Has the law been put aside? If so, when?

You are making the mistake of believing that "the law" refers to the the 10commandments given on Mt. Sinai.

Keep reading, there are a TON more commandments.

From the SAME CHAPTER that the 10commandments are given... Exodus 20:

Exo 20:24 An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.

Obviously nobody is ever too excited to fulfill this particular eternal law.

I leave you with this:
2Cor 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

yes. if we go forward from this statement.

if there is a " but " after this statement, and you keep talking about the Law, then you are including the Law in salvation. that we will not agree on, because it is not true.

I'd say you're a lesson and an example here among the teachers. For their usage as God wills.

I would offer.The "spirit of the law" is the same as the "law of faith" .Faith referring to the work of the unseen Spirit of God .The Holy place of God reserved for Him alone. The letter of the law which we see with our eyes, scripture it kills, declaring we are guilty. The unseen spirit of the law it heals and brings us eternal life.

Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

The written law working with the spirit of the law,( the law of faith) both working together brings us the perfect or complete law spoken of in Psalms.And by the work of the Spirit of the law, us simple ones are given His understanding converting our souls .

Psalm 19:7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

The written law will disappear in the twinkling of the eye .It will not enter the promised land the new heavens and earth. Until then not one jot or tittle could be removed .

Matthew 22:37-40 (ESV)

37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
38 This is the great and first commandment.
39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

The law is put aside whenever someone puts their faith in love, truth, justice, humility, as that which is Christ's faith, His Way.
When we put our faith in Christ's Way, the written law becomes irrelevant, as our actions will fulfill the law through our new nature.

The only way you can show that God is not eternal and show that God takes back promises He makes is to say that we can go ahead and lie, steal, and murder, that God took back His instructions not to do these things.

When Paul got on his soap box (was Paul good at that) about mechanical obedience in favor of obeying through Christ and the spirit of God, Paul said the mechanical way was out. But that is not saying that we can thumb our nose at what God told us. When we obey through God's spirit we are also obeying the mechanical instructions, just in a more complete way.

Yes. The Lord fulfilled the law on the Cross.

But each person must come to Christ to receive rest in order to NOT be under the law themselves.

Romans 7:1-6
1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

I know that's the way you WANT it to be. But that isn't the way it is.

2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Do you not understand the scripture or do you just not believe them?

There are some facts that are true in our world today. Those facts do not cancel each other out, they are all absolute truth. People keep saying that if Christ forgives our sin, being that is so and we are not under sin but the grace that God uses in His forgiveness then it is perfectly OK for us to go ahead and sin. That is not so.

It is a fact that God the Father forgives through the blood of Christ when we repent and ask for it.

It is a fact that God gives this grace based on our faith, not on our acts. That does not affect our need for obedience, both facts stand.

It is a fact that obedience of law needs to be done through the spirit of God. You can hate someone and want to harm him but obey law not to murder, yet the hating is not of God.

Scripture puts it this way: We are to die to sin with Christ, then live through the spirit of God so that spirit directs our actions. I am paraphrasing this.

People get these facts all mixed up with their human reasoning, adding to what God tells us. But none of these facts cancels out another fact, they all stand.

1 Peter 2:22
He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in his mouth.



the leaders in question was a corrupt den of vipers, appointed to their positions by heron and rome. rightious leaders like Zechariah and James were either forced out or murdered by these guys.

they would probably claim they do not worship three gods. they been saying that for the last 1800 years. funny thing, they were not saying that when Jesus was teaching, i wonder why???

we are not taught that today, we are taught Jesus did all this so we didnt have to. yet this is very different than the way Jesus taught the disciples. He was pretty stern with them when they lacked faith.

it doesnt sound ridiculous to me, you want all the scriptures of Jesus telling others "follow Me"?

No "if"s, "and"s, or "but"s. as far as I am concerned.
We are saved in the here and now by faith (belief) through grace.
No obligation to the law whatsoever.

I'm guessing that is an insult on some level.
Correct me if I misunderstood you. Thanks.

That is interesting what you are saying about the law of faith.
But there is no "spirit of the law" biblically speaking.

You don't believe that we are to cast out demons and heal the sick? Why not?

people claim many things. i live in the US, i see a nation that calls itself Christian while at the same time i see more people in hospitals than ever before, 5th graders on psych drugs. why are we not laying hands on all these people?

It's not really something we should be doing of our own free will.
Even Jesus waiting for the Father to direct him in when to do it and how.
It's interesting to see all the different methods Jesus used to heal blindness.
There was no set formula for these things. The instructions from the Father had to be carefully followed.

If someone asks me to pray for them, I will not refuse them.
All we really know for sure is the 100 percent of the people that we don't pray for don't get healed.
The other thing to consider is that we are trying to regain something that has been all but lost to unbelief.
Many churches and denominations are victims of Cessationism. The belief that the miracle gifts ceased with the Apostles.

Not intended as an insult in the least.

I hope you are not offended by this, but it is because we all serve two masters, Mammon and God, as to why we cannot lay on hands and cure people. We do not have a full faith in God, if we also trust in mammon.
Peter, head of the church in Jerusalem, who when the lame beggar asked him for alms, told the lame beggar he had no gold or silver.
Peter had total faith in God, and none in mammon.

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.