headache* that i can attribute some cause to turns into something much worse, and sometimes they just appear out of seemingly nowhere. i'm overly light sensitive, and that's probably the most frequent factor, but they happen in the middle of the night, too. when it does happen i want to be in the dark, tho.
i'm really glad to hear you were able to find someone to help you get them under control -- what worked, if i could ask, without prying?

I agree about panic attacks, there really isn't anything to do but get through it. When that hits you just do the best that you can at the time. When I was referring to anxiety and no giving in to it, I was thinking more of the underlying anxiousness that can niggle at your spirit and make you fretful. Not exactly the same but yes very similar and definitely related. When my anxiety (which has definite underlying causes or issues) starts to creep up and get the best of me I do fight it-- I pray, HARD, and listen to music or speak scriptures or whatever it takes to remind myself of God's truth and perspective on whatever is trying to smother me. It's pretty difficult too but so important. When my circumstances get so crazy and I get to a point where I'm ready to just give up and let it all wash over me I do have to fight because in that case it's the enemy of my soul who is lying to me and smothering me and using my own fears and insecurities against me. Anyway, I'm just SO thankful that God is God and that He is there with me in those times of fear and anxiety... lifting me above and out of them if I let Him.

And, as for the pantsless Pooh. lololol Piglet is my favorite. hahaha

and lol about upgrades.. what a crock, huh?! lol

Hope you have a good day!

Yes, when regular anxiety flares up it's good to not simply give in, but anxiety/panic attacks are somewhat different. The attacks are what they say not to fight. Not that you shouldn't do things that may help, but most people resist the feelings, but just letting the feelings happen and going with it is considered better.
Have you tried natural supplements? They're not as effective as medication, but if your anxiety isn't really bad it can help lessen it. When i feel anxiety creep up i take Gaba. Get the kind you can open the pill and it has the powder inside (blanking on the name) and put it in a bottle of water and shake it up. For lesser anxiety i take a good chug at first then sip on it every few minutes. For stronger anxiety i may drink as much as i can at first and then make another bottle to sip on. Or you can even take the pill, but they actually suggest putting it in water. Vitamin b12? or b6? I think it's 12 can boost the effects. 750 mg. You can get 90 for $15-20. I use a brand called Source Naturals. It may be worth looking into. You'll need to find a health food/vitamin store as Walmart won't carry it. But they do carry the B12 super cheap.

Piglet your favorite? Oh so telling...

Yes, this way people appreciate me more because, well, they're paying.


And unrelated to our convo, but related to the thread... here's an awesome song.

Will start with your Piglet remark..... LOL dang it!! LOL and yeah yeah, lucky ducky them (who're paying) LOL

Very bluesy Rez song... really enjoying it! wow...

And yeah about anxiety vs anxiety or even panic attacks... totally different beasts. I deal with or have dealt with all of them at some point or another.. and.. when I think I've got them behind me and I'm rolling free, I get hit again. I would venture to say that a lot more people deal with anxiety at some level in our day and age than ever have before... and that people will admit, even to themselves.

On a totally surprising different note, my youngest son and his gf are here for the holidays and took me out/treated me to a movie today. We went to the "nice" theater with the individual recliners.. and saw the new Spiderman (animated) Multiverse movie. Oh. MY. It was actually really good, if you can enjoy a movie without feeling the need to dissect it afterward. Not sure why people have to do that. Just enjoy it for what it is and then let it go. LOL ... my dad was like that too, as far as ripping movies apart. My son has been REALLY into Spiderman since he was little and then also picked up the Avengers so whenever hes home he's taken me to the movies to see (some of) them. The rest I got to watch because he told me that he was going to be home for (this past) Mother's Day and his gift would be to treat me out to see Infinity War... so to be ready I had to watch ALL of the avenger movies so I'd understand what I was seeing. :O BUT... I did it!!! Needless to say though, this totally ended better than that one. LOL shhhhhh though..

and Piglet is very cool. Hey, he gave Eeyore his scarf when he was cold. <3 Bless him!! lol

Well, Glenn is very blues/folk influenced. His solo stuff is typically really bluesy or folk/old country. Lots of acoustic and some steel guitar.

Yes, anxiety is definitely more common. For various reasons. But look at the stuff kids today deal with. I've watched shows showing schools today and it's nothing like when i was in school. They are out of control.
They say, on average, most people no longer breath deeply enough anymore as well. And deeper breathing helps with calmness. So with a country full of shallow breathers, it reduces the natural calming attributes. I could go on and on, but i'm sure you see all the BS anymore as well.

That's how anxiety works. I never think my anxiety is behind me, i view it as simply not being stirred up. Most people who develop anxiety never fully recover.

I didn't know such a thing was even out. Then again i've never been big on superheroes (pop culture blasphemy). I like it up to a point, but not enough to think much about it beyond seeing some of the movies. I think the movies are overkilled. But, that's my opinion, nothing more.
That's cool they took you out. And such a fancy theater. I don't believe i've ever been to one like that. Unless you mean they were regular movie theater seats that leaned back some, then i have.
I think i saw an Avenger movie. A few years back. It was better than I expected. My then gf's son wanted to see it, and i think she did too, so we rented it.
Did you hear a few years back about a group making a fuss about one of the Avengers billboards? It showed the bad guy face to face with one of the female Avengers who was beaten up, maybe holding her to his face, i think. And a group started saying the billboard was encouraging domestic abuse... 0.o /shakes head

So a walking, talking thumb gave it's scarf to a drunk? Shouldn't the alcohol keep Eyeore warm?
(am i ruining that show for you yet? hahaha)

Another cool vid. Notice the guy is the only one making music. Everything you hear is him doing it all at once. (jump to :25 to start it)