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Nehemiah6

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KJV1611 said:
Then how the heck is there a holy place where an abomination takes place if it’s religious Jews behind it?
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Religious Jews will be replicating the previous temples, both of which had what was known as the *holy place*. You may not call it a *holy place* but they will be following the pattern laid out in the Bible, and in their estimation it will be *the holy place*. That is all that prophecy requires.

Why do Christians try and impose their world view on non-Christians or Jews? And why do Christians refuse to simply accept Bible prophecy without imposing their ideas of what should and should not be? If Christians had a choice they would not want God to assign 3 1/2 years to Satan and the Antichrist. But our responsibility is to accept what Scripture REVEALS, not try to make it means what we wish.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Then how the heck is there a holy place where an abomination takes place if it’s religious Jews behind it?
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The religious Jews in Israel are preparing to rebuild the temple. The site has been excavated showing the Gion Springs flowing into a pool so the priests can ritually cleans themselves before sacricing the lamb on the alter there.

Second temple location - where was it built

Second Temple
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Temple

Destruction of the second temple
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/cc/48944036.html?tab=y#
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KJV1611

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Nehemiah6 said:
Religious Jews will be replicating the previous temples, both of which had what was known as the *holy place*. You may not call it a *holy place* but they will be following the pattern laid out in the Bible, and in their estimation it will be *the holy place*. That is all that prophecy requires.

Why do Christians try and impose their world view on non-Christians or Jews? And why do Christians refuse to simply accept Bible prophecy without imposing their ideas of what should and should not be? If Christians had a choice they would not want God to assign 3 1/2 years to Satan and the Antichrist. But our responsibility is to accept what Scripture REVEALS, not try to make it means what we wish.
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Who’s the abomination against? God?
 
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KJV1611 said:
Then how the heck is there a holy place where an abomination takes place if it’s religious Jews behind it?
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The religious Jews in Israel are preparing to rebuild the temple. The site has been excavated showing the Gion Springs flowing into a pool so the priests can ritually cleans themselves before sacricing the lamb on the alter there.

Second temple location - where was it built

Second Temple
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Temple

Destruction of the second temple
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/cc/48944036.html?tab=y#
 
dcontroversal

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The religious Jews in Israel are preparing to rebuild the temple. The site has been excavated showing the Gion Springs flowing into a pool so the priests can ritually cleans themselves before sacricing the lamb on the alter there.

Second temple location - where was it built

Second Temple
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Temple

Destruction of the second temple
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/cc/48944036.html?tab=y#
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It is amazing how many people reject this truth even though...

a. The priesthood has been trained
b. The instruments for sacrifice have been made
c. A red heifer bred without spot
d. The call by the religious Jews for a new temple
e. More secular Jews coming on line with the idea

etc.......

I was reading about this in 92 in the Jerusalem post......we can see the hatred for the Jews in this thread by the replacement theologians.....while being oblivious to the fact that it was a JEW that died for their sins while PRAYING for the Jews who had him crucified......He did not call them Jesus killing scumbags, but rather...FATHER forgive them for they know not what they do.....

Gonna be a price to pay for that designation given......!!!
 
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dcontroversal said:
It is amazing how many people reject this truth even though...

a. The priesthood has been trained
b. The instruments for sacrifice have been made
c. A red heifer bred without spot
d. The call by the religious Jews for a new temple
e. More secular Jews coming on line with the idea

etc.......

I was reading about this in 92 in the Jerusalem post......we can see the hatred for the Jews in this thread by the replacement theologians.....while being oblivious to the fact that it was a JEW that died for their sins while PRAYING for the Jews who had him crucified......He did not call them Jesus killing scumbags, but rather...FATHER forgive them for they know not what they do.....

Gonna be a price to pay for that designation given......!!!
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How do you replace something that never existed before. Flesh descendants of Israel ARE NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN Gods chosen people!
 
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KJV1611 said:
Then how the heck is there a holy place where an abomination takes place if it’s religious Jews behind it?
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It will be built as a temple to God just like the previous 2.
 
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How do you replace something that never existed before. Flesh descendants of Israel ARE NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN Gods chosen people!
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You are in essence calling God a liar. He chose them as his own at the time of changing the name of Jacob to Israel. He said he would chastise them but never forsake them. Look what happened to Germany when they killed 6 million Jews. Bombed into rubble.

