Well, before I answer that, let me agree with you the most literal interpretation would seem to say that if we sin, we can't be forgiven. But I don't believe that. Do you? I don't think that's the proper interpretation. Especially since so much of NT Scripture is written to believers who are sinning to remind them they are free.
Eternal Security/OSAS is Bad Doctrine
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if the historical context is indeed as i mentioned in the previous post, then what we are seeing being addressed in ch. 6 may be the idea of continuing in the law, making sacrifices for guilt and sin, which would be to discard & disbelieve the grace our Lord demonstrated to us, putting Him to open shame. it would be to 'fall away' from the sure hope of our salvation and forgiveness of sin through His perfect work, exchanging it for the blood of bulls and goats as it were, which would be to effectively declare that Christ must be crucified again for sin, because His work was ineffective/insufficient.
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It clearly has nothing to do with the law.
Hebrews 6:4-6
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
Hebrews 6:4-6
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
oh? this is the book in which it is written, 'the priesthood having been changed, there is of necessity a change in the law' -- chapter 7 actually has quite a bit to do with the law.
why does the author write this to the recipients? isn't he perhaps explicitly saying so because the people he's writing to didn't think this is the case? there are no chapter nor verse distinctions in the manuscripts. the arguments being made in chapter 6 flow directly into the conclusions and continuing rhetoric of chapter 7, and follow logically from what has just been said in chapter 5: which is, that Christ is our priest. why are we talking about priesthood and its legal justification & purposes in ch.5 and ch. 7 yet ch.6 has absolutely nothing to do with either subject?
why does the author write this to the recipients? isn't he perhaps explicitly saying so because the people he's writing to didn't think this is the case? there are no chapter nor verse distinctions in the manuscripts. the arguments being made in chapter 6 flow directly into the conclusions and continuing rhetoric of chapter 7, and follow logically from what has just been said in chapter 5: which is, that Christ is our priest. why are we talking about priesthood and its legal justification & purposes in ch.5 and ch. 7 yet ch.6 has absolutely nothing to do with either subject?
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James 1:1-4
1James, a bond-servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribes who are dispersed abroad: Greetings.
2Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials,
3knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
4And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
D, James is speaking to his brethren in Christ, even though they are dispersed abroad. Some theologians believe this phrase to mean the ENTIRETY of the Jewish nation, I myself like the former better.
He is telling his Jewish brethren in Christ that they should not only be HEARERS of the word, but DOERS of the word. This totally destroys your idea that he is speaking for man's purpose and not for God's purpose.
James 1:22
I like James 2:5 also
5Listen, my beloved brethren: did not God choose the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?
Here James plainly tells his BRETHREN that they are rich in FAITH.
Then James goes into his works teaching.
Faith without works is dead.
Why? Because those who love Jesus will do what He commanded.
And what did Jesus command? More than can be listed here...
Worship the Lord your God and SERVE Him only Luke 4:8
Do the will of Him who sent me and accomplish His work John 4:34
Reap when the fields are ready for harvest John 4:36
Come and follow Me Mark 1:7
Preach Mark 1:18
Show mercy Mathew 5:7
Let your light shine before men Mathew 5:16
Go the extra mile Mathew 5:41
Give to everyone who asks you of something Luke 6:30
Love your enemies Mathew 5:44
Give to the needy Mathew 6:2,3,4
Do what I say Mathew 7:21
I have plenty more...the list can be found online.
source: http://cvi2.org/paul-timothy/pages/jesus/docs/300_commands_of_jesus.html
Jesus spoke about heaven and hell. He came here to teach us how to get to heaven...not how to get rewards, so I'm hoping you don't go there.
He came to teach salvation --- getting to heaven.,
He came to teach the Kingdom of God ----
1James, a bond-servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribes who are dispersed abroad: Greetings.
2Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials,
3knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
4And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
D, James is speaking to his brethren in Christ, even though they are dispersed abroad. Some theologians believe this phrase to mean the ENTIRETY of the Jewish nation, I myself like the former better.
He is telling his Jewish brethren in Christ that they should not only be HEARERS of the word, but DOERS of the word. This totally destroys your idea that he is speaking for man's purpose and not for God's purpose.
James 1:22
I like James 2:5 also
5Listen, my beloved brethren: did not God choose the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?
Here James plainly tells his BRETHREN that they are rich in FAITH.
Then James goes into his works teaching.
Faith without works is dead.
Why? Because those who love Jesus will do what He commanded.
And what did Jesus command? More than can be listed here...
Worship the Lord your God and SERVE Him only Luke 4:8
Do the will of Him who sent me and accomplish His work John 4:34
Reap when the fields are ready for harvest John 4:36
Come and follow Me Mark 1:7
Preach Mark 1:18
Show mercy Mathew 5:7
Let your light shine before men Mathew 5:16
Go the extra mile Mathew 5:41
Give to everyone who asks you of something Luke 6:30
Love your enemies Mathew 5:44
Give to the needy Mathew 6:2,3,4
Do what I say Mathew 7:21
I have plenty more...the list can be found online.
source: http://cvi2.org/paul-timothy/pages/jesus/docs/300_commands_of_jesus.html
Jesus spoke about heaven and hell. He came here to teach us how to get to heaven...not how to get rewards, so I'm hoping you don't go there.
He came to teach salvation --- getting to heaven.,
He came to teach the Kingdom of God ----
Is this Christian behavior guys? @dcontroversal
This is exactly what Hebrews 6 is speaking of.
This is why it says that IF the Jews returned to the sacrificial system there would be no more recourse for them since they would be trampling on the sacrifice of Jesus.
They were so used to the old system that they began to worry that they might be making a mistake by following this new idea of trusting in Jesus.
This is why it says that IF the Jews returned to the sacrificial system there would be no more recourse for them since they would be trampling on the sacrifice of Jesus.
They were so used to the old system that they began to worry that they might be making a mistake by following this new idea of trusting in Jesus.
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