The Behavior of The Saved and Condemned

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Right I'm only inflated. While you are over-inflated.
That causes uneven wear in car tires. Better get that checked.
Thanks for sharing, now I know... that is all I needed.
 
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LPT

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Right I'm only inflated. While you are over-inflated.
That causes uneven wear in car tires. Better get that checked.
And this was a spin of words. I see and hear.
 
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My tires don't hold air, they are solid one piece, no maintenance needed.
 

PennEd

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These do not answer the question.
Do you have one that says we are saved by Jesus' obedience to the law?
That's what we are looking for. Thanks.

What would I admit that I was wrong about?
Is it wrong to ask questions? Why?
I mean, you can lead a horse to water........
 

Laish

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Thanks for your post and the effort to look up and quote those scriptures.
But that's not what we are looking for.

Do you have one that says we are saved by Jesus' obedience to the law?
That's what we are looking for. Thanks.
Here are some more Sketch .
2 Corinthians 5:21
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.
Luke 1:35
The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.
1 John 3:5
You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no
John 8: 29
"And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to Him.
1 Peter 1:18-19
knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
Blessings
Bill
 

Sketch

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I mean, you can lead a horse to water........
Translation: You have nothing. Unable to substantiate the claim.

Anyways, your watering trough is empty. What's to drink?
 

Sketch

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Here are some more Sketch .
2 Corinthians 5:21
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.
Luke 1:35
The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.
1 John 3:5
You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no
John 8: 29
"And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to Him.
1 Peter 1:18-19
knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
Blessings
Bill
Thanks again for the effort.
But there is nothing there that says we are saved by Jesus' obedience to the law.

Do you believe that to be true?
If so, you seem to be struggling to support it.

I think the real issue here is understanding when the law was put aside.
We could begin there.

Do you believe that the law was put aside?
Or do we need to start there?
 

preacher4truth

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I've already given this trollish "sketchy" evidence from Scripture which is exactly Romans 5:19; "For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous."

He rejects it's clear truth, and continues to troll others on here...

Scripture is clear, the Gospel is clear, sketchy will have none of it.
 

Sketch

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preacher4truth is happy to hide behind a Thumbs Down vote.

The truth is that he (and his buddies) have no support for his claim.
Please provide the scripture that says we are saved by Jesus' obedience to the law. Thanks.

The other option would be to admit that you are in error. Your choice.
 

Sketch

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I've already given this trollish "sketchy" evidence from Scripture which is exactly Romans 5:19; "For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous."

He rejects it's clear truth, and continues to troll others on here...

Scripture is clear, the Gospel is clear, sketchy will have none of it.
That says NOTHING about the law.

You hide behind a blizzard of Thumbs Down votes and then call me trollish.
I think there is a word for that.
 

preacher4truth

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preacher4truth is happy to hide behind a Thumbs Down vote.

The truth is that he (and his buddies) have no support for his claim.
Please provide the scripture that says we are saved by Jesus' obedience to the law. Thanks.

The other option would be to admit that you are in error. Your choice.

Oh, looky here:

I've already given this trollish "sketchy" evidence from Scripture which is exactly Romans 5:19; "For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous."

He rejects it's clear truth, and continues to troll others on here...

Scripture is clear, the Gospel is clear, sketchy will have none of it.
Put that troll on ignore, why waste a day in the LORD with this puerile person?
 

Sketch

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Put that troll on ignore, why waste a day in the LORD with this puerile person?
Laish had the good character to realize and admit that his Thumbs Down votes were childish.
And he apologized for his behavior. But here you are calling me "puerile ".

Not sure why you think I am supposed to bow at your feet simply because you threw a verse at me.
You have failed miserably to prove your claim. So now you lash out with name-calling.
Snapping and snarling like a cornered animal. Get a grip.

Please provide the scripture that says we are saved by Jesus' obedience to the law. Thanks.
If you are wrong, just admit it so we can all move on.
 

gb9

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Laish had the good character to realize and admit that his Thumbs Down votes were childish.
And he apologized for his behavior. But here you are calling me "puerile ".

Not sure why you think I am supposed to bow at your feet simply because you threw a verse at me.
You have failed miserably to prove your claim. So now you lash out with name-calling.
Snapping and snarling like a cornered animal. Get a grip.

Please provide the scripture that says we are saved by Jesus' obedience to the law. Thanks.
If you are wrong, just admit it so we can all move on.
a few days ago, you were whining about being mis-treated. now you are doing what most of you guys do- belittling and ignoring any answer you do not agree with.
 

Sketch

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a few days ago, you were whining about being mis-treated. now you are doing what most of you guys do- belittling and ignoring any answer you do not agree with.
Who's whining now?

Your answer was lacking. Should I still accept it and pretend it has value?
Just to make you happy, or what? If you need a hug, consider yourself hugged.
But don't do sloppy and incomplete work and then expect approval.

You say, "most of you guys". In reference to whom? Who are "most of you guys"?
New people? Or anyone that doesn't accept the "consensus"?
Since when does the consensus determine truth?

Did the OT prophets come to approve the consensus?
Did John the Baptist come to approve the consensus?
Did Jesus come to approve the consensus?

Of what value is the consensus?
 

PennEd

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That says NOTHING about the law.

You hide behind a blizzard of Thumbs Down votes and then call me trollish.
I think there is a word for that.
Look, people can explain things to you, but unfortunately we cannot comprehend things for you.
Every one of the passages I, and others have cited, show that Jesus' perfect obedience to the Law is EXACTLY why He was a sufficient Sacrifice.

If Jesus wasn't obedient to the Law in Romans 5, what exactly was He obedient to?
 

Hevosmies

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I will help anyone in Spirit and truth
Do you want a favor or a miracle or a word from God?
Tell me what you want from God
and if I agree with you
I will help you get it.


I can make it happen for you.

Note***
if you do not need any help then this is not for you
so you do not have to tell me.


Thank you.
Hi bro

I would like to get more happy, cheery and loving as a person.

Thats my request. (ps: I opt-out of suffering if its required to achieve the above mentioned qualities)