Attack Jews at your peril!!
 
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God ordained the other 2 didn’t he?
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Depends on what you call ordained. Soloman built the first one. The second was built by the Jews returning from captivity in Babylon. Rome destroyed the second temple. Now 2000 years later the third temple is to be built.
 
dcontroversal

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You are in essence calling God a liar. He chose them as his own at the time of changing the name of Jacob to Israel. He said he would chastise them but never forsake them. Look what happened to Germany when they killed 6 million Jews. Bombed into rubble.

Attack Jews at your peril!!
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History is replete with this truth.....even the U.S. has suffered MASSIVE financial damage on numerous occasions when we have forced their hand and meddled in their affairs....but fully expect the Jew haters to reject this truth!
 
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Endoscopy said:
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Only time will tell. The temple first will have to be built!
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Rabbi Jonathan Cahn says the orig Hebrew describes the ac as of an unnatural sort. That could mean the abomination could b AI, transhuman, et/demonic or who knows. He will have powers do perform lying wonders.
 
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You are in essence calling God a liar. He chose them as his own at the time of changing the name of Jacob to Israel. He said he would chastise them but never forsake them. Look what happened to Germany when they killed 6 million Jews. Bombed into rubble.

Attack Jews at your peril!!
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I’m not attacking anybody. I’m just trying to tell you guys that flesh children of Israel are not Gods chosen people, the spiritual children of Abraham and Israel are the chosen ones and they always have been.
 
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Rom 9:6 (KJV) Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Can you guys really not understand that verse?
 
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KJV1611 said:
Then how the heck is there a holy place where an abomination takes place if it’s religious Jews behind it?
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The Holy place is the unseen place as God's hidden glory the place of faith. You could say he is our hiding place.

It will be the light of the glory of God of the new creation . The temporal time keepers no longer needed.

If we would apply it to the earthly Jerusalem as set aside as holy as the temporal, it again points to the eternal Holy Place.

Even the son of man, Jesus who informs us his of temporal flesh profits for nothing. He refused to recognized as in the Holy place . But when called good master he gave glory to God in the Holy place saying only God (not seen is good)

Good is defined in respect to God who has no form.

As a example the Catholics for one have filled that Holy place with 3500 and rising what they must call patron saints and the scripture calls workers with familiar spirits .

is a handy tool for seeing into the Holy place

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corinithians 4:18
 
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He told them to build it.
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That is humorous. Soloman yes. The second temple no. They made the necessary clothing, jeweled chest plate, items used in the sacrifices, etc. They are preparing to do the same today. All physical preperations have been ready for years. Getting authorization to start building is the only thing left! While it is a secular nation the rabbis have tremendous clout. Visited there several times for work. Multi week visits. The longest was 6 weeks. Fell in love with humus with patina and falafal. Hard to find good ones here.
 
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garee said:
The Holy place is the unseen place as God's hidden glory the place of faith. You could say he is our hiding place.

It will be the light of the glory of God of the new creation . The temporal time keepers no longer needed.

If we would apply it to the earthly Jerusalem as set aside as holy as the temporal, it again points to the eternal Holy Place.

Even the son of man, Jesus who informs us his of temporal flesh profits for nothing. He refused to recognized as in the Holy place . But when called good master he gave glory to God in the Holy place saying only God (not seen is good)

Good is defined in respect to God who has no form.

As a example the Catholics for one have filled that Holy place with 3500 and rising what they must call patron saints and the scripture calls workers with familiar spirits .

is a handy tool for seeing into the Holy place

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corinithians 4:18
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The holy place is where the Lambs blood was shed..... get it the Lambs blood.

Once a year, on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, the high priest was permitted to enter the small, windowless enclosure to burn incense and sprinkle the blood of a sacrificial animal on the mercy seat of the Ark.
 
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Endoscopy said:
The religious Jews in Israel are preparing to rebuild the temple. The site has been excavated showing the Gion Springs flowing into a pool so the priests can ritually cleans themselves before sacricing the lamb on the alter there.

Second temple location - where was it built

Second Temple
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Temple

Destruction of the second temple
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/cc/48944036.html?tab=y#
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Very interesting and compelling video! Some of these discoveries are quite rececent.
 
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